Wednesday, February 1, 2023


The dysfunctional RV industry and you. Part 5

Read Parts One and Two.
Read Part Three.
Read Part Four.


How Fifth Wheel Trailers have ruined RVing

Today, about 85 percent of all RVs sold are towables. At the low end are popups and short (24 feet or less) travel trailers. Many are lightweight, cheap, and can be towed easily by the family car. What this means is that anyone of even modest means with an SUV, lightweight truck or even four-cylinder automobile can own an RV.

Camping World and many other dealers will gladly finance even the least-expensive trailer for 12 to 15 years (and 20 years on some), which is far beyond the life expectancy of most. Plenty of naive buyers fall for this, and I suspect most regret it later for reasons I have explained elsewhere.

In the RV industry, as in every other American manufacturing business, “bigger is better,” which in the RV world can also mean “more new gizmos and gadgets is better.” Every year RV manufacturers try to outdo their competitors with new features. In the process of doing so year after year, they have created “mobile homes” — vehicles as suitable for “living” as traveling. I am referring mainly to towable RVs, although luxury motorhomes fit the bill, too.

Today’s large fifth wheels and travel trailers are so comfortable they could easily be compared in how they’re used to “mobile homes” of yesteryear. The difference is that present versions can be easily moved from place to place with a pickup truck or other passenger vehicle. It was a big deal to move a mobile home: They were designed to stay in one place, and usually did.

Think about the RVs (travel trailers mostly, and early motorhomes) from the mid-20th century: They were downright primitive. Few people could live in one full-time without sacrificing most creature comforts. And few did. Oh, yes, there were trailers back then that were used as homes, and they could be easily towed from place to place. But when residents of many low-end parks became labeled “trailer trash,” the vehicles were rebranded as “mobile homes.” Today, they are known as “manufactured homes.”

Full-time mobile home “RVing” in the 1960s.

Fast forward to today. Even an $80,000 fifth wheel trailer can be equipped with multiple slide-outs, a residential refrigerator, fireplace, big screen TV, outdoor kitchen, heated floors, soaking bathtubs, wine cooler, built in vacuum, washer and dryer, dishwasher and, increasingly, two bathrooms. They’re as comfortable as most traditional homes or condos — and at a fraction of the cost — and they come fully equipped with all basic appliances and furniture. And no property taxes to pay, either!

In 2016, shipments of fifth wheel trailers surpassed Class A motorhomes almost four to one. In 2017, shipments climbed to more than 4.5 to one. In January 2020, fifth wheel shipments were nearly five times greater than motorhomes. In other words, of the two most popular full-timer rigs — fifth wheel trailers and motorhomes — the popularity of fifth wheel trailers is growing faster.

The reason: They sell for far less than a motorized RV and, per foot, offer more living space. Of course, with no engine they are far less expensive to maintain. The federal government, by the way, allows the owner of any self-contained RV to write off the loan interest the same as if it were a home mortgage (check with your accountant).

Even though shipments of conventional travel trailers are far greater than fifth wheels, from my observations, fifth wheel trailers are overwhelmingly more popular with full-timers. It’s easy to live in one without sacrificing any creature comforts. The advent of the toy hauler option meant abundant storage space, serving much the same function as a garage back home. You can, with one of these RVs, “take it with you,” as many full-timers do.

This Montana fifth wheel trailer is as comfortable as any small home.

RV manufacturers, by adding new creature comforts every year, have made the RVs so comfortable that people who might have otherwise bought a vacation cottage or second home at the beach or in the mountains buy an RV instead. Why build a second home that doesn’t move, when you can buy one (fully furnished, of course) that’s equally comfortable and for far less money, that you can move on a whim to the ocean, a mountain lake or into the warm desert in the winter?

Or maybe you could just park your home in a senior retirement park, maybe one in the Southwest or Florida in the winter and then back up North in the summer. Not a bad life. . .

A new fifth wheel trailer, the Paradigm by Alliance RV, is being promoted for full-time RVing, even though the RV Industry Association states that recreational vehicles are for temporary living.

RVs are, by definition, made for “temporary living.” That’s according to the RV Industry Association. Yet they are now being advertised as “full-time ready.” Some insurance and extended warranty policies will not cover full-time living. That will likely change, but for now any new full-timers should read their policies carefully. Thousands of current full-timers who believe they are insured are not. In an accident they could lose their life savings.

