Friday, March 24, 2023


KOA amps up the camping con game

It’s mid-winter in New York, but the temperature was unseasonably hot when the Saugerties town planning board held a public hearing recently on a KOA-proposed 75-site glamping resort. Approximately 200 local residents turned out Jan. 17 and hooted their approval as a score of speakers—and one mischievous singer—detailed the many reasons why this is a deplorable idea. But while not a single business owner, politician or civic booster rose in defense of the project, KOA showed no sign of backing down, either, demonstrating yet again how far it’s departed from its folksy origins and how oblivious it has become to public opinion.

The Saugerties venture is KOA’s second attempt to diversify into the high-dollar end of the campground business, following an initial foray in Bar Harbor, Maine. That first effort converted a conventional KOA into a glampground under the Terramor nameplate, but while repurposing an existing campground avoided some troublesome issues, it created others. So, on its second go-round, KOA decided to find an undeveloped piece of land on which it could start with a clean slate. It settled on a 77-acre site between Woodstock and Saugerties. And then its problems began.

While initially slow to take notice and build support, the anti-Terramor movement in recent months has gained both momentum and sophistication. Fund-raising to hire scientific and legal talent by now has generated nearly $40,000. The group’s online presence is rich with documentation and resource materials. And its arguments are becoming more refined, homing in on what may be the project’s greatest weakness: an unyielding terrain.

Neighbors not the problem

“I think the real surprise for Terramor was not the neighbors. I think the surprise was that the blank canvas they purchased was on bedrock that made septic impossible, contained wetlands that made wastewater difficult to release and included an endangered species that needed a protected habitat,” said Susan Paynter, a leader of the local opposition. “The neighbors are the least of their problems.”

While all that is daunting enough, another argument still shaping up in Saugerties has more widespread implications: that all this talk about “glamping” is ultimately deceitful. That to describe a project as having “campsites” occupied by “temporary structures,” as KOA has done in its presentations, is at best disingenuous when those “temporary structures” have 600-square-foot footprints and are erected on wooden platforms with plumbing and electricity. The Terramor “tents,” while superficially qualifying for that label because the outer shell is canvas, have wooden interior walls, ceramic-floored showers with twin shower heads and, in some cases, a second bedroom in which to stick the kids.

In that respect, glamping “tents” are another aspect of the industry’s efforts, similar to its embrace of park model RVs, to push the limits on what kinds of dwellings it can erect with minimal tax and regulatory liabilities. “Temporary” structures—one because it has a canvas shell, the other because it still has wheels attached to its chassis—in most jurisdictions aren’t subject to real estate taxes. They don’t have to conform to zoning restrictions that would apply to fixed structures, and they don’t have to meet HUD or other housing regulations. And while glamping tents are less durable than park models, they can be larger (park models are limited to 14-foot widths and 400 square feet), are substantially cheaper and can be more readily tarted up as glamorous camping accommodations.

And for now, at least, they can charge novelty prices of $300 and up per night.

That lure is so great that the glamping silliness has exploded. Even as it battles the Saugerties crowd, KOA is simultaneously developing a third Terramor resort, also in New York, and this time it’s reverting to its original approach of converting a former KOA campground. The Lake Placid/White Face Mountain KOA in Wilmington, closed for the season in October, is now being “moved up the road” 2.4 miles, according to KOA, and will reopen in the spring—albeit with fewer than half as many sites. Meanwhile, the former site, on Fox Farm Road, is being repurposed as a Terramor Outdoor Resort, with 80 glamping sites, a main lodge with a restaurant, a pool, pavilion, wellness cabin and staff housing.

The Wilmington plans, it should be noted, call for glamping sites that “will consist of both insulated tents and ‘hard-sided’ units,” which the design narrative explains are “to resemble a tent, but with walls and a roof” so they can be used in winter. In other words, ersatz tents of up to 900 square feet—hard-sided “tents” imitating “glamping tents” imitating the kind of tents that you can buy at REI, in a regressive progression whose next step can be nothing less than a motel shaded by a large piece of canvas strung from a series of telephone poles.

Competition from Clear Sky Resorts

Meanwhile, underscoring that this is not just KOA running amok, its Bar Harbor Terramor Resort may be about to get some competition across the bay, in nearby Lamoine, Maine. Clear Sky Resorts, a glamping outfit based in Arizona, wants planning board approval for a 90-site “dome glamping camp” with an onsite restaurant, pool, spa, wedding venue and employee housing, but town officials kicked back its application earlier this month, saying it provided incomplete information about water and sewer use. Clear Sky supposedly will be back Feb. 6 with a second effort.

