RVers and camp hosts share a trick to getting around the 14-day stay limit. It works, but are the consequences worth it?

RV sales have slowed and fewer people are buying RVs than has been the recent trend. Has that changed campground crowding? Is it easier to find a campsite now, particularly in state and national parks? Campgrounds are changing and evolving, some for the better and some for the worse. RVtravel.com readers discuss their experiences and offer a few tips to help other campers find that perfect spot.

Here are a few observations from our readers.

No issue getting sites in a Class B

John D. likes to plug in and has had little difficulty finding sites in their Class B. He wrote, “My wife and I traveled full-time from January 2023 through August 2023 in our Class B RV. We rarely had trouble finding an available campsite. Occasionally we had to make a couple of phone calls if it claimed to be full online. We only boondocked twice as we prefer to be plugged in. Newer campgrounds had nicer accommodations, especially with showers. There were a few times that we stayed overnight at a full-time RV park but we tried to avoid those if possible. KOAs were our go-to if available.”

Host for Harvest Hosts even has problems getting sites!

Rob C. tells us he even has problems getting sites on the same day. He wrote, “I’m a host for Harvest Hosts. It’s a great way to camp for the most part. My only problem is when I’m traveling myself I can’t get a same-day stay. A lot of times I don’t know where I will be two or three days ahead of time!”

Temper expectations: Relax, enjoy, move on

K A. sent us some good advice when traveling and staying at RV resorts: “I temper my expectations at RV resorts and enjoy what’s available. It’s nice to be off the road and hooked up. it’s a place to stay, not a permanent thing. Relax, enjoy, move on.”

More RVers on the road, fewer parks

David H. shares a crowded campground equation with us. He writes, “For years I never had a problem finding a campsite for my RV. But now, it seems like many are full and you have to make reservations months in advance. It seems like there are more RVers on the road but fewer RV parks. Parks are being closed so condos can be built. Village residents don’t want a new one in their backyard. And the BLM and FS are closing off lands to camping. More RVs + fewer spaces = crowding.”

Supply and demand determine prices—not greedy owners in a free market economy

Leonard R., one of our Canadian friends, shares his thoughts on booking, site lock fees and the free market economy. “I write this note as I wake up to a beautiful Palm Desert sunrise! We are from Toronto, so RVing in the Southwest is quite a journey for us, but we love it here! We spend 3-5 months away, staying at 5-6 destinations as we chase the weather.

“It is not very difficult to find sites, as I plan our snowbird winters a year or more in advance. I use Harvest Hosts for the trips here and back; even these I book as early as possible. I no longer pay the extortion cost of a ‘site lock fee’ and have not had an issue with getting a great site.

“I have seen more permanent and seasonal residents over the last several years. However, this appears to be a combination of lifestyle and economic choices. I have zero issues with crowded campgrounds as the most important part in selecting a site is the space it provides.

“RV parks are a business just like an airline or a Walmart. They must make a profit or they will be gone. Supply and demand will determine prices, not ‘greedy owners,’ as so many people like to blame it on. If the value is there I will return, if not I will go elsewhere. Isn’t this a free market economy? What separates Canada and the USA from say Cuba, China, or Russia? As an RVer, I remember that most of my problems are just ‘first world problems’.”

Unexpected high maintenance costs as RV and RVer age

Jim J. writes about the high maintenance costs of full-time RVing, particularly when both RV and RVer age. “This isn’t really the intent of your Crowded Campgrounds column, Nanci, but I am seeing an important trend. As a seasonal RVer, we stay long enough in one spot to know a lot of FT RVers. One of the things I am seeing with the increase in FT RVers is they substantially underestimate maintenance costs.

“Few RVs are meant to be used FT, so things wear faster than might otherwise. While retirees might not be on fixed incomes, usually dipping into 401k retirement savings outside their budget means both higher taxes that year and lower investment earnings from there on. And as these RVers age, they are less able physically to deal with things they used to do, and hired labor costs have gone up. It’s not hard to see where this poor planning leads.”

Nanci’s note: So true, Jim. We let our “fingers do the walking” more and more often now instead of our fingers doing the working. It definitely comes at a cost.

Cheater, cheaters!

Don W. calls out the cheaters that get around the 14-day rules. “We used to go to Arizona as a snowbird for many years. They have beautiful State Park camping but reservation cheating is rampant and State Park officials know about it and look the other way. The most common tactic was to reserve two weeks in the husband’s name then two weeks in the wife’s name and just continue that tactic for a couple of months. An easy rule would be to use your license plate as a requirement. But the State Parks won’t do it. So we RV mostly for 3-4 days in our own state in the middle of the week.”

Nanci’s note: We see this all the time as camp hosts in Minnesota. The online reservation system doesn’t catch it, particularly when they use different names and addresses. We are usually the ones who notice an RV has been in the park for over two weeks. They are then not allowed to reserve for the rest of the season. However, with 260 sites it is definitely difficult to catch everyone.

Check this state park out with a rave review

Steven M. is giving us a great tip on a state park in Pennsylvania. He writes, “I will give away the ghost right away. Caledonia State Park near Gettysburg, PA, is a great place to camp. I don’t know what is allowed or not but since I tent camp there it is no problem. I have seen a variety of RVs there. There are many sites. The bathrooms and showers were excellent. They have over a hundred sites. There is plenty to do nearby. They even have a pool for kids (in a state park, no less). I stay there and travel out to destinations in WV, MD and other parts of PA. Check this out.”

