Wednesday, February 1, 2023


Another example of how slobs are ruining our camping

This is why we all need to be responsible campers, and even go beyond the call of duty sometimes to clean up after the slobby Neanderthals in our midst.

With the shortage of available campgrounds and so many new RVers coming on the scene, the last thing we need is to lose more places to camp. A reader sent this photo of a sign at a Forest Service dispersed camping area as a reminder of what happens when too many slobs invade our public lands. —Chuck Woodbury


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Kurt Shoemaker Sr
2 years ago

Leave your campsite cleaner than you found it.
I learned this in the Boy Scouts and continue to practice it everywhere I camp.
However, I refuse to clean up cigarette butts. I will rake them over and burn them in the campfire if possible.

2 years ago

We have certainly seen a culture shift the likes we haven’t seen before (perhaps our parents did in the 60’s). We are now witnessing the voluntary takeover of huge sections of some of our cities, the unopposed destruction of long held family businesses, and the ensuing financial ruin of individuals as a result of as little as the score of a football or hockey game.

The litter and aftermath left behind by the few both in our cities and campgrounds, I believe, has transcended from everyday attitudes and lack of respect lost somewhere along the way.

I know that enforcement is the crux of my suggestion, but perhaps it is time for all government agencies responsible for administering public lands to institute a nominal fee for camping with strict enforcement?

Edward Guinn
1 year ago
Reply to  Rod

Fellow campers need to enforce.

2 years ago

It is false to assume that it’s all the new campers and RVers leaving these messes. Yes, There may be some of the newbs making the mess. There are also experienced Rvers and campers that habitually leave messes, as well.
But I think that the majority of the INCREASE in these instances can be blamed on itinerates that just don’t care about themselves, much less caring about the mess they leave behind. When I find broken bottles from super-cheap liquor and drug paraphernalia or human waste at a camp site, it’s not likely left behind by someone who’s camping in the great outdoors for legitimate recreational opportunities.
When campgrounds are closed to us because of these messes, those people will still be finding places to “camp” and make their messes.

Jesse Crouse
2 years ago

I am a plumber who does commercial service work. You can not believe the filth people leave in an area they don’t own. From sanitary filth to just general trash. Until these slobs are called out for their total lack of consideration publicly their habits will not change. I do cleanup after them- jobsite is cleaner when I leave than what I found it. My Mother’s voice is still in the back of my mind at 72. They are more than slobs; they are P–‘s. Oink, oink.

S Davis
2 years ago

Maybe taking photos of the infractions along with license plates might shame them out of their slovenly habits…

Mike Weigel
2 years ago

I’ve been enjoying RVTravel for about 7 years and appreciate the articles about rving. I agree that some of our ‘friends’ who leave behind trash are not RV friendly. And those that pick up other’s trash should be commended for going the extra mile.

But my concern is the following which appears in all RVTravel documents:
This newsletter is for intelligent, open-minded RVers. If you comment on an article, do it with respect for others.

Then in RVTravel today, we read: Another example of how slobs are ruining our camping. This is why we all need to be responsible campers, and even go beyond the call of duty sometimes to clean up after the slobby Neanderthals in our midst. …
—Chuck Woodbury

Is it ok to neglect respect of individuals on one side of the fence, but demand respect from the other side? Perhaps we all need to try to respect & appreciate others who may walk in very different shoes.

Leanne Hopkins
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

Respect is earned. The persons leaving this trash, garbage, waste, etc. IMO haven’t earned respect. I immensely respect the people who clean up after the slobs. You don’t have to have money to be clean and responsible.

2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

“Skinny Neanderthals” is as derogatory as many of the posts you declare off limits, Chuck. We need to discuss the facts of the issue, or even feelings, without calling names. A lot of these people are the same ones
Who throw their Starbucks coffee cup, or McDomalds hamburger bag out the window, with the excuse everyone else
Does it. It’s an issue that hasn’t been solved yet, and I fear that the pubic lands dumping problem won’t be solved either. To solve it, laws must be changed to put teeth in them. Then things like cameras etc are going to have to be used. Yes, it’s an invasion of our privacy, but we must make a decision.

