What does financing an RV for 20 years really mean?

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    By Chuck Woodbury
    EDITOR
    I don’t know if you can read the small print in this ad, but Camping World is enticing buyers to finance this entry level motorhome for 20 years. Camping World pushes such long-term loans to anyone it can sucker into doing it. Other dealers are forced to offer the same deal to stay competitive.

    In this ad, the cheaply built 28-foot Thor Freedom Elite is offered for $76,995 (MSRP $102,300) — $469 a month at 5.25 percent interest. That’s based on 10 percent down and payments for 20 years. At the end of 20 years, the total amount paid on the RV will be roughly $120,000! The RV will be worth next to nothing.

    Or how about this — paying that $120,000 for 20 years averages $16.40 a day for 7,300 days. Or, put another way, 68 cents an hour for 175,200 hours!


    At the end of its first two years, the RV will be worth roughly $51,000 but the buyer will still owe about $65,000. So if something happens and the new owner must sell the RV, he or she will need to write a check for around $14,000 just to come out even. It doesn’t get much better for most of the loan.

    What a deal! Pick up this 1998 Seabreeze motorhome for $5,300 on eBay. What will a similar RV bought today be worth in 2038? And how much will it cost if financed for those 20 years?

    Think about that 20-year loan for a moment. Let me try to provide some perspective. If, today, you were about to make your final payment on a loan you took out 20 years ago — that would have been in 1998 — here’s what was going on in the world at the time:

    •Google.com was founded by two Stanford University students.
    •President Bill Clinton admitted he had an “improper physical relationship” with intern Monica Lewinsky. 
    •The average price of gas was $1.15 a gallon.
    •Seattle quarterback Russell Wilson was 10 years old.
    •Pop and country star Taylor Swift was 9 years old.
    •Pop star Justin Bieber was still in preschool.
    •Camping World and Good Sam CEO Marcus Lemonis was too young to drive.
    •St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Mark McGwire broke baseball’s single-season home run record.
    •Assembly began of the International Space Station.
    •Europeans agreed on a single currency, the Euro.
    •Apple Computer unveiled the iMac.
    •Frank Sinatra and Tammy Wynette died.

    And. . .
    •It would be 3 years until the terror attack on the World Trade Center.
    •It would be 5 years before the start of the Iraq War.
    •Facebook would not debut for 6 years, YouTube for 8 years.
    •The first iPhone would not be sold for 9 years!
    •And you were 20 years younger!

    Do you have an infant child or grandchild? If you take out a 20-year RV loan today, that child or grandchild will be halfway through college before you make your final payment!

    Kinda makes you think, huh?

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    Bill T.

    Hi Chuck. Thanks for the article. My only issue is with folks talking all the time about depreciation. If you are worried about the depreciation value of an RV, perhaps you shouldn’t buy it in the first place. We bought our rig new in 2015, with a 20 year loan and we plan to keep the rig until we are finished traveling. With proper financial planning to pay out the loan in less than twenty years, we have a rig that no one has used before and we didn’t inherit other peoples junk. We paid our rig off this year,… Read more »

    CWO, USMC, Retired
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    CWO, USMC, Retired

    Most of us desire instant gratification. Paying interest on a loan for a “toy” makes no sense unless you are disciplined to invest the same amount of cash so that it returns more than the interest you are paying. Check the internet for the average credit card debt – it was around $8,000 the last time I checked. Lately personal income has increased but personal consumption increased significantly more meaning a lot of people are spending way beyond their means and living paycheck to paycheck. The ease of borrowing encourages people to buy what they cannot afford – I learned… Read more »

    Sherri Eley
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    Sherri Eley

    WE bough a used 5th wheel for our last of our life RV purchase. it is in excellent condition, Looks as if it was never used. So we saved a bundle on depreciation. The last new vehicle we bought and will probably be the last one ever is our Ford 250 diesel to pull the 5th wheel. It was purchased in AZ after a week or two of looking. and getting the best deal. I do however have issues with purchasing a used motor home. The one that we bought from Lazy Days in Florida was a mistake, we pumped… Read more »

    Paul Gerster
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    Paul Gerster

    Everyone does not fit into the category you continually harp on. I could have paid cash for my RV however, the stock market is going gang busters right now and my financial advisor said I would be crazy to pay cash for an RV. He suggested the 20 year loan at an effective after tax rate of 4.58%. And why not when he is producing returns between 7.50% and 10%.

    Ray Leissner
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    Ray Leissner

    I trust you are watching your advisor’s rate of return after fees and taxes. And are prepared to pay the loan off should performance wain. I have yet to find an advisor who says the best place to put your money is NOT with him.

    Sherri Eley
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    Sherri Eley

    I would be looking for a new financial advisor

    Bob Godfrey
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    Bob Godfrey

    Unfortunately people only live for the monthly payments and hardly ever consider the total cost of anything. If you look back at the housing “bubble” that nearly bankrupted many companies it was mainly due to ARMs being offered to people who had no business having a loan to begin with, a house of cards that came crashing down eventually when folks could not make the ever increasing payments. I know a woman who took her car in for an oil change and wound up with a new vehicle because the salesman promised to keep her payments the same, which he… Read more »

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    Troy

    I have a 20 year loan at 4.99% on a 2017 Thor Challenger. I don’t see any problems with it. Now if someone actually plans on taking the full 20 years to pay the loan off that’s plain stupidity. Just like having a home loan you should be able to do a 15 year loan, but you get the 30 year loan for the ability to make lower payments on months where you want to spend money on something else. Never make minimum payments the norm, they should only be for emergency use only. Always pay off loans early, and… Read more »

    Debra
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    Debra

    Great article Chuck. I hope it wakes up some people who may have used this extended financing. Unfortunately though too many people go this route for all their major purchases, not just RVs.

    Tommy Molnar
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    Tommy Molnar

    “68 cents an hour for 175,200 hours!”

    Wow! Now THAT’S the way to look at this.

    Wayne Caldwell
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    Wayne Caldwell

    Chuck, It just reinforces our ideas of not buying a new.car, truck, or RV. Truly, the last new ( ever before owned) car that I bought cost me $3,265.00 — a 1975 Fiat 128 4-door sedan when I was.stationed in Madrid, Spain. Our travel trailer that we bought two years ago is now 17 years old and the truck that we.bought two months ago is 3 years old. We refuse to buy a new.car/truck and pay an outrageous price and then face the 25% depreciation as soon as we sign the papers and then the key to start it. Agreed… Read more »