One expert says one thing, another expert says something different. Who do you believe?
Some authorities including well-known politicians claim with confidence that a cure for COVID-19 is on the way, and soon. Most scientists disagree. It will be years, they say.
Even if a vaccine is developed in 2020, medical experts say it will be impossible to manufacture enough of it any time soon to begin to treat the billions of people who need it.
When it comes right down to it, nobody knows when a vaccine will be developed and when it will be widely available. Everybody is just guessing. We all want it, yes, and we want it NOW, so we can get back to our normal lives. Wearing a mask everywhere is not a whole lot of fun.
So what do you think? How long will it be before you get that shot in the arm that will enable you to reclaim the life you’ve been forced to put on hold?
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Without vaccines we’d still be dealing with whooping cough, polio, measles, small pox to name a few. Which one would you choose to be infected by?
I would not choose any. Perhaps you should ask that small percentage of people who claim that vaccines do more harm than good. I’ll just bet none of them are old enough to remember any of the aforementioned diseases. Yet they don’t seem to understand that by not having their family immunized they are putting their family members at risk and giving these diseases that had been effectively wiped out, another toehold in our society.
How many times have we been told that there are no vaccines or cures for viruses? Only bacterial.
IF they come up with this one, we should all rebel about why they haven’t come up with one for the common cold or flu. Why there hasn’t been one? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ that’s why.
There are plenty of good working preventative vaccines against viruses-including the annual Flu shot most everyone should get to decrease morbidity & mortality.
Not a safe one anyway.
so will someone tell me what the difference is between yesterday when things were closed up and today when things are opened up. Not sure but I would vote nothing, just as dangerous, just as contagious a tad fewer people in the hospitals. But that’s because we have staying in and at arms length from others not because the virus is going away. This is not going away until EVERYONE has been given a vaccine that works. But lets get back to normal anyway. NEWS flash 2 girls opened up their hair salon as per allowed by their state and it turns out they both had the corona virus and contaminated at least 150 people that just could not let their hair go any further. Sorry your life is in turmoil and will likely lose your hair salon, life throws you curveballs sometimes. But wait for the lawsuits to come then get back to us. But they said today is OK to open. ………. No it’s not
Simple….stay home.
No vaccine soon. In the meantime, mass testing.
Testing proves nothing other than the exact moment the test was taken. 5 minutes later, one can become exposed. Many are asymptomatic and never get tested. Testing proves nothing. Deaths and hospitalizations prove everything. Measure that and stop wasting time on tests unless you want to test everyone in the US at the exact same time and be willing to quarantine every single one of them by the military at that exact moment. Same with taking temperatures. It means absolutely nothing when so many walk asymptotically.
As you can already see, many won’t stay home anyway. Regardless. We’re destined for herd immunity…
Herd immunity is EXACTLY what we need. It’s how we fend off ALL disease.
I understand there are more than 30 different mutated virus strains ranging from serious to much less serious. How would they ever cover so many strains in a cure? If they only focus on more serious strains, which ones? What if the strains continue to mutate after they decide on a cure? Sounds like a dog chasing their tails to me. My cure is already here, don’t stop living and hide. Life has never been deemed safe. If we trade our freedom for what we “think” is safety, we have given up. We will loose what we have come to know. We are on our way home from a 3-month long RV trip. We are 3.5 hrs from home after traveling over 6,000 miles. If I focused on the odds of getting into a traffic accident, We wouldn’t have made the trip out of fear. My safety is in Christ. If I live or die, He is with me and I with him. Nothing to loose.
Righteous dude!
Amen!
And if this was NOT a man-made virus (regardless of where it originated), out of thousands and thousands of years, why is it only NOW that we have humans getting infected? Were we all immune until just two months ago? Don’t you think that others would have had it throughout the years? What happened? All because of 1 bat? Really? People have been in caves and studying bats for years. Who actually believes that CV just started with 1 bat? They have been eating weird animals and things in China (and other locations) for generations.
Bravo!! We are living our lives and departing soon for a 2-3 month trip. Alaska was cancelled due to so much uncertainty with border closings, quarantines, etc. We will take some precautions such as avoiding big crowds and will maintain some semblance of proper distancing.
The fastest vaccine ever developed was the one used against Ebola.
And that took FIVE YEARS.
Unlike what some hacks/quacks/Charlatans on YouTube would lead you to believe, vaccines are rigorously tested and effective. You can find more (from the experts!!) here:
https://www.vaccines.gov
The whole thing has been fast tracked, with some stage trials beginning in July. If ever there was a machine in place to get us up and running again, now is that time.
Please come back to this post in late August and feel free to comment. I am thinking positive, you all should too.
I’m thinking positive (being a realist)…It’s possible that one can be created if the people creating this are not lying to us. But even with that, what will the risks be with taking yet another vaccine? Will it be 100% effective with 0 side effects? What else is in the shot we won’t know about? Will there be people that die testing the different vaccines? Will there be people the vaccine just will not work on? Think about it.
Airborne Contaminants – One way to decrease (not stop) viruses is to use HEPA filtration and UV lights in the HVAC systems. This could decrease airborne contaminants hugely. Yes, maintenance crews will need to learn to turn off the UV lights before entering HVAC systems. But first, companies will need to learn what “pro-active maintenance” plans look like. Most just leave filters int he system until the system shuts itself down. They don’t want to have to pay maintenance crews to do the job. They don’t effectively monitor the maintenance crew to make sure the work is done. They don’t train their intermittence staffs to do a job properly. That cost profits!
Surface Contaminants – The second way is to perform better surface contamination is to clean, clean, clean. And use the proper methods and products. How many times do you go to a restaurant and have to clean your own table? Disgusting. But again, companies don’t want to pay for the proper staffing to take care of surface contaminants. Once again, it gets into profits.