Joel L
2 years ago
Reply to  John

John, we shouldn’t need more laws in order to do the right thing! I was taught to respect others and things, I taught my kids to respect others and things. Parents need to teach their children, not have the government do it for them. Teach by example, my friend. If by not teaching respect, why would they respect more laws, think about it!

D Haley
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

Tell them to change shoes or stay home. I camp to enjoy it not spend my time working picking up other people’s crap. Others pick up other people’s trash because it angers them or makes them sad or both and don’t want the privilege taken away that they have paid for. They are slobs and a discredit to the whole of the camping community. We’ll send them all over to your house to camp. Chuck is calling it like it is, An intelligent person wouldn’t leave a mess for others to pick up. There again up bring it starts at the roots.

2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

Mike, would you have respect for your neighbor if he threw all his garbage over your fence into your yard everyday? Sorry but I have NO RESPECT and DON’T APPRECIATE people like this!

Jopel L
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

I’m sorry Mike, but respect is earned, not demanded! Being a contractor, I see this on almost a daily basis, young teens demanding respect from their parents and not showing them respect. If people are not taught how to respect people and things around them while they are young, they will just continue when they are older. People that trash these areas that others want to enjoy, obviously haven’t earned the respect they may want or at some point had.

Sink Jaxon
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Weigel

Mike, I’d be willing to bet you never have seen a trashed out campground and how filthy some people can be. Your virtue signaling does not inspire, but nice try…

Glen Cowgill
2 years ago

I visit friends who own a campground in Michigan. I have done daily rounds, with the owner, and am amazed with what I have seen from broken bottles in the fire pits, litter everywhere and tree limbs broken to initials carved into trees. When I was a child, long time ago, I would have been spanked for lesser infractions.

I was in WV in a campground a few years ago and was next to the most obnoxious campers you could ever be near with their little brats running through my campsite, begging for milk and the mother just sitting there surrounded by trash.

I sure wish someone could come up with an answer because every time I say something, I get told to mind my own business. I love the out doors and have been camping since in the late 1940’s.
We as children, were always taught to leave the campsite better than we found it, as if no one had ever been there.
I am saddened to see what is happening today.

Renee Galligher
4 years ago

We love boondocking and when we arrive at an area where others have left their trash, we put on gloves, grab a yard bag and pick it all up. Doesn’t matter that we didn’t leave it, we want to leave it cleaner when we leave.

4 years ago

Just went to NYS forest in the Adirondacks with disbursed camping. I was ashamed. Too bad the people who use these spots aren’t. Fire pit heaped and smoldering with diapers, plastic juice bottles, rubbish spilling out. Outhouse a disaster with toilet paper and paper towels all over, duct taped toilet seat. We have decided to pick up after these situations and will keep garbage bags in our vehicles.

Traveling Man
4 years ago

Unfortunately, those same “Slobs” never read articles like this. In fact, many probably don’t read period. Big brother has the equipment to watch over these campgrounds and arrest or ticket those who cannot seem to comply. You and I cannot stop it. It’s a sad day and inevitably it will give the government a reason to shut down free and wonderful camping. Just wait…

Eric Meslin
4 years ago

Currently in a NY state park. Just watched my neighbor leave their tent with a “chamber pot” and dump in the bushes. I guess 100 feet to dump in a flush toilet is just too far.

2 years ago
Reply to  Eric Meslin

We need to start nudging these folks to do it correctly and reporting them with evidence photos Or we’ll all lose the privilege of using land that we don’t personally pay taxes on or for.

D Haley
2 years ago
Reply to  Traveler

Did we stop paying taxes. Yahoo

Judy G
4 years ago

Having been a full-time RVer for over 10 years, I always make it a practice to pickup litter and waste that others have dropped. My theory is that seeing litter sends the message, “Everybody’s doing it.” Perhaps seeing clean areas also sends a message to keep it that way.

4 years ago
Reply to  Judy G

Hooray! Let’s all do that! Peer pressure works!

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