The new American RVer – not a pretty sight

82

By Russ and Tiña De Maris

Across the nation, people are discovering just how much an RV can become a home. Full-timers have known this for ages, and snowbird RVers may spend months calling their RV “home.”

But a new breed of Americans is taking up RV living and, for them, it isn’t a life of sights on the road, visiting National Parks, nor spending a wonderful night around the campfire with new friends. For these RV dwellers, it’s $10-a-day to rent an RV on a back street, ducking police and angry neighbors, and fighting bedbugs and other vermin. These unfortunates are homeless people, in a strange, symbiotic relationship with a new breed of slumlords called Vehicle Ranchers.

The new American RVer – not a pretty sight
photo: bryce_nesbitt on flickr.com

Here’s how it works: A Rancher hits the abandoned vehicle auction where, for example, a broken-down RV can often be bought for as little as a dollar. He tows the dead rig out of the yard and onto a local street where he parks it. An advertisement on Craigslist offering a place to sleep out of the weather for $10 a night will soon put the “no vacancy” sign up.

In many areas, as long as the vehicle is moved every 72 hours, the Vehicle Rancher can keep the game going endlessly. Worst-case scenario, if the rig is impounded the Rancher will often just leave it alone until it goes back up for auction.

One Rancher in Seattle, Richard Winn, says he feels he’s providing a reasonable service. Since none of his tenants are required to put down a deposit, nor sign any kind of binding lease, if they fail to pay their $75 a week rent, they aren’t out anything when given the boot. On the other hand, the “tenants” don’t get a key, nor are they allowed to use the toilet in the RV. In some cases they can, provided they line it with a plastic bag and dispose of the waste on their own. Winn is considered one of Seattle’s biggest Vehicle Ranching landlords, but he’s certainly not the only one.

Down in Los Angeles there’s the man who calls himself Rob. He buys abandoned RVs from a tow yard. He, however, has an inside track – he works as a tow truck driver. His tenants pay $10 a day, and some of them get a bonus. They can use their rigs’ toilets, provided they pay a bit extra. Rob has a friend who’s a septic pumping business employee, and he’ll come by and pump out the holding tanks. In the San Francisco area the prices aren’t as easy – there RV renters are charged $400 to $500 a month.

Just how big the Ranching business is can’t be quantified. In a recent survey of Seattle homeless, there were about 800 RVs being occupied by what were identified as homeless people. Just how many were on the rent-by-the-day system wasn’t clear. But even if half were Vehicle Ranched, it’s easy to see how some sharp-eyed characters might find the business a hit.

IN SOME WAYS, living this way is better than a cardboard shelter or a tent. At least the weather is largely kept out, and once inside, a dweller can lock out the bad guys. But once inside there are other problems. Likely there’s no running water, and often no place to poop. One towing company said conditions in many of the rigs they tow are so bad they prohibit their tow truck drivers from stepping inside the rigs. That decision was made after a driver came out of one rig bearing a load of bed bugs. Trash, dirt and overall filth aren’t uncommon.

Not surprisingly, business owners and residents where Vehicle Ranchers set up shop don’t find having rundown RVs on their doorsteps pleasing. Temporary tenants often find themselves on the receiving end of verbal abuse, and frequent visits from law enforcement officers. It goes with the territory.

The new American RVer – not a pretty sightSeattle officials are now taking aim at the Vehicle Ranching practice. The Emerald City’s mayor has a $1.3 million budget earmarked to remove and demolish the worst of the street-parked RVs. She wants more regulations that would push hard to close down Vehicle Ranchers. Likely outcomes include pushing paying customers elsewhere, perhaps into worse situations. And for those who live in a rig they already own, a law targeting Vehicle Ranching will have no effect.

Where does the answer lie? One non-profit group in Sacramento is aiming to help “non-chronic” homeless people – ones who are temporarily out of homes. The group takes donated RVs, places them in RV parks so there will be full utilities, and rents them out for around $500 to $700 a month. Inexpensive, when compared to apartment rent, but certainly out of the reach of those without a job. But like so many of the other big problems facing not just the United States but humanity as a whole, there just doesn’t seem to be any easy solution at hand.

