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Saturday, January 5, 2008

HIdden camera in RV park restroom - what would you do?

A wireless hidden camera was discovered by a camper in the men's restroom at the Santa Fe Skies RV Park in Santa Fe, NM. The father called deputy sheriffs and the news. You can read the article and watch the KOB interview (at least for a few days). The owner had installed the camera, which was pointed at the supply cabinets under the sinks, because of problems with vandalism and theft of the supplies. After the deputies investigated, the owner removed the camera.

If you were Workamping here, how would you handle questions from other campers - both at the time and in the future?
  1. First, refer any calls from the press to the owner. Do not comment.
  2. Assure campers that the camera was immediately removed and that existing footage was erased/destroyed. (I'm assuming that was the case, but verify it before telling campers that.)
  3. If anyone does raise a fuss, call the owner or manager to deal with it.
Should you continue to work here? Some workers on the RV road have left an employer when they felt uncomfortable with their business practices. While a hidden camera woudl qualify, in this case the owner did quickly remedy the situation. Most Workampers would weigh the entire situation before making a decision.

What do you think you would do? Jaimie

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20 Comments:

  • Why not put the camera inside the supply cabinet so when someone opens the door it takes there picture.

    By Anonymous Hermit, at January 19, 2008 4:44 AM  

  • Since I know the camera has been removed. I could keep taking supply's from the restroom.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 5:06 AM  

  • If you've ever been in the dressing rooms of retail stores, you've probably been "on camera". This was apparently only aimed at supplies, not into the stalls. Seems like no big deal to me.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 6:45 AM  

  • It has always been my exoerence that those who screem the loadest are all most always the ones you should be watching. If you don't like it shower at your owen rig and use your owen restroom!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 7:01 AM  

  • I suggest that the owner install a cabinet on an exterior wall of the restroom, fill it with the necessary supplies and reinstall the camera.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 7:54 AM  

  • I'm wondering why the supply cabinet was not locked in the first place?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 8:34 AM  

  • Locks are to keep the honest people honest.
    I shouldn't be referred to as a "hidden camera" if it was mounted were you could see it.(and it was.
    Why as RV owners do we think we deserve what makes us comfortable? If the police used a camera in there car you did not know was there should you get out of the ticket?
    If there were camera's on poles around the camp, would you still camp there?
    What if you had to submit to a search before you can leave the campground....you thief's sweating yet?...
    Admit it, there is a level of cheapness among us. toilet paper,trash bags,light bulbs, each others property.
    More laws are broken in the RVs(HMMM whats that smell coming out of that RV? weed control?) then this owner not breaking the law by trying to keep your cost down.
    I suggest that you park the RV and go to another country and then after that vacation see how we have it made in America!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 11:41 AM  

  • Post a sign that video surveillance is being done. Then it is up to you whether you go in or not. I have no problem with surveillance as it is a great deterence. You enter stores these days, you are being video taped.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 12:37 PM  

  • Did the owner ever try a hasp and lock? This would have been much cheaper than the camera, especially if it had led to a lawsuit! Also, the camera inside the cabinet wouldn't have shown the culprit's face.

    By Anonymous mogul264, at January 19, 2008 6:13 PM  

  • Last I saw on tv was cameas are LEGAL in restrooms in NM.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 8:28 PM  

  • In some states as long as the camera isn't pointing into a stall or urnel, It's ok to use the camera.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 20, 2008 12:07 PM  

  • Cameras are everywhere; assume you are being watched by someone. But, so what? Don't be a thief and there won't be a problem. If you live a moral, upright life you don't need to worry. (OR the owner of the RV park could store supplies somewhere else, where he doesn't have to be worried about theft!)

    O B Wiser

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 20, 2008 7:21 PM  

  • I do not understand why anyone would object. I feel more comfortable when there is camera surveillance of a public place where adults and children will at times be alone. I think that cameras discourage antisocial or illegal behavior. I am sorry that this safety device was removed due to a misplaced sense of privacy by unknowledgeable and narrow minded people.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 21, 2008 2:48 PM  

  • If you have thieves working for you, You should keep supplies in a cabinet or room where you or a manager are located and have the employee who is cleaning ask for whatever is needed each day.Camera's in bathhouses is simply not a good move and can be thought of as immoral.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 21, 2008 4:18 PM  

  • People afraid of cameras in restrooms better not go to any Las Vegas casinos either. Hate to break it to you folks, but you are on camera almost everywhere you go these days.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 21, 2008 9:29 PM  

  • Invasion of privacy!!

    Lock and reinforce the damn cabinet.

    Move the supplies.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 22, 2008 12:34 PM  

  • How would you feel if the camera was aimed so that it could see your 12-year old daughter/granddaughter/son/grandson getting undressed? (which could happen outside of a stall) What if the owner or campground employees were watching this for their amusement? I'd feel like fixing these perverts so that they'd lose any further interest.

    New Mexico just recently passed an anti-electronic-voyeurism law, so the campground owner could be looking at hard jail time. And perverts in jail, among the general population, have a life expectancy of a few weeks.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 25, 2008 8:24 AM  

  • I can well understand some folks being uncomfortable about the idea of being scrutinised in the restroom but if CCTV prevents any sort of inapropriate behaviour of any sort it has to be a good thing.
    I am of an age where very little embarasses me and this would certainly not cause me concern,as one commentor stated if you have been to Las Vegas you have been filmed in restrooms indeed in most city clothing stores fitting rooms etc. again you have been filmed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 25, 2008 12:22 PM  

  • >>"How would you feel if the camera was aimed so that it could see your 12-year old daughter/granddaughter/son/grandson getting undressed?<<
    How would YOU feel if the camera provided the video EVIDENCE necessary to prosecute the pervert who was molesting your 12yo ?

    By Blogger Robert, at February 3, 2008 1:20 PM  

  • Restrooms which are accessible by members of the public are subject to issues other then theft, which in my opinion do certainly justify the placement of plainly seen, non covert security cameras. The two that most quickly come to mind are vandalism and security for persons using the restrooms. Cameras of course should and would never be places as to compromise public decency. However something could be done that would meet the approval of most reasonable thinking people.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at March 26, 2008 3:07 PM  

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