RV’s roof membrane has ripples. Factory rep says it is normal. What?!

Dear Dave, 
After washing my roof and doing an inspection after it dried, I noticed “ripples” from the board particles underneath. Getting down on the roof, I noticed these were areas where the fabric was not glued to the board underneath. The entire roof is this way (see pictures). Is this a problem? It looks good otherwise. Thanks for your advice! —Phil, 2019 Coachmen Chaparral 381RD

I received this question from Phil a week ago and we have corresponded a few times since. Here is my original response:

Dear Phil,
I would have someone look at this. It is not normal, and I would suspect it will be a problem in the future. The ridges running across are the seams of the particle board underneath. Depending on how loose they are, they could cut through the roof material. I suspect all the ripples are particle board separations, which could also tear the membrane. It’s either a moisture leak or poor adhesive application. Contact Coachmen first to see what their structural warranty is and then contact a dealer. —Dave

I then got this back from Phil:

David,
Sent my roof pictures to Coachmen and below is their reply.  What is your opinion of that answer? Something else about the roof that I didn’t tell them. When I checked the roof early in the morning when it is cool out, it looks normal. It is when the sun starts heating it up that this occurs. We are in Arizona now, so high in 70s and lows in lower 50s.

I appreciate your expertise and responses, David! Thank you so much! —Phil

Response from Coachmen regarding RV roof

From Coachmen:

Good morning-

Per our plant manager:

I wouldn’t do anything if it is not leaking. Looks to me like the OSB is printing through the rubber. It will not cause a problem for the customer.

Thank you,

Kristyn Udell
Warranty Rep Coachmen Plant 110
Brookstone & Chaparral Fifth Wheels
Shasta Phoenix Fifth Wheels

Here is my response:

Phil,
It is obvious the OSB (Oriented Strand Board) underneath is expanding or swelling with the temperature changes and although it might not cause a problem currently, what happens further down the road? There really is nothing that can be done immediately other than a new roof however I would make sure the dealer has it documented as well as the Coachmen Rep. I don’t like the wait and see approach, but I know they won’t go to the expense of a new roof! I’ll post this later this week and see if anyone has gotten a manufacturer to participate. —Dave

From Phil

Thanks Dave!  Yes, I am keeping emails and pictures in my files. —Phil

My conclusion

This is not a normal roof and my concern would be the seams that are protruding up on the membrane will eventually tear it and the bubbles are OSB fibers that could do the same thing. It might not be this season, but I would bet it won’t be long. “Printing” is not a common term that I have come across. I would want it in writing that it will not cause a problem!

I did forward the contact information of Ron Burge at www.rvlemonlaw.com to Phil.

It might be time to get someone a little more excited about this.


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4 Comments

Mikal H
2 years ago

WOW! That roof is horrible. One amazing thing is that it appears the seams were taped prior to the membrane installation and even those edges are showing through! That must be some really thin membrane. It’s one reason I want a fiberglas sheet roof vs some flimsy membrane material.

I would push this issue forcefully. Coachman is just using a delay tactic and then when it fails they will pull out the ol’ “It’s out of warranty” card.

Jack
2 years ago

45 years in manufacturing. Factory reps are people hired for their ability to spin things. I’ve been in the presence of some truly great ones. Got a bunch of stories

Jim Johnson
2 years ago

Our RV is a 2017 Keystone with a tan EPDM roof. From day 1 I could see the roof joints (looks like some form of tape over the panel joints). Nothing as blatantly obvious as the article photos. This RV has been substantially stationary since October of 2017 and is used as a winter home in south-central Texas. It has been well maintained via cleaning, UV protectant and seal upkeep.
Last summer was blazing hot in Texas. For the first time I am starting to see a few bubbles in the membrane. I will wait and see how much the membrane shrinks in the winter, but suspect those bubbles are permanent. So long as everything stays watertight, I’ll just remain careful not to snag anything.

Neal Davis
2 years ago

Thank you, Dave! So much knowledge about so much AND a willingness to share that wealth of knowledge!?! You are a gem, Dave! Thank you for writing for RV Travel and patiently answering so many varied questions. 🙂