Your comments welcome. Please be respectful.

82
Join the Discussion

28 Comment threads
49 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
Scott~

This is a great article bringing awareness to The Full Time RV community about how Slumlords/Vehicle Ranchers are taking advantage of the homeless or those with no other current options. (no matter the reason for being homeless, which are numerous). I loved it, thank you.

The title in is my opinion clickbait and misleading. Newbies and future newbies have fears about getting into this great way of living. This title which has nothing to do with the written article can fuel their fears. Thanks for listening,

MIZHOLLY

Thank you for that very interesting article. This is a new one on me. My DH & I have been proud to have been Landlords for the majority of our 45 years together and have always treated our tenants with dignity and respect. Please do not refer to these people that move trailers about as Landlords. These “Ranchers” are may be enterpring clever and, in their minds, saving the planet by recycling old RV’s, but I, for one, am left hollow, saddened, and aghast, not only by their actions, but by their true intention.

Mark

It’s all free until you run out of other peoples money.

Cere

So, taxpayers in Seattle are having to fork over $1.3 million to remove these street-parked RVs? Aren’t these RVs tagged and titled? Seems simple enough to follow vehicle registration laws and fine the owner.

Gina Harrington

This is not just a city streets issue! My husband and I are new to RV ing and like the affordability and beauty of state campgrounds. A lot of them are located at or near prime tourist attractions. We recently camped in a NY state campground and a homeless guy was tent camping next to us. He was squatting on a campsite that was reserved by someone else, and was asked by a park employee to move to another campsite AND pay for the past 4 days which he had not done, by that evening. Next day he was still… Read more »

Billy Bob Thorton

Gee, in New York huh. My guess is the state employee responsible for kicking him out decided to shirk his duty. It’s a liberal state, so until they step up and enforce the LAW. It will continue to deteriorate.

Vincee

In a sad way, I had to laugh at the comment about the program that puts used RV’s in campgrounds and then rented out at a reasonable amount of $500-$700 per month. If the very liberal west coast states stopped cow-towing to the public service unions and everything should be free mantra, free college, free health care, free immigration, free energy and so on, maybe, just maybe the prices for a decent apartment wouldn’t be in the thousands, hey San Francisco, and the ranchers would have less clients. In the Buffalo, NY area there are many good apartments in that… Read more »

John

Where do most welfare recipients live? Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi.
San Francisco has a large tech community who drive up the prices because they are making tons of money.
If it weren’t for unions you would still be working 10 hour days 6 days a week with no health insurance and very little pay.
If you are from the Buffalo area you should know this.
But you are ok with the corporations taking everything they can and then relocate so they can make more money by paying the non union people from the south less and give them less benefits

Vincee

John, if you read my reply I stated “Public Service Unions” such as teachers, police, firefighters, public works and such. Their retirement packages hold very few equals in the private sector.
They are political pawns in the system on a national basis but perhaps the worst in almost bankrupt California. I have no problem with private industry unions. I realize they keep large corporations in check making sure they share the wealth and the trickle-down effect to non-union jobs and the overall economy.

Cere

My daughter works 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, with no benefits and for very little pay at a daycare – taking care of people’s babies!

Tom Rastall

Not true. You. Must work for CNN.
here are the states with the most we,fare recipients:
New York. Welfare spending per capita: $3,305. …
Alaska. Welfare spending per capita: $3,020. …
Massachusetts. Welfare spending per capita: $2,911. …
Vermont. Welfare spending per capita: $2,842. …
Minnesota. …
New Mexico. …
Delaware. …
Maine.

