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RV Daily Tips Issue 1100

May 13, 2019

Welcome to another fabulous edition of RV Travel’s Daily Tips newsletter. Here you’ll find helpful RV-related, and small-space living, tips from the pros, travel advice, a handy website of the day, our favorite RVing-related products and, of course, a good laugh. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate your readership.

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Used motorhomes: Better values

When buying a big motorhome the question is: buy new or used? If you want the best overall deal the hunt will be among the “previously enjoyed” RVs. Here’s why:
People trade in their units for different reasons: newer or improved equipment, TVs, heating systems, room slides, bigger or more efficient engine, more room, smaller size, etc. The list is long but the most popular reason is simply wanting a NEWER unit.

Winding up with a unit that was traded because it was a problem or “lemon” is unlikely. Not all owners maintain their unit to the same degree, but most owners care for their RV better than the average [item they own].

Worries about buying a bad unit can be minimized by buying from a reputable dealer. The dealer will take steps that ensure that all major components function as designed. The “debugging” process of a new unit is often more frustrating to the first owner than the issues found in a properly prepped and detailed pre-owned RVs.

There are just as many used units to choose from as new. While “new” dealers will say, “You can’t spec out and build a used unit,” most new unit buyers pick one off the dealer’s lot. Few actually ORDER a new unit.

When the papers are signed and the “new” unit becomes “used,” depreciation rears its ugly head. You don’t even have to turn the ignition key. It’s used and now worth considerably less. Why? Let’s say a dealer buys a new unit from the manufacturer and pays $100,000 and then sells it for $115,000. Now, if the next day you decide you want to sell back your once-new but now “used RV,” you won’t get $100,000. The dealer can buy another “new” one for that. To make a profit, he’ll need to buy it from you for considerably less. The price will vary by dealer, but in our scenario let’s say the dealer feels that for the unit to be competitive with similar new units he’ll need to sell it for $100,000. To cover overhead and a salesman’s commission, he’ll offer you $85,000 — a $30,000 loss in just one day! That outlook gets worse the longer you’ve owned the coach.

Now apply the same scenario to a used motorhome. If the wholesale value of the used unit was $100,000 when the dealer acquired it, it will still be worth that the next day, week or month. It will devalue over time but the new one would have also suffered more depreciation over time. The used RV buyer only loses whatever profit the dealer made to begin with in this example. From Motorhomes of Texas.

RV Electricity – This week’s J.A.M. (Just Ask Mike) Session:

Lightning safety while hiking.


Avoid the upset of tail dragging

Steep driveways cause your RV to “drag tail”? Best solution is to avoid them, but that’s not always possible. When entering or leaving a parking lot with a steep incline, angle your rig as much as possible – don’t take it “head on.” Drive slowly to avoid bouncing the rig.

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Insects and your RV

Bugs, birds, and bees: Cute in the wild, but lousy when they wind up in your exterior refrigerator or water heater compartments. Add “inspection and clean out” to your regular maintenance list.

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Put a foil cupcake liner over your cup (so it shapes to your cup) to keep bugs out of your drink at the campsite (or the beach, or the park, or a sporting event…). Read more about this brilliant hack here.


The best thing to do in every National Park

There’s some more “off the beaten path” stuff here in this long list from Fodor’s. We think this is one of the best lists around for National Park travel.

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Editor and Publisher: Chuck Woodbury. Managing editor: Diane McGovern. Contributing writers: Russ De Maris, Bob Difley, Gary Bunzer, Roger Marble, Mike Sokol, Greg Illes, J.M. Montigel and Andrew Robinson. Advertising director: Emily Woodbury. Marketing director: Jessica Sarvis. Financial affairs director: Gail Meyring. IT wrangler: Kim Christiansen.

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Rory R
3 years ago

Oh and re: the article about new vs used, I come down on the side of new. WE have had 4 rv’s 2 used, and the last 2 new. I had a 2010 Mountain Aire (purchased new) and my current rig is a 2017 Mountain Aire and I have had no major problems with either one. Depreciation is overrated, everything on wheels depreciates. The article in question came from Motorhomes of Texas, a very reputable dealer who sells “preowned” MH’s, mostly high-end Class A DP’s. Word.

Rory R
3 years ago

I suffered through that scenario of people leaving the CG laundromat with their clothes in the washer or dryer unattended. Then they would return well after the machine had stopped, and would be angry if someone had removed their clothes. We called them the laundromat nazis. When I purchased a new rig, my wife and I agreed that a stacked washer/dryer was a necessity. We no longer have that as an issue, and we no longer have to search for a laundromat in an unknown area if the CG does not have one. That is one of the best decisions we have made. We listened to friends who said that a washer/dryer was a unnecessary misuse of space. Well we love having our own and not having to search for one

Michele Beckler
3 years ago

You need a maybe on the tally. I would remove laundry if after 15-20 minutes after the cycle was done and no one came to switch it over. Otherwise I try to give some grace time to the owner of the clothes in question.

richard west
3 years ago

Driving a class A over things at an angle can pop the windshield and twist frames and doors. Was always told to take them head on.