Also, a comfy fifth wheel trailer is almost made to order for families where the breadwinner travels. That means pipeline workers, wind machine crews, or construction workers on temporary assignments. An RV can be a comfortable home for traveling nurses and for entrepreneurs who can work from anywhere because of modern communication technology. There’s no need for a worker to leave his or her family behind at home and rent a motel or apartment. With the RV, he or she can bring the family along wherever an assignment awaits and then easily move on to the next one.

The downside for you and me to this ease of mobility for temporary workers is that RV parks across America, once popular with RV travelers, are now heavily occupied seasonally or even year-round by these nomadic workers who need a space with full hookups. In some cases, as I have noted before, companies rent an entire RV park for their workers. The result is that just dropping into an RV park on a whim for RV “travelers” is far harder: Reservations, often far in advance, are necessary far more often than not.

Fifth wheels, all in a row, is a common sight these days.

So when I say fifth wheel trailers are “ruining” RVing, I am not talking about the RVs themselves. Frankly, if I weren’t so nomadic by nature, I’d buy a fifth wheel trailer as my only home.

No, I am referring to a fifth wheel’s incredible comfort, and how appealing it can be to make one your home — not for recreational purposes but for living purposes. And because so many fifth wheels are being sold for “living” — for RVers who travel to camp or see the sights, available space in RV parks is increasingly unavailable. The idea of “going where you want when you want” as advertised by the RV industry a big, fat joke — a leftover slogan from yesteryear that should be retired.

Of course, full-timers live in motorhomes and traditional travelers as well. But when I look into my crystal ball, I see more full-time RVers opting for fifth wheel trailers in the years ahead.

And it’s these RV owners’ long-term occupation of RV park spaces that I believe will ruin RV travel for those who travel with the purpose of “going where they want when they want.” I see the future of RVs being more as about RV “living” than RV “traveling”.

NEXT SATURDAY: I’ll sum up my thoughts.



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Len Yancey
2 years ago

What the industry really needs is more developers interested in building RV parks and not just resorts, and manufacturers interested in building quality RVs. Someday it will happen.

Gene Bjerke
2 years ago

I formerly sailed, and it seems the situation was that marinas were filled with boats kept there permanently. However, most marinas reserved a few slips for transients. It would be nice if campgrounds also kept a few sites available for people passing through. That would be on a “first come, first served” basis. I suspect those sites would be filled every night.

2 years ago

Firstly, I want to thank the author for all of your contribution, as I usually really like these articles, but this one was very one sided. So I would like to provide both with no malice towards either side.

I live full time in an RV park paying monthly. Most people in the park are as well. I have a 32ft bumper pull travel trailer behind my 16ft box truck, which might as well be considered in the same category as the gigantic fifth wheels and motorhomes. As the article argues, I do have all the comforts of home, especially with the box truck as storage similar to a house garage. But why is that bad? You listed all of those advantages like it was the reason for ruining the industry. But the manufacturers still make and offer all different sizes with and without all the features. And the park owner seems quite happy with the terms. Surely making slightly more money from a daily rate is not worth all the time and effort of dealing with new people coming and going constantly, and possibly not renting every day. Also we take care of the park more because we live there.

Then there is the other side of traveling the country hopping place to place maybe just a few days each destination. The classic “where you want, when you want”, which I can also do with my setup. I have no problem leaving my full utility hook ups behind and boondocking in remote and beautiful locations, which is the only way I want to really travel anyway. Why would the true traveller want to try to make reservations and post up in the suburbia of a standard RV park? If I’m in the mood for traveling, there is no shortage of amazing locations with lots of boondocking space, no reservations needed.

I think it’s great that RVs can be a more financially achievable version of owning your own home and staying in one place. And if you don’t enjoy boondocking in georgeous and often free locations, then you shouldn’t expect to be able to travel with that same level of freedom and availability. At the same time, for those that can’t just boondock everywhere, I understand. Some are traveling with large families that simply don’t have the resources to go without utilities and stores close by. Most of those families are just traveling seasonally and already plan their trips and reservations months in advance. I can also confirm in Florida, new parks are currently on the rise ready to fill all the new demand. RV living does not have to directly interfere with RV traveling.

Next project, solar, for even less reliance on RV parks!