Cactus Jack

I am astonished. Like, “wow!” just can’t cover it. Drugs is not always the cause. Or alcohol. Maybe mental health has it’s presence, but that’s really a tale for another time (how many of you feel you’re just fine, when by DSM-5 you’re really not?). I have lived the majority of my life in an RV. Is it a matter of choice? Yes and no. Yes I’d rather live in an RV and try enjoying life free of fear of assaults or I can live in an apartment where I have fewer rights. You see, I am one of those… Read more »

bisonwings

Ultimately all forms of aid and comfort given to the homeless, addicts, and mentally challenged have to come from somewhere. Every program conceived of by man has flaws and those flaws are exacerbated by and exploited by people who exist to line their own pockets or seek to exploit those they are supposed to be helping. We had state institutions for the mentally challenged who couldn’t cope in society but you can thank the ACLU for putting those poor unfortunate folks on the streets and under our bridges. Yes their civil liberties may have been violated but at least they… Read more »

Dr. Sheridan J. Ball

Huh? Glad you live in Kansas and not near me.

Alvin

Came in late and can’t read all the comments, but if no one has mentioned population unsustainability as a major cause of much of this a point has been missed. People with no means can no longer continue to come to this or any other prosperous country dripping in infants and expect anything but these types of outcomes. Of course that doesn’t mean Americans and Canadians north of 49 don’t have enough home grown problems , it is just that we cannot keep breeding like fly’s and expect great results down the road. The city I live in has the… Read more »

Ron

The question remains….what do we do about those that “choose” to be homeless? I have a very good, loving, wonderful friend whose son, at a very young age, “chose” to live on the streets, for the past……22 years!!! He cut off all communication with his family for most of that time. Heartbreaking, to say the least.
Now, due to an accident and brain damage, his widowed mother has let him return to the family home. He can no longer function alone. Can’t work. Can’t interact in most situations. They barely know one another. A sad and stressful situation.

Charles Yaker

there are solutions but nobody wants to hear them. Income inequality just keeps rolling along and most if not all of our representatives whore for the biggest payer. the mainstream media is broken therefore we no longer agree on basic facts. without which there is no way out.

Gigi R

Just the fact that there are so many homeless in this country is something I for one am ashamed of. I don’t know the solution, but it’s hard to think it is this way here, what is supposed to be one of the richest countries in the world.

Dr. Sheridan J. Ball

Agreed! Our system is so screwed up in so many ways.
Healthcare is an absolute mess. No one should go bankrupt paying medical bills. There are many systems in other countries that are far superior. No, America is Not the leader in many areas of social concern. But some people are absolutely blind or simply don’t want to face the facts. We are a long way from solving many of these problems, and the current political animosity only makes things more difficult.

D

Only 1%. No one should have a billion dollars. Some one with 40 million is poor to someone with 1 billion. And we have 10s of billion billionaires. I would be happy with 1 million. 999 + 1 million in 1 billion dollars. Population in America 327 million. 1 billion would be 3 million for for every man woman and child with change left over. So if you have 80 billion you would still have 79 billion more than the rest of us. I would say wages have been a little low for some time. If we would have been… Read more »

Snayte

I do not disagree with your point about there being people that are too rich but 1 billion divided by 327 million is about 3 dollars per person.

Bob M

But if there are 1000 billionaires in the US, seizing their wealth and dividing it by 327 million starts to look like at least $3000 per person. And that ignores the fact that many billionaires will have more than $1B. So, actually, seizing their wealth and redistributing it would have a bigger impact than you think. A person would need to earn about $17,000 per hour for 40 hours per week for 40 years in order to become a billionaire, assuming they’d pay taxes on the income. I have ignored the fact that they’d need to spend some of that… Read more »

jane shure

This is starting to sound like class envy. I have better things to worry about than the wealthy.

