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News for RVers #925, Sunday edition

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Sunday, December 8, 2019
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Poll results: “Which trailers would you advise others not to buy?”

The website conducted a survey of 100,000 Facebook group users asking members what brands of travel trailers they would decidedly advise NOT buying. Some 3,000 people responded. Here’s the list (in order of most-to-least) of not recommended travel trailer brands.

Tesla truck: Useful to RVers? Or a waste of money?

There’s a whole lot of hoopla surrounding Tesla’s electric “truck.” In principle, it sounds like a great idea. Who among us wouldn’t like to have the seemingly lower operating costs of an electric vehicle? Too, most folks want to do their bit to help earth, and a truly zero-emissions vehicle goes a long way in that direction. And it seems, for some, the thing just looks cool. But will it do the job that we as RVers need? Principally, will it really tow a trailer? Will it literally go the distance to the campground and back? Here is what we know.

Did you miss yesterday’s RV Travel?

If so, stories you missed: Why you can’t ever find a space at some RV parks • Fake! Fake! The congressman and the sex offender. • This RV can store enough water to last years! (fake?) • RV Shrink: If the RV’s broke, switch it • … and so much more!

Read it here | Back issues

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Comprehensive list of RV-related recalls for November

The list of latest recalls on RVs and other vehicles and/or products of interest to RVers has been released by the U.S. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. The list includes models from Airstream, Forest River (many), Jayco, Keystone, Thor and others — plus other vehicles and tires commonly used by RVers. Is your RV or other vehicle on the list? Find out here.

And recalls issued in the past week . . .

Ford recalls 86,296 model F-250, F-350 and F-450 trucks.

Where to camp for free or less than $20Thick guidebook from Don Wright lists thousands of locations.

That was the RV week that was

December 1-7, 2019

How will the price of RV fuel go – up or down? There’s a distinct possibility that it could go down, as an oversupply of oil is plaguing members of the OPEC cartel. U.S. Bakken oil production was up this year and will continue to grow, putting pressure on the Middle Eastern oil producers. Even there, OPEC member Iraq has ignored its agreement to keep production down and has been pumping out more than its allowed amount. Oil speculators think OPEC will move to cut supplies further to try and prop up oil prices, but non-OPEC neighbor, Russia, is ready to fill in any loss of supply. May you live in interesting times.

A motorhome traveling south down California’s Cajon Pass came to grief after the rig’s brakes failed and it crashed into a parking lot near I-15 and Highway 138 last Sunday. Just after 1:00 p.m., the Class A rig smashed into steel barricades at the Shell station, and three passengers were ejected from the motorhome. Two victims were airlifted to hospitals, another was sent by ground ambulance; at least two are listed as critical. The barricades had been installed after another crash killed two in 2014. The family is heartbroken, also, because two other passengers, a boxer and a “fox-like looking” dog, wandered away from the accident scene.

Was it a power play in Waterloo? An unidentified woman living in a motorhome in Waterloo, Oregon, got an unexpected and unwelcome visit on November 24. Police say Whitney Rene Montgomery (33) claims to have been paying her father’s electric bill, and was unhappy to learn that the RVer was hooked up to the house. So Montgomery showed up and gave the RVer an ultimatum: Get your RV out of here in five minutes. When the rig didn’t move in five minutes, Montgomery allegedly took an axe after the rig’s windows, progressively bashing them out. The terrified occupant locked herself in, but then a man jumped into the rig through one of the broken windows and forced the victim outside, face-to-face with the ax-wielding hothead. Montgomery then allegedly whacked the victim on the face with the axe. Fortunately, she used the blunt edge of the tool, but the damage was real, nonetheless. Montgomery is charged with second-degree assault, first-degree criminal mischief, and menacing.

Do you drive a white van? Or a white van conversion? If you’ve been getting any unusual stares, it could be because of a viral postings on Facebook that men driving white vans are kidnapping young women across the United States for sex trafficking and to sell their body parts. While there is no evidence to suggest this is happening, the Facebook posts have created a domino effect that led to the mayor of Baltimore, Maryland, issuing a warning based on the unsubstantiated claims. A spokesperson for the Baltimore Police Department told CNN Business on Tuesday that while the department is aware of posts on social media it had not received “any reports of actual incidents.”