Len Yancey
2 years ago
Reply to  ElectricT0mat0

Electric TOmatO, your last sentence is the current problem. RV living does in fact interfere with RV traveling. I’m not blaming as my true desire is to dump my sticks and bricks and do what you do. But until I can talk the boss into it RV traveling is made more difficult by having to have reservations so far in advance that the romantic notion of easy moving is lost, not just because of full timers, but the popularity of RVing in general. The growth in RV parks has not kept up with the sales of RVs in general so full timers just exacerbate the situation. I hope to join you in the minimalist lifestyle one day. Until then, happy trails.

Pete and Joyce Rosa
2 years ago

The RV industry is in shambles. Even in high dollar units they cannot build without a myriad of problems, this is across the board. The other night I was talking to a retired police officer moving through an RV resort where we reside. He has the same 2018 REDWOOD model 5th wheel that we own. He said he has had over 80 problems including major problems like bearing failure, bent axle, slideout tearing up floor. I have been RVing since 1968 when I bought an 18 foot Mobile Scout in college. I have owned Class C, Newmar and Holiday Rambler 5th wheels that I pulled on circuses. I have never had the problems people are experiencing today, and am leary of touring with our REDWOOD 3881 ES. A powerful association for RVers should be formed. There is power in associations. I worked for the largest music association, and for Warner Bros. Music. Pete Rosa

Wicked Ace
2 years ago

I joined the RV world full time 2 1/2 years ago when I retired. I was and still am looking to fulfill the wanderlust I’ve had since I was a teenager. I see more and more the issues and problems you are discussing. There is one thing I do see that you haven’t touched on at least not yet. You did talk about reservations and the need to be ready to hit send on your computer. But what about all those spaces that are empty although a campsite may be fully reserved? I started going to a state campsite in Rhode island two years ago and by luck got in for two nights. About 20 percent of the sites were empty. I got wise, reserved a spot for last summer while I was there. Again I was stunned by the number of sites empty for days even weeks, at a time because someone made a reservation and didn’t use it. Don’t get me started on Reserve America.

Len Yancey
2 years ago
Reply to  Wicked Ace

The same thing happens Oregon where my wife and I love to visit. You can’t extend your stay because the sites are reserved and they don’t open them up until the end of the second day of no show.

2 years ago

I am responding to this article … The dysfunctional RV industry and you. Part 5 (3/8/20)

Chuck, I love what you do with RV Travel and I’m usually supportive of your articles, however, I feel compelled to react to your recent article. I’m not angry, I just want to offer some other thoughts.

RVers know how it’s getting much more difficult to find available parking spaces and you keep telling us how many personal problems you have encountered but, this time you aimed your gun at me and accused me of ruining the RV industry.

My wife and I wanted to buy a condo in a small town to have as our Winter retreat. After months of considering our options, we settled on a town we love. We previously owned a large estate in this town and sold it because it was too much upkeep and we did not utilize the two other houses on the property.

When I suggested we move back to this wonderful town in Southern Arizona, she said, “There are no condos for sale downtown.” My response was, “So we’ll buy one and bring it to town.”

We bought one of those “Monsters” that you call “An industry wrecker,” We bought a 44′ 5th wheel and had it delivered (we do not own a tow vehicle to move it). So now our winter home is a 1-bed / 2-bath, 425 sq. ft. luxury condo, with all those wonderful luxuries and conveniences you mentioned, permanently situated on The prime spot in the only RV park in town. We love it and every day people express their approval and jealousy that they didn’t think of it before us.

Chuck, I have always taken pride in my creative mind. I think outside the box. I find ways to get around, over or under hurdles. I haven’t done anything bad, illegal or against the rules and I certainly don’t want to ruin an entire industry. I just found a way to conveniently live with the options that were available to us.

Actually, as I read your article (opinion), I kept thinking, “Gee it sounds like Chuck is upset because he used to be able to write on paper from his Selectric typewriter, but now that there is this {bleeped} internet thing, everyone can write articles and millions of {bleeped} people can read them. It just isn’t right that all these people are breaking the rules by taking advantage of the way we live in the 21st Century.”