Dick and Sandy
3 years ago

Before we had our present Class A that has a stacked washer and dryer, we spent many hours in countless campground laundry facilities. Unfortunately there are those that do not stay with their wash or drying clothes and left needed machines stagnant for up to 30 minutes. We did not remove the clothes from those machines. We complained at the campground office and they sent a worker to remove the clothes from those unattended machines. When the owner of those closes returned and wanted to know who removed their clothes, we told then that the campground personnel removed their clothing as they had violated the posted laundry room rules and are responsible for their own negligence.

Michele Beckler
3 years ago
Reply to  Dick and Sandy

Oh I like this idea of letting the campground host take the heat!!

Tim Bear
3 years ago

Just as valuable as the precaution to drive slowly over road bumps is one to be very watchful of deep roadside gutters and driveway cuts. When leaving a KOA in Cedar City UT, I went as cautiously as possible and still caught one of the rear stabilizer legs on our Class A. It bent the foot of the strut and actually ripped out two of the four bolts mounting the mechanism to the frame. Fortunately it didn’t bent the strut shaft. I had to order a new mounting block (got the very last one in stock!). A diesel shop swapped the mount and used a 40,000 pound press to straighten the foot. Good as new now but it’s just another road hazard I now watch for.

3 years ago
Reply to  Tim Bear

Haven’t stayed at a KOA since my 10 hr stay at the one in Cedar City, UT in 2008. Parked in a foot of snow and I used about $3.00 worth of power for the $42.00 charge. Did I have to stay there – no. Do I feel ripped off – yes.

3 years ago

We just bought a used unit! Want as in good of shape as we thought but we were lucky to have a great body shop for some paint (Straightline RV and Boat in Springfield and Cummins and Freightliner) Wound up spending $30K extra but have a GREAT unit now!
We have about $100K in a 2004 diesel pusher but it should last for years and we know all about it now!

3 years ago

If we were to buy another rv today I would surely buy used- an probably one built between ’06 and ’09.

Tommy Molnar
3 years ago

I’ve installed improvised screens over every opening on our trailer. Water heater, fridge, furnace, etc. I even wrap an old sock around the electrical cable where it enters the coach in that little door.

3 years ago

Don’t leave laundry unattended. If you need to leave for a bit, set a timer on your phone and return promptly to remove the clothes from the washer or the dryer.

Courtesy to others waiting for machines. We have seen clothes remain untouched for hours, and even overnight.

3 years ago

re washing clothes: yes have done so in past,
And will in future – common courtesy says stay with your clothes and remember there are other people in this world!

3 years ago
Reply to  John

Yes! Unfortunately common courtesy is sometimes rare these days.

3 years ago

Good item on used vs new RV sales. Although we just bought a new unit, if we could have found the size we were looking for (23ft) in the used market, that wasn’t dog eaten , kid abused etc we would have in a heart beat bought used. Our $111,000 unit we’d be lucky to get 80 K for, despite the fact it’s better than it left the factory we’ve home repaired two dozen faults that were built into this thing. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The RV industry needs a major policing authority (there’s currently nothing) to protect consumers from the crap they sell. Why do we keep buying these lemons is a tough one to answer. Maybe something to do with waiting a lifetime to hit the road?

3 years ago
Reply to  Alvin

Alvin…don’t wish for a government “policing authority” because they rarely work and cost a lot of tax money. The best “policing authority” is an informed and critical consumer. Do your due diligence before buying!

Ed D
3 years ago
Reply to  Alvin

You could sue if they made false claims about the condition of the RV

Jim c
3 years ago

I would not remove clothes from a washing machine except in one situation, if it is done washing and no one is around to claim it or put it in the dryer for more than 10 minutes after I get there to do mine, then I would put it in a container to await the owner.

3 years ago
Reply to  Jim c

Exactly. The poll didn’t stipulate if the clothes in the washer was done or not. If not done, I wouldn’t touch them….if they were done, and after waiting 10 – 15 minuets for the owners to come and remove them, I would most definitely remove them and put them in a dryer (if there was one). May even pay for the dryer.

3 years ago
Reply to  Ron

Jim & Ron, your both all to nice. While were were in ND, 4 years ago, the bride and I went to a laundry mat, all 4 super large washers were busy, one stopped we waited 10 min and asked if any one know whose cloths they were, no one knew. I proceeded to put them in a basket and put them in a corner. we did our loads and had put them in dryer (probably one hour later), a young couple (30 ish) came in asking who moved there cloths? All I did was pointed to the signs all over the shop stating “please stay with your laundry, so others can use machines” and told them there cloths were in corner. Well all I got was the BIRD and called an A–hole.

3 years ago
Reply to  Zipper

I’ve encountered this issue at campgrounds over the years. What I did was fold the person’s laundry after I took it out of the dryer and while mine was washing. Created some good will and I finished out the day “bird-free”. Of course, not all people will appreciate you touching their clothes. In that case, they need to stay with their beloved wardrobe.

Sam Shryock
3 years ago
Reply to  Elisa

Personnally I would have issue with you folding my laundry, and wouldnt be offended if you just moved them to a basket. Everyone is different. Then again, unless a unexpected situation occurred, I would probably not leave my laundry unattended. This is always a good time to do a little reading or catch up on internet.