Airstream wants to sell rigs to younger buyers. Problem is, a lot of them want to tow a trailer with something like an SUV – and the current crop of Airstreams just aren’t light enough for most. An article on shows how the company has downsized some of its units to make them smaller and lighter, and they end up looking like, well, a smaller, lighter Airstream. Now the company is thinking about the three things that make the line iconic: the silver bullet silhouette, the aluminum siding, and the rivets that hold the whole works together. Now word is the company is thinking about redesigning without one, maybe even two, of those parts of the Airstream trinity. Stay tuned.

A little bit of rain can make a big difference in Arizona. Three folks camped out in an RV near Camp Verde last weekend found that out when they woke up to find their travel trailer in five feet of water, where a few hours earlier it had been a dry pasture. The trio had parked their rig on Thanksgiving night, planning on hunting the following day. But nature interfered, and a water rescue team was called out to pull the unfortunates to safety. Authorities say it was a smart move – calling 911 – rather than trying and get out of the rig on their own.

As the thermometer drops, so goes the sale of used RVs at auction. Proof of the statement are the statistics coming from market watcher Black Book. November auction prices of used motorhomes dropped more than 4 percent from October, landing at $46,293. Towable prices dropped 4.5 percent, to $15,188. Compared to November 2018 figures, it proved a mixed bag. Motorhomes sold at $43,729, a definite loss over the year, but towables are looking better, compared to the $13,052 they fetched in 2018. The average age of sold rigs: motorized, seven years old, and towables, eight.

Photo: Kennewick Police

If you’re hungry, may we suggest you park your RV and then go into the restaurant and not drive the RV through – especially the wrong way – as a 56-year-old woman did last week at a Taco Bell in Kennewick, Washington. The driver was apparently very hungry, but we don’t know if she got her Nachos BellGrande® before she was arrested for driving under the influence.

And the story goes on in Surrey, British Columbia, where we reported earlier that hundreds of tenants at the Peace Arch RV Park got eviction notices, purportedly because local officials were cracking down on zoning violations. The zoning limits how long someone may occupy an RV in a park, and park owners said their long-term residents were in violation and had to go. Now the city has pushed back, acknowledging the zoning rule but adding, “We have not approached the property owner or his tenants regarding the use of the RV park, nor have we cited the property owner or his tenants for being in contravention of the bylaw,” Rob Costanzo, general manager of corporate services, said in a written statement to The city says it has no plans to act on the apparent zoning violation. Now some – but not all – of those who’d received eviction notices have gotten a letter revoking the eviction.

Last week we mentioned that South Dakota’s Badlands National Park was taking on a new herd of bison. It’s probably a coincidence, but if folks interested in seeing those “buffs” up-close decide to visit the park, they’ll be asked to pay a bigger premium for the privilege. As of January 2, 2020, entrance fees will increase to $30 per vehicle, $25 per motorcycle, and $15 per individual (on the hoof). An annual pass will set you back $55.

If you’re a mountain-biking fan, you may have a new venue near the Colorado National Monument. Land conservation group Colorado West Land Trust has come into control of a 14-acre chunk of land in Grand Junction, Colorado, very near the monument. Right now a network of informal hiking trails is on the property, but the trust wants to formalize a bike trail that would connect the so-called Lunch Loops to the national monument. photo

A spectacular rear-end crash on Interstate 8 near El Centro, California, has left a car driver dead and three RV occupants sent to hospital. Last Sunday (December 1) a Cadillac CTS smashed into the rear-end of a Gulf Stream Class A motorhome. Both the car and the motorhome then burst into flames, leaving only the lower part of the motorhome recognizable. The Cadillac driver, reportedly a woman from Glendale, Arizona, died on the scene of blunt force trauma. No names have been released, although the motorhome occupants were all listed as being from Peoria, Arizona.

RVs are different than stick-built homes, so says the Travis County, Texas, county commissioners court. A developer wanting to build a 35-site RV park in the county got an exemption for the development, when county employees took a close look at those differences. They decided that the kind of water supply needed for permanent residences wasn’t so critical as, “If there was a problem with water, they literally can drive away and get water.” What else? A housing division with more than 30 residences normally requires at least two access roads. Not so for RVs: As long as there are less than 100 RVs, only one access point is needed. A four-to-one favorable vote moved the RV park a step closer to building.