Think 21st Century Chuck. Maybe people are living in 5th wheels because:

1. Homes in the highly desirable locations are financially out of reach for the majority of people,
2. Some people don’t want the upkeep of a big house
3. We have very little maintenance
4. The money we save on property taxes goes to other things we want and need
5. At any time, if I feel like I want to experience living somewhere else, I just call a tow driver and move my home to a new adventure
6. We just don’t want or need a bigger house
7. We have chosen a more practical, fiscally sound housing alternative

The other thing you are overlooking is, the gentleman that has owned this RV park for 35 years has grown tired of fielding several phone calls from each would-be guest and answering all the same questions before they make a decision to stay for a night or two. He’s found a smarter way to avoid hearing all those same excuses of why people want to cancel their reservations. He has eliminated the heavy lifting of keeping track of reservations. And maybe most importantly. he now gets to enjoy cocktail hour every day because all his spaces are rented by full time RVers and 5th wheel owners. The rent comes in like clock work, he has no work to do and the neighbors (full-timers) take better care of his property than RVers who don’t care how they leave the place. Our neighborhood is now occupied by fun people, who take care of “The Hood” and we have friendships that add to our lives.

Bottom line, it seems to me that you don’t want me to have what I want and you don’t want the park owner to be happy … you want a parking space available for you, when and if you have a desire to pass this way? Who’s happiness is most important here Chuck?

I like you so I’ll offer a logical solution, join Harvest Hosts, RV Golf Club and/or Boondockers Welcome. You’ll find beautiful places to stay in your RV, at zero cost.

2 years ago

For an RV Park Owner it’s ALL ABOUT THE MONEY and the OCCUPANCY RATE at your RV Park. Just like the airline business if that plane takes off with an empty seat or that RV site is open for the night it’s completely lost revenue forever.

Having said that SHORT TERM RENTALS produce significantly “Mo Money” on a monthly basis than Monthly Rentals therefore why would anyone not want to rent a property or RV space on a Monthly basis?

I’ll answer that Question!

Bad RV park location? Area Weather on a Yearly Basis, Lazy Owner? Technology Ignorant Owner? Limited Site Development? We could go on and on about the reasons why owners choose the easy way out by choosing to rent RV spaces to long-term renters! All of these reasons can/could be overcome IF the owner wanted to or cared to do so.

We personally own and personally manage our Lake Home that is exclusively listed for Short Term Rental on VRBO. Based up on the homes value, location and ameneties this home could rent for $2000-$2500/month as a long-term rental. This month of March 2020 alone our lake home will generate over $6,500 in rental revenue and we are not yet “In Season”! It’s MARCH and our home is rented for 27 of the 31 days in the month! Yes we are in the South by not that far south! Our “Guests” also pay the clean-up fee for our housekeeper to clean the home over and over again after each and every rental. What a deal! Our home stays in excellent condition as a result. We did NOT purchase our lake home for the purpose of Short Term Rental HOWEVER why not short term rent the home when we are not using our Lake Home?

A RV park can be much more lucrative Dollar wise for the RV Park owner with short term rental that is basis upon less than weekly rentals. As with anything “Mo Money” means “Mo Work”! Most RV Park owners are LAZY!!! Show me the “Easy Money”! All the time forgetting that long-term renters will JUNK UP your property and cost you a lot “Mo Money” over the long term as long-term renters DO NOT CARE AT ALL about your property!

Yes there are many factors for RV Park owners to consider as mentioned earlier such as location, weather, improvements and lost rental nights. In my opinion in the end the RV Park owner is a BIG LOSER in choosing to rent to long-term tennant’s for all the reasons mentioned above.

IF we as short-term traveling renters can continue to talk about and convince RV park owners of the greater revenue potential of remaining a true short term rental RV park maybe just maybe the good ole days of just dropping in on a RV park for a nightly or several night stay might make a comeback!

Sandra Ross
2 years ago

The problem is not the 5th wheels but the parks who don’t set limits on the number of full time spaces or nights in a park. Like others we avoid those parks.

Ed Fogle
2 years ago

The long term residents don’t have to take over the whole park. I know a park near San Antonio that generally has short term availability but it’s less than desirable. The park has one area that is attractive. There are trees and grass. The rest of the place is nothing but an asphalt parking lot with hookups. Guess who gets the nicer area?

jane shure
2 years ago

I generally avoid RV parks like the plague. They are usually pack in too tight together or too {bleeped} costly. The roads are usually very narrow. I would rather stay at a walmart or a truck stop than many RV parks. I do not need things like swimming pools or rec centers. If I had to stay in expensive RV parks I would quickly go broke. Very rarely will I go to an RV park, maybe once every year or two. If a person looks very carefully he can usually find a place to park. If the area looks a little rough and I am am tired I will put mr smith and mr wesson on guard duty. I suggest you read the travels of tioga george. This guy traveled all over and did it with far less income than most of us. George was my inspiration and it was a sad day when he died. If you can, start with his blog from day one and read forward. I have solar panels on my roof and the only limitation is food and water including the holding tanks.