The more they charge, the less likely you are to show up.
Dave from WI M and a few others are spot on with their similar comments…
There has never been a vaccine for a Corona virus, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
Always a first time! Think positive.
My wife and I are both in our late 60s and have never had a vaccine for flu, shingles, nor pneumonia. I admit that I’m a skeptic. When the shingles shot first came out, our family physician said he wouldn’t recommend it. Why? Because it hadn’t been out long enough to see what side effects it had. BTW our son lives with us and tested positive for the Covid-19 antibodies but we never even got sick. I wonder how many thousands of people also have them but never got sick.
Well now that there is a test to see if you have antibodies…
Testing positive for antibodies is not reliable at this place in time. It does not mean your son was exposed. Researched after a good night’s sleep at…..
I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Vaccines essentially eradicated (until the anti crowd bought in) measles, mumps, whooping cough, and other maladies. Now, because of non herd vaccination, those statistical few are suseptable because of their “belief system”. Shingles vaccine is highly effective, and will mitigate debilitating suffereing from shingles to the masses. The rest of you, good luck, its your choice.
Doctor said I should get shingles shot. Medical Insurance at the time said co-pay is $425.00. Way to much. Well gambled and lost, got a really good dose.
Corona Virus vaccine, yeah maybe by 2020 but I have no intention of taking it! I am skeptical regarding this vaccine and would not be inclined to receive it at any cost. Heck, I even retired from my healthcare job early in 2012 just so I didn’t have to take a system required “flu” vaccine. Count me out when taking government sanctioned vaccines!!
No, a fully effective Polio type vaccine is out of the question. It could be developed in stages over a long period. Remember the original Polio Vaccine was nearly 20 years in the making. Then about 10 years later, the oral/sugar cube vaccine became available. But think in this age of modern science, Ebola, AIDS and many other such Viruses have no effective vaccine. Even the Flu Shot, each year designed to combat various strains of flu viruses, is not 100% effective.
This virus HAS to be allowed to go through Herd Immunity, Stay-at-Home orders only prolong, DO NOT STOP the virus. Of those who do get the Coronavirus, 98% will survive. Of course those most susceptible such as the elderly and those with significant pre-existing conditions are at risk and may need to stay home or use very strict Social distancing safety recommendations.
It is important to look at those successful countries and US States that have had the best results, NONE of them are Stay-at-Home Countries or States. Think, it will not just go away and the sooner the Herd Immunity can go into reality, the sooner we will get through this sad, pandemic.
That was then, this is now. The wuhan virus was sequenced in January 2020. What do you think the science was back when polio was being worked on. Ill venture to guess, stone age like.
New Zealand has been the most effective at handling this virus. They do not fit into your criteria at all.
Should there be a vaccine, I believe that there will be a shortage, much like the flu vaccine and the shingles vaccine. This past year, my husband and I searched and searched for both and were placed on waiting lists for both. When the call came that vaccine was available we were told you better come in today or it will be gone! I also think that there will be a priority list as to who will receive the vaccine.
From what I am hearing from various Dr friends, any vaccine is expected to be less effective thatn the flu vaccine. At this time, it appears as though COVID-19 can mutate fast enough to out pace our vaccine abilities.
If one happens to be ready in 2020 and approved by this Administration, no way I would take it. It ‘s rather obvious why the President wants one by the end of the year. It would be shortcuts all the way.
Yes, I think they will pump out vaccines this year because they’ve already said the need warrants bypassing safety trials. I WILL NOT be taking it.
Please cite your source that ALL safety trials are eliminated. Who is “they’ve” and what are “they” basing this on? You certainly won’t have to take it. I respect that. But I need to understand who “they” are.
Came here for the antivaxxer trolling. Not disappointed at all.
As for me, I think there will be a vaccine. But not this year. It takes longer than that to get through the trials, approvals, manufacturing and distribution processes. Normally, that takes a decade or more. We can speed parts of it up, but by the end of the year? No.
More important than a vaccine is a reliable medical treatment for those with the virus.
Being able to confidently survive the infection will reduce if not eliminate the worst concerns, as well as remove the immediate need for a vaccine.
A good article re: vaccines likely to be only partially effective–similar to the flu vaccine. Summary follows:
“In the public imagination, vaccines are often seen effectively as cure-alls, like inoculations against measles.
Rather than those vaccines, however, the Covid-19 vaccines in development may be more like those that protect against influenza — reducing the risk of contracting the disease, and of experiencing severe symptoms should infection occur, a number of experts told STAT.
“We all recognize that flu vaccine, in a year when it’s efficacious, you have what, 50% protection? And in a year when it’s poor you have 30% or less than that — and still we use that,” said Marie-Paule Kieny, who is chairing a committee advising the French government on vaccines to prevent Covid-19.”
https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/22/the-world-needs-covid-19-vaccines-it-may-also-be-overestimating-their-power/
Excellent article. Perfect example.
I have participated as a test subject in a number of “drug trials” over the past dozen years. None were less than a year long except one that was stopped early because of reported negative results that were discovered that caused some subjects to get sick. These studies were all at 3rd phase volume testing level with many thousands of people participating. Each of the drugs had been under study for two years or more. I have followed the results and only one drug actually made it to market. Many did not, because they did not deliver the desired results. This is how science really works. You can’t just wish for a good outcome.
At 72, with acute kidney disease, heart and thyroid issues, the great team of doctors I have have been successful in maintaining my health for more 30 years.
I trust this group of experts to advise me on whether take a vaccine protecting me from Covid 19.
I do know my life is restricted and my RV hasn’t moved for the past two months.
With this said, it’s me that will decide whether or not to take it or not!!