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Rainstorms brought flooding to the popular, but hard to get to, Havasupai Falls in Arizona’s Grand Canyon. The hike, mule-in, or helicopter campground on the Havasupai Reservation was hit hard when rains flooded the campground last weekend. Floodwaters turned the normally turquoise falls dark brown, and caught nearly 170 campers off-guard in the middle of the night. Tribal representatives urged campers on to higher ground, but discouraged any from hiking out due to icy trail conditions. The campground will be closed until February.

If you snooze, you lose, is certainly the case for a 34-year-old man in Norco, California. Daniel Jacob Jacquemain was found sleeping in a motorhome on a Norco street and ended up in jail. It didn’t help that the motorhome had been reported stolen days earlier from nearby Corona, California. Rather than testing the mattresses at the local lockup, Jacquemain bailed out on a $30,000 bond, evidently on charges of theft of the motorhome. The motorhome has gone home to its owner.

A Centre County, Pennsylvania, RV rental firm is on the defensive end of a $100,000 lawsuit filed by Penn State University. The university says has unlawfully used several of its trademarks, including PSU and the Nittany Lion logo, to try and associate itself with the university to hawk its rental services. “By selecting the domain for registration, which is so close in appearance to Penn State’s own athletics program domain and PSU mark, defendant’s purpose was to divert web traffic from the hundreds of thousands of people seeking accommodations for traveling to Penn State’s athletic events for defendant’s financial gain,” says a university attorney. The university wants an order for the RV rental firm to stop using their logos and trademarks, and to fork over $100,000 in damages. No comment from the RV agency; but Nittany Lion is now nowhere to be seen on their website.

A historic swimming hole in Travis County, Texas, has become the focal point for a fight over a proposed 80-site RV park. Developers want to build Bentree RV Resort less than a mile from Hamilton Pool Preserve, a swimming hole filled by a 50-foot waterfall that shoots out of a limestone cliff. Opponents say the process of approval is running ahead of concerns for the pool, citing the danger of septic system contamination and chemical runoff. The local Commissioner’s Court is toying with the idea of exempting the resort from platting requirements, which opponents object to. They also say they fear problems should an evacuation of local residents be called for, fearing the additional evacuation traffic associated with the RV park would overrun the capacity of the two-lane highways in the area. Commissioners will take up the matter December 10. photo

A “solution” tried in San Francisco to keep away homeless RVers is now evidently being tried across the bay – in Oakland, California. Along a couple of blocks of Poplar Street in the city’s west end, someone has used heavy equipment to lay down large logs on the street next to the curb. This effectively prevents RVs from parking – and anyone else, including homeowners. Nobody will ‘fess up to who did it – both the city and local businesses disavow the action. In San Francisco, residents put out large boulders to prevent parking, and eventually the city hauled them away. In any event, says one homeless man, “There aren’t enough logs where they can block off everything,” according to

Not all SmartBank employees are smart – at least, not in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. Connie Sue Clabo, a former bank vice president, told police the bank didn’t pay her enough. What’s to do? Embezzle $600,000, say court records, partly by “paying off” her mortgage carried with the bank, and issuing herself cashiers’ checks to the tune of more than $300,000. Apparently Clabo also enjoyed the RV lifestyle, spending $27,000 of the bank’s funds on a travel trailer. She’s copped a plea-agreement with the district attorney, but still has to deal with the IRS – seems she also conveniently forgot to mention her additional “bank bonus” when reporting to Uncle Sam’s collection agency.

Say goodbye to goop!
Have you ever seen the sediment that collects in your water heater? You probably don’t want to. Camco’s water tank rinser is an easy-to-use gadget that is a must-have for any RVer. The tank rinser will get out all the yucky sediment that’s been sitting at the bottom of your water heater and, most importantly, will extend the life of it too. Read the many positive reviews, and get one for yourself here.

Brolin McConnell, 33, pleaded guilty to first-degree kidnapping and felony menacing on Tuesday in Colorado’s Pitkin County District Court following a 2016 incident in which he held three strangers at gunpoint at a campsite off of Independence Pass near Aspen. Originally, McConnell pleaded not guilty, though this was changed in 2017 to include “by reason of insanity” in the not-guilty plea. During the 2016 incident, McConnell held the three men at gunpoint at Lincoln Creek Campground. He discharged his weapon at flying birds, allegedly claiming they were drones. Eventually two of the men were able to run away. The third hostage had a leg injury that prevented him from escaping quickly. McConnell fired his gun near this man before he was able to escape. According to the Denver Post, this is when officers were able to take McConnell into custody.