DCarroll

I am in agreement with a post above regarding the advertisement for “rent your rv”. I got a bad feeling in my gut the second I set eyes on it, and I had not yet read this article. Who buys an RV to rent it out? There are legitimate RV rental companies that do this and adhere to standards. Do you rent out your house while you’re on holiday? (Yes, I know, some people do exchanges, but I’m not talking about that.) This will quickly morph into the Airbnb of the trailer world, and we all know what happened to… Read more »

M. S.

People find ways like this to take advantage of a situation and others. On the other hand Renting let’s you try before you buy. If we hadn’t been able to rent an Rv to try it out, We would probably never have purchased one or would have purchased a Class A and HATED it. We LOVE the mobility and ease of parking, easy driving, use as a second car, etc of our used Class B. There might be some who do this hoping to give a chance for a homeless person to have a place to clean up and have… Read more »

AWH

give anyone that finds them self in this situation and they will ruin any good thing, that’s why before very long walmart will not allow any parking overnight, this group would ruin everything good that they can, why can’t people learn to respect property that doesn’t belong to them, because they don’t give a damn about anything in life that’s anywhere
near decent, some are so bad they belong in a cage , what’s the solution there isn’t one as this will continue for as long as we live here on this earth sorry to say

Zypher

Update, some Walmarts do not allow overnight parking. Mostly because of local restrictions.

p

WOW! Great article! Really eye opening. Never knew of “RV Ranchers”. Could be they’re part of the problem. I know San Diego (4th in the nation for Homeless) has a huge problem with RV homeless parking on their streets.

AndyT

To those that think it is not happening…IT IS. To those that think it’s either a drug or a homeless problem…YOU ARE WRONG. Folks, it is time you open your eyes and your minds to a growing problem. This is happening now in the NP campgrounds as well as on the streets. The Police, Camp Hosts and Rangers try to keep an eye on this, but it is getting harder and harder to do so.

Zypher

Park Rangers have the same authority as Police. It’s their choice not to enforce the law allowing squatters in NP’s.

Chris

Seems like this newsletter, which I enjoyed for many years, has gone the way of the negative! Negative toward the manufacturers, the dealers that sell them, the campgrounds and now the seedier side of RV use. Could we get back on a positive note of RVing? Or at least have a balance? Great places to go, beauty to see and great people to meet! RV tips to make things more fun or easier? There are many more positives aspects to write about! Let’s put the Recreational back in RV!

AWH

I belong to harvest hosts a fantastic idea, but they just sent out a list of rules why because of stupid people who will ruin any good thing in life cause they don’t give a damn about someone else’s property and that’s just the way it is now-a-days, so yeah I would like everyone to be talking about the positive side of life but guess what the stupid people just keep getting in the way

vim rolaff

Calling some people stupid is not that positive,is it?

Alvin

I like to be prepared and informed of things ongoing in my community and on the road. That some folks among us prefer to not do so, is a choice they have to live with if something goes wrong. I think many of us found this article incredibly well placed, well written and informing. Sorry some only want the good stuff. I wish them luck, lots of it.

Dr. Sheridan J. Ball

Well said.

Ms DuVille

“Verbal abuse”. What a joke. How do you kindly say to someone “please do not deficate on the sidewalk”? I live in the PNW, it’s already been established, this is not a “homeless” problem, it’s a drug problem.

Bre Nonoo

Agreed. These drugs come in from Mexico! How many lives are ruined especially young kids! When will they start holding Mexico responsible for American children / teens / adults affected by their drug mules?
Nobody talks about this! Media is too busy worrying about illegal children and yes… those poor kids are used as pawns by human traffickers and even their own parents!
Despicable

Renee from Idaho

I had no clue that this type of renting went on. No wonder some have a negative image of RV’ers, yet those are not RV’ers. I strongly agree with the one post here that the underlying issue is mental illness.

Cere

It’s also why local authorities almost always decline an application to build a new RV park in their community. They think of them all as ‘trailer parks’. The private parks will soon only be held by large corporate owners and will sell sites for $100,000 and up which owners will then pay monthly HOA dues on. The rest of the RVers will have to use state and national parks.