George if you are looking down at us you must be laughing. My hat is off to you.

David Gorin
2 years ago

Chuck, you are right on. Availability of recreational sites is being addressed by new RV park development in many parts of the country. It will take some time, but the private sector will fill the need in the near future. There is demand for vacation leisure RV sites and I think you’ll see more new parks coming on line. Not everywhere, but where they are most needed by RVers.

2 years ago

I guess since I’ve never lived the wonderful nomadic lifestyle of the RV world of days gone by, I don’t really miss it. I don’t mind planning trips in advance. The 15 or so trips I’ve taken abroad I have planned way in advanced because as a full-time employee I only had so many vacation days and also to get good airfare deals. It was the same when we took camping trips, even the short weekend ones. I always planned our many tent camping trips with the kids because in my experience the trips always go better when you’ve done a little planning 🙂

Our last two trips were to Death Valley in California and Monument Valley in Utah/Arizona. I made reservations for both campgrounds months in advance. Since I had some time before our trips began, I was able to research all the wonderful sites to see and experiences to experience. Did we have a good time? Not only good, we had a FANTASTIC time on both trips! We did lots of site seeing and hiking and we also had some down time to relax. Did I feel stifled because I had to plan a little in advance? No, I actually felt a little freer because of my research I knew all that the areas had to offer and could pick and choose what we wanted to do when we wanted (sound familiar?).

Life and society will always keep changing and I believe we are in a flux period right now. As the demand for more campgrounds becomes higher, I think eventually the number of campgrounds will increase. You know supply and demand economics. I mean even “Not in my backyard” California is getting a new State Campground!

For me, I will continue to plan in advance and if I can’t get in somewhere, I’ll go somewhere else and will still absolutely enjoy all of my camping experiences.

JR Thornton
2 years ago
Reply to  Suru

Being a weekender or a couple of weeks at a time camper are two different animals. We full timers can “go where the wind blows” (if we want). Come to a fork in the road and we have the choice to take it. I tend to take the roads less traveled and haven’t really experienced any problems with RV parks, But travel to very popular destinations will cause reservation problems and as you state those places by their very nature requires advance planning.

2 years ago

You DO pay property tax on a travel trailer. At least in SC you do.

Montgomery Bonner
2 years ago

Hello All, Chuck nailed it again. By far, we see more 5th wheels in all the places we go. And in lots of places in west TX you cannot find a spot, all taken up by the oil workers. If the COVID-19 keeps going, this will all change, oil prices are collapsing, and layoffs are coming, which means, workers loosing job, maybe losing the 5th wheel, and parks being empty again. There is a big QUESTION MARK ahead for the RV industry and the folks who own/purchase/use RV’s. No one knows how any of this is going to shake out. We are staying home until Mid May.

Diane Mc
2 years ago

We travel from CA to FL every year. On our way out we pretty much focus on getting to FL, with some extra days built in for weather. So we have are regular stopping places. Since we book our Florida stay (3 different places) when we leave every year we know our dates. A few years ago we would just call same day or maybe a day ahead to make sure we had a spot long enough for us so we wouldn’t have to unhook. Now, I do make them way ahead. So far going out the only place where it was needed was on the panhandle of Florida where they were turning people away when we arrived. On way back at same park, which we booked a week prior, we got the last spot. When we arrived, they had turned away 15 folks looking for a spot. A park we stay at west of Houston has gone from you can get in calling same day to probably will be difficult in the future. Said they are becoming a permanent site park. Lots of oil & gas workers. Told us we can call up to 3 weeks in advance in the future to see if they would have an overnight spot. Driving thru the area along I-10 from the LA border of Tx to after San Antonine most parks look filled with trailers and 5th wheels. Fulltimers or workers. That area is booming. Lots of building going on. Will try looking for a new spot for next year, but we also may just shorten our trips and stay in the Western part of Tx, NM & AZ. For those of us who enjoy using our RV’s as a way to travel and explore, it is getting more difficult. Fortunately we’ve been making this trip for 15 years and we were able to see a lot of the country because we didn’t have to worry about changing our minds on a whim of where we wanted to go. We also do a trip late spring, before schools are out for the Indy 500 and take different routes back. That is not quite as difficult, but still making reservations in advance. We feel so blessed to have done what we have….200,000 miles on this motorhome (since 2002), 100,000 on previous. Seen all of Canada, some of Mexico and all but 4 states. We just aren’t quite ready to totally give it up. We will see.