Neighborhood residents and business owners whose properties abut Pacific Coast Highway in and near Malibu, California, are at their wit’s end as the homeless people and other citizens literally set up camp along the Pacific Coast Highway, worrying residents about the danger of wildfires, lack of sanitation, and possible criminal activity as the seemingly permanent assemblage of RVs and tents grows. There is no official solid data to profile the people choosing to park along the PCH, but eyewitnesses report they observe people who seem to be homeless, others who seem to suffer from mental illness, some who want to camp short-term and not pay for a campsite — or who are unable to pay such costs — and a sprinkling of surfers. —Source: Malibu Magazine

Easily clean those stubborn bugs off your RVsponge91FkFZCzPZL__SL1500_
The Microfiber Mesh Bug and Tar Sponge has millions of tiny fibers embedded in the microfiber cloth that grabs and holds the dust and dirt. It is so effective it even cleans without chemicals, saving both time and money. The secret of this sponge lies in its unique, double-layer microfiber mesh. Older nylon bug sponges can harm your clear coat, but this one is completely paint safe. Learn more or order.

Reader poll

When RVing, what degree of “roughing it” are you usually experiencing? Click here.

Yesterday’s poll: “How much do you pay to store your RV when not using it?” Do you think more RVers pay to store their RV or pay nothing at all? Find out.

This poll question drew a lot of response: “Do you believe the activities of humans are contributing to global warming?” See how more than 2,700 readers responded (with more than 120 comments).

News briefs

Police in Lenexa, Kansas, are asking for information about an RV in connection with a stolen vehicle case. Investigators said the RV was seen following a stolen car in numerous locations immediately after the theft on December 6. Anyone with information is asked to call police at 913-825-8120.

Back in March, General Motors shut down its Lordstown, Ohio, assembly plant where the Chevy Cruze compacts were built, putting 1,100 workers out of a job. Now the company says it will open an electric vehicle battery plant in Lordstown, and some of the product will be used to power their electric pickup trucks slated for release in 2021. It will mean 1,100 new jobs in the plant.

Have you seen Bix the Buffalo? He’s gone missing from Bixler Lake Campground in Kendallville, Indiana. The fiberglass statue, which was located at the East Side of Bixler Lake near the softball field parking lost, was stolen sometime last week. He’s worth about $3,500. If you’ve seen him, call the Kendallville Police at 260-347-0654.

The fungus that causes the deadly white-nose syndrome in bats has been found on a bat at Arizona’s Grand Canyon National Park. Pseudogymnoascus destructans (“Pd”) was found on a single fringed myotis bat in April; repeat testing in June found no evidence of Pd. The hit is considered “inconclusive” but suggests that bat disease may have arrived at the park.

Campground chatter

Developments at RV parks and campgrounds across the USA

Janet Groene reports each week on developments at RV parks and campgrounds across the USA and Canada. There’s a lot of good information here that you can use to plan your travels. Read the current installment of “Campground Chatter” here.

Glow-in-the-dark tape is brilliant for help at night
RV Travel Newsletter Issue 906One of our readers recommended glow-in-the-dark tape to stick on things to see at night. We love this idea! Use this tape on light switches and slideout switches so they’re easy to see in the dark. The tape also works great to help find your door and lock at night, as well as your RV steps. Learn more or order here.

Latest fuel prices

Here are the latest U.S. average prices per gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel as of December 2, 2019:
Regular unleaded gasoline: $2.58 [Calif.: $3.67]
Change from week before: No change; Change from year before: Up 12 cents.
Diesel: $3.07 [Calif.: $3.96]
Change from week before: No change; Change from year before: Down 14 cents.

Protect your RV “pigtail”
RV Travel Newsletter Issue 880That 7-way connector on your travel trailer or fifth wheel is a critical component. When not plugged into your tow rig, the thing is susceptible to the onslaught of dirt, rain and even bugs. Here’s a plug cover that slips right over your precious plug and keeps out the crud. One user says, “This works perfectly to keep the plug on my RV clear. I remove it when not in use and place it in my ‘RV emergency tool kit.’ This way, it’s not knocked around when driving.” Learn more or order.