Now, some questions for you:

  • Are you finding campgrounds booked up? Or is finding a place to stay not a problem?
  • Are campgrounds changing for the better or for the worse?
  • Are you seeing more permanent and seasonal RV parks?
  • Are rising costs affecting your camping style?
  • If campgrounds continue to be crowded and RVing continues to become more popular, will it affect how or when you RV?
  • Do you have any tips or secrets you’d like to share about finding campgrounds that aren’t as crowded?

Please use the form below to answer one or more of these questions, or tell us what you’ve experienced with campground crowding in general.

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Read last week’s Crowded Campgrounds column: ‘An Airbnb for a month is cheaper than our campsite!’ Plus, a tip for getting around lock-in fees

Nanci Dixon
Nanci Dixon
Nanci Dixon has been a full-time RVer living “The Dream” for the last six years and an avid RVer for decades more! She works and travels across the country in a 40’ motorhome with her husband. Having been a professional food photographer for many years, she enjoys snapping photos of food, landscapes and an occasional person. They winter in Arizona and love boondocking in the desert. They also enjoy work camping in a regional park. Most of all, she loves to travel.

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16 Comments

Cookie P
2 years ago

I really appreciated Leonard R’s perspective on RVing and crowded campgrounds.

“As an RVer, I remember that most of my problems are just ‘first world problems’.”

Last edited 2 years ago by Cookie P
Leonard
2 years ago
Reply to  Cookie P

Thank-you!

Cancelproof
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard

Each year, we spend 6-8 weeks minimum in Western Canada and/or the Prarie Provinces which is the region of my birth and I have to say that I sure am glad we are welcomed in and continue to receive tremendous hospitality. The reciprocal nature of our 2 nations that share so much land mass is uniquely North American. Even though each of our respective leaders at times over the years have been embarrassments, it is the people of the general population that are our strength, not our weakness.

Peace and love Canuck.

J B
2 years ago

I learned long ago about “foreign snowbirds” and vowed to stay away from places where they crowd in thereby pushing Americans out. Lesson learned..especially in any SW state.

Leonard
2 years ago
Reply to  J B

Being a “foreign Snowbird”, I so appreciate the 99.99% of Americans I meet along our travels for their genuine hospitality and welcoming atmosphere they create for my wife and I. All “foreign Snowbirds”, willingly spend their dollars in the US, helping your economy as you do when you visit Canada. I write this as I look to snow in Bryce Canyon NP, which is just spectacular!
Thanks to RVTravel for offering us all to share our viewpoints!

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard

Thank you for your thoughtful comment and kind words, Leonard. We’re glad you’re here (in the U.S. and on RVtravel.com)! It sounds like J B may be in the 0.01% that you may encounter who is not welcoming to our friends from the north. Shame on him.👎 (I wonder where his ancestors were from.🤔) Have a great day.🤗 –Diane at RVtravel.com

Cancelproof
2 years ago
Reply to  Leonard

Unless your an Oilers fan, your always welcome at my fire ring. 😉
Said the Flames fan.

George Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Cancelproof

What is an Oiler? Do they do oil changes or just lubes?

KellyR
2 years ago
Reply to  J B

In all my years I have never seen a “foreign snowbird”. I have never seen anyone from Japan, Australia, or elsewhere. We have visited with some of our friends from North American Canada but have not seen any foreigners. My cousin who sits on the North Dakota / Canadian line — is he a foreigner because of a few yards / meters? NORTH America — I think Canadians are in America too?

George Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  KellyR

What is an oiler? I usually just take my RV to a dealer for maintainance and oil change.

KellyR
2 years ago
Reply to  George Smith

I see you were asking for Cancelproof, but I will answer. The Edmonton Oilers are a Canadian hockey team in the NHL. Originally from Texas they had the name of Oilers from the oil state before moving to Tennessee and then to Edmonton Canada. Cancelproof is evidently a Flames fan. If you were being sarcastic, he deserved it.

Scott B
2 years ago
Reply to  J B

Wow…JB, you are truly an ambassador for the USA welcome wagon. Pry open that clenched mind please, just remember what you said if you venture to that beautiful country north of our border. You might be tagged with your own label

George Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott B

Huh???

Neal Davis
2 years ago

Thank you, Nanci! 🙂 Given how often we travel to the Washington, DC area, we just may check out Caledonia State Park that Steven M so graciously and generously shared with us. Thank you, Steven, and safe travels! Thanks to you, too, Nanci, for collecting, editing, and sharing these comments weekly! Safe travels! 🙂

peachcrek
2 years ago
Reply to  Neal Davis

I spent the afternoon in the picnic area and took an afternoon nap there when I was following my son hiking on the AT. It is a very nice park. Not sure about the camping there. The ranger was really nice in the office. Told me I could stay in the park to dusk if I needed to rest for a bit.

Neal Davis
2 years ago
Reply to  peachcrek

Thank you, peachcrek! 🙂 Safe travels! 🙂