Tom Smythe

Homeless people are there for a variety of reasons – mental issues, jobless issues, runaways, etc… There is no one fix cures all solution. However, there is one solution that will compound the problem every time – subsidizing them. So long as any locality is willing to pour money into the problem, the homeless will be there to take advantage of it. This has been true throughout history and can be seen through the communication tactics employed by the homeless (we use to call them bums). In the end, there is only one answer and it is Biblical – if… Read more »

linda s gray

Completely agree with this evaluation. After living in Daytona Beach, I was appalled at the arrogance and sense of entitlement of the ‘homeless’ They have become organized and shut down everything from public parks to county buildings. Also, the town of Daytona is literally overrun. I hired quite a few of them, but generally they only worked, if they showed up, until I paid them, then they were gone. The amount of handouts and facilities they have in that area is staggering. There is even local church busing to their church for weekly showers, and basics. I saw the same… Read more »

Monty

Agreed, except if one doesn’t work one cannot get unemployment. But, perhaps, get welfare.

Karen K Willis

“For the truly mentally ill, there are facilities around the state/country.”
I don’t think is true anymore, except perhaps for the criminally insane. Missouri, the state I live in, closed most of the mental hospitals in the ’80s. For a few years, a lot of the patients had subsidized housing – unfortunately, most of the ex-patients were completely unable to live on their own and landlords exited the housing program. Now they live on the streets.

Steve-O

There’s an evenhanded documentary about homelessness in Seattle done by the local NBC affiliate. Anyone who is really interested in what’s going on with homelessness would do well to watch it. https://youtu.be/bpAi70WWBlw

If you want to help the homeless, find an organization that has real programs to help them get on their feet and give any money you would give to street people to those orgs.

Also, fight local government officials who support legalizing camping in public areas. People with motorhomes who do this are neither RVing, nor being a resident of a city.

RV Staff

Thanks, Steve-O. Yes, it’s a very mind-opening documentary, but it’s from KOMO, an ABC affiliate. Thank you for mentioning it. It’s very depressing, especially since I’ve lived here since I was born at Seattle General Hospital in 1946. 😯 😀 —Diane at RVtravel.com

Ami

I won’t get into my political thoughts on migrant housing because there’s no room for Facebook opinions on these pages …Please read an article here: https://www.westword.com/news/reasons-why-denvers-homeless-sleep-outside-and-not-in-overnight-shelters-10987893 – it talks about why many folks will NOT use the shelters that are set up. Building barracks won’t work when people would rather not stay. Homelessness has a huge underlying cause of mental illness, and until we start addressing that issue and remove the stigma, anything anyone builds will not be utilized. Locally, the shelters are full on very cold nights, but it takes teams of people to convince those on the streets… Read more »

Lydia Bishop

How ironic, an ad below the article is for renting out your RV!

rick louderbough

I too noticed how out of place that ad is.

Dennis Gardiner

I too did not know that this practice of RV Ranching existed! The article may explain why I was harassed in my RV last year, after parking near a business to drop off my kid for a tutoring lesson. It may also shed light on why we get funny looks when we pull into a shopping center for groceries on trips. The people giving us the looks, probably have negative experiences with other so-called RV dwellers. As for those who stated this is a negative article. May I kindly state, that being informed of issues that may give the non… Read more »

linda s gray

agreed

Craig LeClerc

Army barrack style compounds such as what they had back during war times (a sad time in our history) but used to house and rehabilitate. They could be placed on old military bases that are not even being, just getting run down. Yes, there is a cost, but with the wealth of this country and some adjustments in our budget it most be doable. The cost of running the operation could be deferred by many of the homeless themselves working there to earn there keep. Some of these camps housed up to 10,000 back in wartime.

linda s gray

So many of the homeless will not, or can not work. There is also the problem of keeping them on the barracks ground, with a willingness to stay in the system of helps. There seems to be a general feeling of not working with in the system that the homeless seem embrace. There are currently MANY programs to help them, but they don’t seem to be willing to leave their established lifestyle. I do believe there are some who have not chosen this lifestyle, and will accept a hand up, but I don’t think that is a large percentage.