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Upcoming RV shows

Fall Clean Sweep RV Show, Dec. 6-8, Ft. Myers, FL
South Texas RV Supersale, Jan. 2-5, 2020, San Antonio, TX
Tarrant County RV Show, Jan. 2-5, Fort Worth, TX
Austin Boat & Travel Trailer Show, Jan. 3-5, Austin, TX
South Carolina RV & Camping Show – Greenville, Jan. 3-5, Greenville, SC
(“The calm before the storm.“)

See the complete list of upcoming RV shows.

Clean your microwave with no hassle! 
RV Travel Newsletter Issue 910Is it hard to scrub off all that crusty gunk in your microwave? Admit it, when was the last time you cleaned it? Angry Mama, the miracle microwave cleaner, is here to do the dirty job for you! Add water and vinegar (maybe some lemon too) to this feisty lady and watch her steam away the mess. Within minutes your microwave will be sparkling! Click the image to watch video. Be right back, we’re buying one here!

Free and bargain camping


Click here to view this week’s free and bargain camping spots.

Other resources:
Walmarts that do not allow overnight RV stays.
Walmart Directory: Best printed directory of Walmart locations.
Guide to Free Campgrounds: Best-selling directory, year after year.

Overnight RV Parking, with more than 14,000 locations listed, is the largest and best resource for locating free and inexpensive places to spend a night in an RV. For membership information and a demo of the site, click here. A modest membership fee required, but try the free demo. Watch a video about

Noteworthy articles from other sources

How to protect against dog attacks while walking.
People arm themselves as tensions rise over homeless RVs at Washington state’s capitol.
ACLU: Trend of RV bans in Peninsula disturbing.
Tiny travel trailer expands to double its size in 60 seconds.

Essential items for day to day living
Toothpaste • Laundry soap • Hand soap  • Shampoo • Razor blades • Pet food • Pain reliever pills • Pain creams  • Low dose aspirin • Antacid relief • Lipstick • Reading glasses • Breakfast cereal • Coffee • Tea • Bottled water • Soft drinks

RV Travel staff


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1 year ago

Does anyone know of any shows in Las Vegas?

For some reason, the show sponsors don’t seem to know we’re here.

1 year ago

Upcoming RV Shows – TEXAS

January 2-5, 2020: South Texas RV Supersale
at Joe Freeman Coliseum, 3201 East Houston St, San Antonio TX 78219

January 2-5, 2020: Tarrant County RV Show
at the Fort Worth Convention Center, 1201 Houston St, Fort Worth TX 76102

January 3-5, 2020: Austin Boat and Travel Trailer Show
at the Austin Convention Center, 500 East Cesar Chavez St, Austin TX 78701

January 3-12, 2020: Houston International Boat, Sport and Travel Show
at NRG Center, 1 NRG Park, Houston TX 77054

TBA: January 2020: All Valley RV and Outdoor Show
at the Rio Grande Valley Livestock Show, 1000 North Texas, Mercedes TX 78570

January 24-26, 2020: East Texas Boat and RV Show
at the Maude Cobb Activity Center, 100 Grand Blvd, Longview TX 75604

February 12-16, 2020: Houston RV Show
at NRG Center, 1 NRG Park, Houston TX 77054

February 7-9, 2020: Midessa Boat, RV, Sport and Gun Show
at Ector County Coliseum, 4201 North Andrews Hwy, Odessa TX 79764

TBA February 2020: Coastal Bend Boat and RV Expo
at Borchard Regional Fairgrounds, 1213 Terry Shamsie Blvd, Robstown TX 78380

February 13-16, 2020: Austin RV Expo
at the Austin Convention Center, 500 East Cesar Chavez St, Austin TX 78701

February 20-23, 2020: Dallas RV Supersale
at Dallas Market Hall, 2200 North Stemmons Frwy, Dallas TX 75207

TBA March 2020: South 40 Outdoor Expo
at Extraco Events Center, 4601 Bosque Boulevard, Waco TX 76710

TBA September 2020: Southwest RV Supershow
at Dallas Market Hall, 2200 North Stemmons Frwy, Dallas TX 75207

TBA September 2020: Austin RV Super Sale
at Dell Diamond, 3400 East Palm Valley, Round Rock TX 78665

1 year ago
Reply to  RV Staff

Don’t miss with Texas 😀

1 year ago
Reply to  RV Staff

Any in Nevada? They don’t seem to get advertised well, if they’re here.

