Dear Dave,
My wife and I are looking into a fifth wheel purchase. I was wondering if we have to get a 3/4-ton pickup or higher? Or can I tow a fifth wheel with a 1/2-ton pickup? Thanks for any consideration! —Steve, 2021 Forest River Salem FSX
Dear Steve,
There is a difference between towing legally and towing safely, in my opinion. I conduct seminars at RV shows and see the signs all over the place stating “half-ton towable.” Technically, I guess they can state that if you just look at the numbers. So, can you tow a fifth wheel with a 1/2-ton pickup? Technically, yes, but…
I have a 2016 Chevrolet Silverado with a 5.3L gas engine with a crew cab. According to the 2016 Trailer Life Towing Guide, my truck can pull 10,700 lbs. For the past 20+ years, I have worked with the RV Education & Safety Foundation (RVSEF) helping to develop their comprehensive safety program that includes towing guides and especially matching truck to trailer. They recommend not going to maximum weight when towing, but rather reducing it by at least 10 percent as you do not want maximum weight behind you when trying to stop on a hot day or in the mountains. It’s also nice to have a little “oomph” when trying to go up a 6 percent grade. If you are at maximum weight behind you, there’s not much oomph left in the tank. However, I should be able to safely tow 9,630 lbs.
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
All RVs that belong to the RVIA certification program have a weight sticker that will indicate what the unit weighs unloaded (UVWR, or Unloaded Vehicle Weight Rating) and what cargo weight you can include. This is known as the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR), which is the maximum weight the unit can weigh including water, propane, and cargo.
Looking at these “half-ton towable” units, I see several that list a GVWR at 9,000 lbs. and up to the 9,630 lbs.—such as this example of a Flagstaff model. Even some of the heavier models could be towed if I did not put the whole 2,000 lbs. or more of cargo in the unit and stayed under my goal of 9,630 lbs.
Other weight factors
However, there are other factors to consider such as the hitch weight of the rig and what that will do to my truck’s Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR). This unit unloaded has a hitch weight of 1,165 lbs. and most likely much more when I load the bedroom closet and that huge compartment in the front! According to the data plate, my truck has a GAWR on the rear of 3,950 lbs. I have not weighed it to see what my actual weight capacity is. However, I have found most posts indicate the weight capacity is 2,000 lbs.
Of course, my dealer says I can put as much weight in the back as I want! Don’t guess! If I can put 2,000 lbs. in the back and stay under GAWR, then that means there is only 1,950 lbs. on the back end unloaded. Get the actual weights and make sure you know what you are putting in the truck. Also, remember you need to factor in people and that generator you stuck in the back because there wasn’t room in the rig!
Safe towing may not equal good performance of tow vehicle
I have not towed a fifth wheel with my truck as I do not want to install the hitch. But I have towed dozens of trailers and have found that even though I am well under the safe towing weight, I am not happy with the performance of the truck with anything over 6,000 lbs. First, the back end sags considerably, even with less than 1/2 the hitch weight, as it is designed for a smooth ride and has softer springs. My older truck had the Z71 package, which had beefier springs and did not sag. If I were to do any amount of towing, I would add airbags to even out the truck to the trailer, which I have done several times with other trucks. Note, the airbags do not increase any weight capacity!
I ran a company for the past 10 years that had three trucks and trailers covering the country and each put on about 100,000 miles per year. We learned a lot about towing, bearings, and tires the hard way! The F-350 and Chevy 3500 performed the best with the 8,000-lb. trailers and even the 10,000-lb. gooseneck.
Engine performance
Even if you are able to stay substantially below the safe towing weight and the back end can handle the hitch weight, another concern is the power of the gas engine and, more importantly, the torque. A few years ago we purchased a Ford F-250 with the Triton V10 engine. We thought it would handle the 8,000-lb. trailer easily, since it was the same engine powering the larger Class A units at 22,000 lbs. On the first trip out, the truck got 6 mpg and could only hit about 45 mph on a 6 percent grade! My Chevy truck is not much better, although it does get a little better mpg. But the goofy 8-speed transmission is a joke and can’t seem to figure out what gear to use!