Gauvain

Craig LeClerc’s idea of using our military bases is an excellent idea, that I have been mentioning on several websites for the homeless, especially, but not limited too, the military homeless. I happen to be an Air Force veteran, who served during the Vietnam War but did not go to Vietnam. Today, at the age of 72 and 10 months, I am a lucky man for many, many reasons. I am also quite disappointed about what has happened to our people, both civilian and military-related. Let’s be very honest and very clear about this ‘homeless’ problem…First, and most important is,… Read more »

Rob T

I do and have done a lot of donating , food, cloths, hygiene kits and helped homeless people in the past, most of theses people I have met including my two cousins and aunt who are homeless prefer to live in tents instead of living in a family members house where there are rules and curfews , it’s a tough topic to deal with, but I feel I have the solution , the post above talks about illegal immigrants having better conditions than American homeless people, we’ll , it dawned on me that people coming over our border want to… Read more »

linda s gray

Excellent!

Lydia Bishop

Your essay is way too nice. The problems with RV vagrant addicts is one of the ugliest social issues facing West Coast cities. Most of the street people in Seattle are addicts! Their criminal behavior is driving normal people out of Seattle.

Please do not gloss over a festering wound of addiction, criminal behavior, and disease.

Seattle is indeed dying, and glossing it over with a bland essay is not the way to discuss it!

Monty Bonner

Lydia has the right of it, give all the addicts three times to get clean, they fail, eliminate them from society. Treatment is not cheap, taxpayers pay for it, I pay enough in taxes and am tired of all the social do-gooders wanting me to pay for even more social services, when what is now being used is wasteful to say the least. I will give you a helping hand but when you fail to achieve life in it’s measure, then you fail the test to the right of life. Sorry to be so harsh, but a line needs to… Read more »

Monty Bonner

Oh, forget to mention, we left the PNW because we saw the handwriting on the wall. The politicos, are going to bring down everyone’s else lifestyle to give the lowest rung of society a foothold, when they have failed at the aspect of life period. Where we live now, low taxes, no homeless, the best roads in the country, reasonable access to stores and great medical. I am not taxed to death here. When trouble shows up the sheriff puts them in jail or runs them off. Harsh, life is harsh, grow up or give up, those are your choices.

Matt

Where do you live if I may ask, Monty. Thanks.

Karen K Willis

Yes, where

linda s gray

I left my home in Daytona Beach for the same reason. It also became to dangerous to walk the streets, even in the daylight.

Colleen

So I guess you would give anyone that has autism 3 chances to correct it or you kill them. Gays too, 3 chances or to the gas chamber with you. Cancer, here’s your 3 chances. Some people are so cluelss is scares me. Addiction is a medically recognized disease for which there is NO CURE! Pray to whatever you believe in that you are never struck with it.

Alvin

And colleen’s solution is??????????????????

brent

Colleen, you are correct– the medical community has weighed in on addiction– only defined it poorly. It is not a disease, it is in all of us and we choose how to deal with it. Churches and communities have not done their part in continual teaching of what is right and the need for vigilance. If you are a ‘workaholic’ then you have an addiction problem. If you are obese you have an addiction problem. If you spend too much on unneeded items and go broke you have an addiction. We have drunks and drug users who through poor choices… Read more »

Burns

Eliminate them from society??? Are you talking execution? Extermination camps? Because that’s what it sounds like you’re proposing.
Hitler tried that, didn’t work out so well.
And no, I don’t have a solution, but “eliminating them from society” is not a solution, it’s genocide..

Captain

Thank you, I was wondering how long before race or religion might be included it this poster comments if he kept going. Seems many don’t realize that not all but many peoples addiction started with legal drugs due to illness, injury or traumatic events and caused them to fall into a downward spiral once hooked. Thank Big Pharma for that and lack of mental illness treatment. Imagine, after being looked down on as the skum of life, how easy is it to just pop out of that mindset? Greed, lack of compassion and intelligence is killing our world.