As with KOA’s “tents,” the camping domes Clear Sky wants to erect are huge—660 square feet—and an additional 13 domes intended for staff lodging, wedding venues, a restaurant and other uses presumably will be even larger.

Back in Saugerties, local residents are pushing the planning board to request a State Environmental Quality Review Act assessment from the New York Department of Environmental Conservation—an outcome that could result in KOA having to prepare a draft environmental impact statement. KOA has until Feb. 21 to respond to the volley of concerns it received last week at the planning board hearing, with board members saying it will take months to reach some kind of decision—so stay tuned. There’s more needless drama to come.

Andy Zipser is the author of Renting Dirt, a first-person account of what it was like to own and operate an RV park for eight years and Turning Dirt, a step-by-step guide for those who want to find, buy and operate an RV park of their own. The essay above first appeared on his blog, Renting Dirt.



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1 month ago

So what’s the big deal? Don’t like the concept or the cost, don’t patronize. This article, like some RVrs, seems to have an axe to grind.

Last edited 1 month ago by GrumpyVet
1 month ago

We have a list of KOA s to never, ever, ever under any circumstance, pull into again.

On the other hand, we also have a list of KOA s that we frequently stay with and will continue to enjoy in the future.

Prefer to judge them individually for what they are, or are not.

California Carpenter
1 month ago

I’ve been parked at a KOA in the low desert for 9 months. There are 3 of the glamping tents directly across the street from my space. They seem to be preferred by Asian families and biker gangs like the Vagos. Never any problems that I’m aware of.

1 month ago

This kind of behavior was all foreseen when Marcus Lemonis had Camping World, with their horrendous reputation for greed, dishonest marketing, and pig-headed tactics, buy KOA in the first place. Like the scorpion said to the frog after stinging it fatally midstream, “You knew what I was when you decided to give me a ride.”

1 month ago
Reply to  Cal20Sailor

Well Said!

Dom Burns
1 month ago
Reply to  B N S

Camping World bought and owns *Good Sam*, not KOA.

KOA is a franchisor, the majority of KOA parks are owned by franchisees. Like many franchises, some parks are owned by individuals, while other franchisees own a number of KOA parks.
KOA Inc have been increasing the number of “KOA” parks they own themselves, and expanding with the Terramor glamping project- which KOA owns but do not operate under the KOA brand.

Good Sam was traditionally a marketing and “review” program that made it’s money by selling Guidebooks (and ads within) and memberships. Under Camping Worlds ownership, it is more of a marketing arm for Camping World.

captain gort
1 month ago

I’ve tried to avoid KOA whenever possible. Way overpriced for what you get and often a “zoo” to boot……

Lee Ensminger
1 month ago

KOA properties are always my option of last choice. I will go practically anywhere else first, and I don’t see that changing in the future.

1 month ago

I guess the author really does not like glamping. At every possible time calling it things like “silliness.” There must be a market for this “silliness.” I understand if neighbors do not like a specific place being developed because of environmental concerns. Not because you do not appreciate the business model or the type of camping going in there. Maybe it is more like a hotel. Who cares? If you do not like the way the property tax laws work for temporary structures, get those laws fixed. Don’t blame businesses for following the rules set out. I guarantee that the State and local government will collect more property tax money after the place is developed than they are now. Those are based on value and if the park does well, the value of the property will be much higher and the taxes will be higher as well. This article comes off as a news piece. It is really just a one sided opinion piece from someone who does not like this fancy glamping business model.

David McCreary
1 month ago
Reply to  Robb

I agree that the author has a bone to pick with KOA. We have enjoyed our many stays over the years with them. To each his own.

1 month ago
Reply to  Robb

I agree with all you said, except the part where you say it “comes off as a news piece”. It CLEARLY states this is an opinion piece. So, read it through that filter.

Change is opposed by many, for different reasons.

1 month ago
Reply to  Duane

You are totally right about it saying OPINION right at the top. I think I was saying his righting style was coming off as if this was a news piece. But again, the way he wrote it and the words he used, certainly not a news piece.

Bob p
1 month ago

Maybe someone should check the records to see if Thor may have bought KOA. Sure sounds like a business practice by Thor. Lol

1 month ago
Reply to  Bob p

Is Marcus involved too? I guess we’ll find out when the “tent” leaks and ruins someone’s Louis Vitton glamping luggage

1 month ago
Reply to  Dan

:-)))) Now that’s funny right there. Love it! Maybe Marcus’ new show can come in and he can pretend to do some renovations!

1 month ago
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