Colleen P
1 year ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

Tampa Florida January 2020

1 year ago

I remember back in the summer of 2011 when we crossed the US to Montana and got a campsite at a state park in South Dakota near DeSmet in May. We used GPS to get to the site at the end of June. When we turned down this one road, dirt there was water on both sides of the road, 12 feet from the dirt road but let me tell you, in the dark no markers it got more and challenging. We were able to turn around and head into town to find a place to camp. Were told the park was washed out and no one contacted us. They never called us. I was not happy about that. There is a place near the hospital where there are places to over nite camp. You can hook up for electrical but thats about it. A lot went wrong that nite but we were glad we did not need 911 to get us out of that predicament. Needless to say SD state park got an ear full from me when we got home.

Gaye Tesar
1 year ago

The following incident is sad in so many ways, and one issue is the fact this manufacturer advertises this product for indoor use, with a built in low oxygen sensor that will shut the unit off if carbon monoxide levels get too high. .

Man, dog die from carbon monoxide poisoning while cooking in van, coroner says – KVEW

KENNEWICK, Wash. — A 61-year-old man and his dog were found dead in a van from apparent carbon monoxide poisoning on Thursday, according to Benton County Coroner Bill Leach.

David Dana had been living in van with his yellow Labrador retriever in a friend’s driveway on the 6400 block of W. First Ave.
He was using a Mr. Heater brand heater, which was hooked up to a five-gallon propane tank, to cook a roast on a skillet inside his van right before his death Thursday morning, Leach said, adding that carbon monoxide is an odorless gas.

He said the van did not have enough ventilation for the type of heater he was using.

Dana’s friend found him dead in the van around 2:20 p.m. The friend had to smash out the van’s windows because the doors were locked.

Leach is reminding the public to know how devices are supposed to be used and whether they are okay to be used indoors.

Russ De Maris (@russ)
1 year ago
Reply to  Gaye Tesar

Gaye: There are some issues with the reporting here; which heater was used appears to be a question, as another source says a “parabolic” heater was in use–which is certainly not a Mr. Heater. We’ll be chasing down the facts and letting readers know what we find shortly.
Russ and Tiña De Maris,

1 year ago

For the millionth time in my life I have to ask the question, why do the homeless live in such squalor? I was once homeless myself, living in a 1953 Chevy, sleeping on the backseat, boondocking in a shopping complex parking lot across the roadway from the automotive dealership I eventually spent a lifetime working at. I had no running water, no facilities of any kind, BUT I kept myself clean, free of drugs and alcohol, brushed my teeth, kept the car from overflowing with junk, I left no mess behind, nor inside my home (the car) and so forth.

What is it about homelessness 2019 version that makes people live and exist the way they do despite all the agencies out to “end homelessness” which did not exist when I was without a permanent home. Maybe too much socialism? – just a thought!

1 year ago
Reply to  RV Staff

Diane. Yes,Yes, Yes to your question. I live in a small city Lethbridge Alberta with the highest drug usage per capita in the world (over 700 “clients” (drug addicts) per day use our SCS -safe consumption site) Bern, Switzerland is second. And it is all paid for by the taxpayer here, every penny – er nickel we banned pennies long ago) Look it up.
Drug usage and tolerance is surreal, and it is spreading fast.

The politics of all it entails which is extremely complex for the “left out” will affect everyone paying the bills monetarily and socially sooner or later unless we choose a rock large enough to hide our head under, and take the bank account with us!

Not pretty but it don’t go away ignoring it! Witness the story referenced.

1 year ago
Reply to  RV Staff

Early 60’s hmm, me too. It sure is a small world Diane.
Despite the horrible social situation we find ourselves in (which many many folks are working day and night to remediate) we have in this city one of Canada’s finest Universities. It’s a grand facility I live mere blocks from spending a fair bit of time poking around in.
It is indeed a small world which I still find magic in the wonder that the sun rises everyday & shines on us – without fail.

1 year ago
Reply to  Alvin

Socialism? No, they are left out by the current version of capitalism that favors the wealthy at the expense of the common man.

1 year ago
Reply to  Perry

You can delete my previous comment, but in fairness, you should moderate Alvin’s “Maybe too much Socialism?” Politics has no place on this blog!