Randy Boschee
2 years ago

Been following the RV Travels newsletter and occasionally enjoying sections of it…Since much of the newsletter leans towards people who want full hookups, amenities and all the latest gadgets I tend to skim it looking for articles that are more general in nature or pertain to wild camping/boondocking. I am part of the % of your readers that like internet when we get it but when we don’t have it we do other things.

I read your latest series on the state of RVing in America and found it compelling until today.. Much of what you say is spot on, however the rational you gave for placing the blame for lack of camping spots on 5th wheels IMO didn’t validate the title. In reality your article dealt more with the mindset of todays RVers which I believe is the crux of the problem you are concerned about. I looked to see your research and facts to back up the title but found very little to actually that singles out 5th wheels

My pushback to this weeks segment is… its not about type of RV owned! Rather it’s about the people who own them and the their preferred camping style. In our first year of travels we actually encountered more people who travel in trailers, class C’s, and class A’s than 5th Wheels. As you know camping is much different today than when we were young (I’m 63) and not just in the number of RV’s on the road. Today instant information/communication is the norm. People “want what they want and they want it now.” They have to be able to run all their gadgets and basically bring their home and all their electronics including speciality cooking appliances with them when they camp. This reality applies to owners of Class A’s, Class C’s, 5th Wheels and TT’s. A second factor playing a role in fewer spots is length of time people are looking to stay in one place. RV’s have become an option for those who are still working and move around to work or are just hope to find cheaper living residences. As a result RV parks contain people who are more like homesteaders than camping. Private RV Park owners are also part of the problem! They cater too long term residents. They want their parks filled which is understandable. Maybe If more private RV parks had maximum allowed stays like public campgrounds (DNR, National, Corp of Engineer, etc) more spots might be available to those who are camping vs living.

For us the choice of a 5th Wheel over a Class A was about $$,$$$. We chose this route and paid cash for a older diesel truck and well built Carriage 5th Wheel (10’s of thousands less than the cost of similar year Diesel Pusher). We wanted diesel for fuel mileage, towing power, and better towing capacity so when we get into the mountains and have the power to adequately Tow and Stop without going over the GCWR. We also like having one engine so if we lose the truck for a week or two we find a place to park while the truck is getting repaired and save hundreds on a hotel room. We boondock 80% of the time in out of the way spots with a 35′ 5th Wheel. We invested in Solar and explore places that offer peace and quiet instead of staying in (can of sardines) RV parks or listening to generators most of the day. We explore and go to camping areas that have space for a big rig but w/o the hookups or amenities. BTW, we’re currently boondocking in a Florida National Forest for $4 a night!!! It’s beautiful, relaxing and quiet enough to hear the birds sing. We live and travel in our 5th Wheel staying a max of 7-14 days at any single location. We’re retired and not in a hurry and we have a set a fuel budget that guides our traveling. Last year 2019 (our 1st year) we drove a little more than 10K miles, this year we will only go 13-15K.

Again, it’s not the type of RV you own, it’s the people who buy them and lifestyle they desire to live! To each his own! Thanks for hearing me out…

2 years ago

I want a rv, i just don’t want one that will rot down before it is paid off. I can’t afford a 100 k for a airstream (the only one that i know of that don’t leak) I am stuck with my old pop up apache, because at 46 years old it still don’t leak and is not rotton. My uncle had a new travel trailer that rotted down in 5 years…. he sold it for $1000 . A RV dealer told me the problem was the same on almost all Rv’s.

2 years ago
Reply to  Glendon

Check out the Oliver travel trailers made in Hohenwald Tn , one piece fiberglass shell better than airstream

Cynthia Thomas
2 years ago

Ii need a personal loan not one to purchase a car I need some help.

2 years ago

As a full timer, aren’t you just as much a part of the problem as the workers staying in an RV park. The fact that you have been doing it longer doesn’t give you priority. Either group makes it harder for those passing through to find a spot. Nor should those passing through have priority over long term guests.

2 years ago
Reply to  JohnP

But the “R” in RV as I understand is for Recreational, no?

Larry McFadden
2 years ago

I would really enjoy some info about and a map of or a link to BLM land for camping in the northwest. Mostly because I know that the mega RV’s won’t stay there.
Thank you for your time,

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