A question for you…
I get accused of this a lot, so I’ll add that technically, yes, you can safely tow with a 1/2-ton pickup and gas engine. However, you might not be happy with the performance. And keep in mind that the F-250 was a 3/4-ton unit but the gas engine failed miserably, in my opinion.
Let’s hear from our readers that have gone through the trials and tribulations of 1/2-ton towing. Leave a comment, please.
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An emergency braking experience would not be fun with 1/2.
These types of questions are similar to towing with propane off or on. Technically speaking, yes but safely speaking, depends on who you ask. Also, what about the size of the cargo bed, short or long, with regards to pulling a fiver with a 1/2T?
So, once again, a discussion of towing capacity with no mention at all of truck payload rating. Payload limit is almost always the limiting factor in terms of towing capacity.
I agree. I had 2500 ram with a gas engine and had trouble maintaining 50-55 mph. Switched to a f250 with powerstroke and was immediately pleased. The suspension was a little wimpy and now I have a F350 drw….. bigger IS better
That would be a fun emergency stop.
And as we always say, the question is not so much about if you can tow it. It’s about if you can stop it.
This seems to be a ongoing topic, I think it depends on so many factors,
Load capacity being the main factor, I have seen so many large trucks with big trailers being towed going 80 mph, something happens you are not going to stop in a hurry, no matter what size truck you have.
First if you are full time, contract worker, with all your belongings in a trailer, traveling across country large truck for sure. Then you have to look at budget, For those of us who are not full time, retired , fixed income, The right set up and trailer, A 2024 1/2 ton works, I am retired so i am lucky i am not in a hurry, take my time, weathers bad, i stay put, The main thing in any conversation is tow safety.
I saw no mention of the GCVWR. Shouldn’t this be one of evaluation factors?
A few years ago I was towing a loaded tandem axle cargo trailer through Grants Pass , Oregon. Coming up on a yellow signal light I was preparing to stop when a young ding bat girl quickly pulled in front of me and stopped. It’s a good thing this trailer was new and had good brakes and my truck was an F-250 as I applied both feet to the brake and locked the trailer brakes up. I came within a few feet of pushing that girl through the stop light. Moral of the story is one can never have too much truck..especially when towing any trailer. That and common sense.
Thank you, Dave! Have a great day, safe travels, and safe stays! 🙂
The other item to consider is gas mileage. I started towing with a 1/2 ton truck and 7k trailer. If bucking any kind of wind I got ~7 miles to the gallon and ran about 2300 RPM. So I could only drive about 150 to 160 miles then have to gas up, a little over 2 hours. On a typical 400 mile drive I had to fill up 3 times which ends up adding quite a bit of time to the trip.
I now have a 3/4 ton gasser and a 9k 5th wheel. Get about 10 miles to the gallon at 1800 RPM. It has a 35 gallon gas tank so I can run 300 miles/ 4 hours which is about the time to get out and stretch and take care of business.
In the 90’s we had a 24′ TT towed by an F150 with a V8. I was within all the weight limits, but the performance in all but perfect conditions sucked. In a strong headwind I was limited to 45 or 50 mph on flat terrain! Never again.
We bought a 34′ 5ver in 2006 and a Silverado HD 2500 with the Diesel and 6 sp Allison. Great performance and averaged 12.2 mpg (I don’t push speed and usually do 60 mph.)
Despite that, I wish I had gotten the 1 ton dually version. Go more for a pickup. In the long run you will not regret it.
Still have the Silverado.
I have a Chevy 3500 Dually diesel long bed to tow a 35′ Montana. 12,000 lbs empty, 4,000 lbs cargo capacity.
I usually am at about 14,500 – 15,000 lbs loaded. Up and through the Rocky Mountains of Colorado is a breeze, especially on the long downhill runs where the engine brake does nearly 100% of the work.
So safe.
FYI, DO NOT under truck folks!
In 2004 I bought my last truck or so I thought
F250 ex cab short box 2nd 10 cylinder .perfect! Until we were in Arizona at altitude
Foot to the floor, going uphill 15 mph. After struggling,my wife said “ when we get home you’re getting a diesel. What a difference. It didn’t even breathe hard
1/2ton truck forget about.