1 year ago
Reply to  Perry

Sorry Perry I apologize. I’m Canadian and Canadians apologize for everything someone else finds offensive. In the future I’ll find and use the synonym for the S word, so we can keep politics palatable for you. We can’t keep it out, Again Sorry. Peace!

Colleen P
1 year ago
Reply to  Perry

We haven’t had capitalism in the US for over 100 years. No one alive today has actually seen true capitalism. Today all you have is greed on both sides of the aisle.

1 year ago

RE: Tesla trucks and “helping the earth by lower emissions.”

How do you think the electricity needed to charge the Tesla’s batteries is generated? In these parts is a coal fired power plant. It’s a myth and fraud that electric cars claim to be emission free.

1 year ago
Reply to  Willie

Nothing is emission free. Cows and most people I know are not emission free.

No source of electricity is without some form of “pollution”. And we ALL use electricity for our own reasons. Let those that use NO form of electricity cast the first stone (One would have to live in the desert under a rock). Anything you buy is made with electricity (including food sources). The question becomes how can we store the energy without being wasted.

If you use solar panels, how many chemicals do you think it takes to produce those panels and where do they end up when they are finished? Batteries are used to store that unused energy.

The same with wind. Where did all that steel and copper come from to build, transport and install these massive wind units?

As of 12/2017 (, we find the following producing energy at 1MW or higher:

Nuclear – 60 Plants – 20%
Coal – ~400 Plants – 30%
Natural Gas – 1,793 Plants – 34%
Oil – 1,076 Plants – 1%
Hydro – 1,444 Plants – 7%
Solar – 1,721 Plants – 1%
Wind – 999 Plants – 6%
Other – 1%

Here is another website that supports the number of power plants in the US and their types:

Having worked at several electrical generation sites, that generator never stops unless the plant is in an outage period. The fuel usage can change on demand, but not the electricity voltage output.

Different plants have different purposes. Can one imagine installing solar in northern Michigan? Great maybe in the summer (although not optimum output), but in the winter, there is going to be a problem with snow.

And for those that think we can get away from coal…What happens if something disrupts the natural gas or oil supply? Terrorist actions, OPEC supply cuts, Domestic plant fires. Anything can disrupt this supply chain.

Hydro…What do you do when there are seasons of drought?

Wind…What if the wind is not blowing?

Solar…What do you do when it rains, snows, dust storms, clouds, etc?

Nuclear…Most feared because of perception and lack of understanding. Also because our Government has not lived up to it’s commitments to build spent fuel storage facilities anywhere. What if enough environmental conscience persons are able to shut this door?

No one source will do it all. If that coal is taken away from your area, be prepared to get a generator. But, remember, this uses gasoline, diesel or LP to run. Think about the emissions coming from that source.

If a comparison is made between the amount of pollution is produced from recharging a battery compared to the amount of pollution produced to run a combustion engine, there is likely no comparison.

And when comparing the number of parts used in a combustion engine compared to a battery run auto, once again, the affects on the environment will still be far less.

From a practical standpoint though, I think we are still years away from producing an affordable truck that can tow a 45′ RV for any real distance. There are still plenty of areas in this country in which we have traveled 400-500 miles without seeing a fuel or re-charge station. How about that trip to Alaska you have been dreaming of?

fred ford
1 year ago

how does one determine the difference between a homeless rv’er and a full timer? aren’t full timers homeless also?

1 year ago
Reply to  fred ford

Nope, we are houseless, not homeless.

1 year ago
Reply to  fred ford

Nope. No more cleaning clutter out of the closets and dust bunnies.

1 year ago
Reply to  fred ford

Since RV’s are classified by the government (HUD) as temporary shelters, I would propose that if you don’t have some form of stick-and-bricks, you are considered homeless. That’s why it’s hard to get a drivers’ license, medical insurance, a passport or your mail. You don’t have a permanent address.

In a stick-and-brick (or form thereof), you don’t have this issue.

Having said that, the pros outweigh the cons of sticks-and-bricks if you are playing the game right. 🙂 (Admittedly, its not for everyone).

But, we love being “Homeless” and are proud of it!

1 year ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

BTW…We are full-timers and have been for at least 5 years now. We could move back into a sticks and brick at anytime. It’s a lifestyle choice.

Danny Wells
1 year ago
Reply to  fred ford

Low IQ question ? Not funny.

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