Ed D.

I find it ironic that non-citizens on our Southern Border are provided with shelters and have it better than American citizens in our own Cities and States. When will our politicians address the problems we face within our own country, instead of providing food and shelter for people that shouldn’t be here in the first place. We always call ourselves “The greatest Country in the World” but we just don’t act like it. I think we can all agree that our homeless and needy should come first and a solution found that will eliminate the poor conditions these people have… Read more »

Kamperman_1994

AMEN….Ed D.

Karen K Willis

And veterans having trouble adjusting to civilian life.!

Captain

Hey, hate to interrupt your rant on Hispanics but have you also noticed that people in prison get better treatment than the homeless where ever they come from? “3 hots and a cot” medical, dental, don’t pay rent, get paid to work (menial yes but something) Hang with the guys, workout, a little basketball or TV… How is it we as a country seem to be fine supporting them and not the homeless? Denigrating people who have mental challenges is not how you lift them up to do better. BTW, will your children be picking the fields or gutting chickens… Read more »

Doug Hoegh

Everyone needs to watch the special news report you can find on You Tube called “Seattle is Dying”

Ted Denman

Thank you for sharing this depressing information. It does explain, to me, why there are so many run down RVs on Seattles’ streets.

Alvin

We’re on our way to Winchester Bay as I write this and we intentionally dropped onto the Pacific coast well below Seattle and Portland, and at the rate of deterioration the entire coast may be bypassed soon, we just don’t feel safe except in the largest most secure thus most expensive RV resorts. To bad it has come to this.

TP

They are “landlords”. Just because they aren’t fixed structures shouldn’t exempt the slumlord ranchers from not meeting basic services of a rental property. States or cities should go after them.

Ted Denman

Totally agree!

Wolfe

I have to be the dissenting voice here… cities should go after them for parking private property or litter or whatever, but not for renting an object cheaply to people who need cheap objects. They are renting a roof, not bathroom and cable TV. If I rented a tent, it shouldn’t be legally forced to have air conditioning because then I couldn’t afford ANY tent. If I buy a car, it shouldn’t be forced to be a limo, because then I have no car. You get it. Feel good legal requirements reliably turn into hurting the very people you think… Read more »

Monty

Bravo! Let the free market reign.

TP

Renting a car or a tent isn’t the same as renting living quarters. Living quarters have to meet certain requirements, health being a main one.
You can rent whatever car you want as long as it gets you from point A to point B. If you are renting cars and they don’t run, you are in trouble.

Mark B

Agree. While I feel for the plight of those who are homeless, for whatever reason, the RV rancher is a landlord. And “market spectrum affordable housing” does not apply to a facility that lacks working toilet/sink, sewage and trash services. Unfortunately, the cities need to fit this into their inspection/policing budget and figure out how to expediently (and legally) vacate and remove (in some case incinerate) these units. New methods and, if required, statutes for catching and fining RV ranchers are needed. If it costs an RV rancher more than s/he can make, many will leave the business. On the… Read more »

Karen K Willis

That probably would just leave more living in cardboard boxes. I am not smart enough to suggest an answer.

Donald Wright

The homeless issue tugs at my heart, yet providing them with junk RV’s is not the answer. I would prefer a dormitory type permanent shelter for them, while the “little house village” East of Austin is successful. As for the junk RV’s, what are folks supposed to do with them, where can they be disassembled for parts and scrapped.

Alvin

How big are the dormitories you propose Donald. I’ll suggest at the rate of this thing spreading across north America you and I and every other hard working taxpayer will never keep up to supporting those who bugger up their lives, then go on to populate the state/province with copies of themselves several times over. Responsibility should be multi faceted, and It isn’t, and feeding it isn’t the answer either, You feed it they will come Confucius said something like. Lazy man wait long time for bird to drop into mouth – Confucius very outdated today.