Is it okay to play Taps in the evening at an RV park?

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An RVer named Darrin has posted in at least two Facebook groups about his patriotic playing of Taps each evening in an RV park. He uses his outside speakers to amplify the bugle call while he lowers the large American flag he flies over his RV. He asked the question, “Is that rude or is that acceptable to most?”

More than 2,000 people commented on one of his posts – some saying it was perfectly fine, and in fact it was a wonderful way for him to show his appreciation of our country and the military. Others replied that while they, too, loved our country, it was not an appropriate place to play the traditional military call.

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What do you think? Please answer the poll below, and feel free to leave a comment.

And, by the way, according to Wikipedia, one version of the origin of the word “taps” comes from the Dutch taptoe, meaning “close the (beer) taps (and send the troops back to camp).”


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Brent McDonald
Brent McDonald

Were having a discussion about the wrong tune. Retreat is the appropriate tune played in the lowering of the flag at the end of the day. Taps well that’s for something else

Al
Al

I lean toward “No it is not OK to stand outside and play a loud noise with a Bugle, even more so if it is amplified.”
There is a time and place for everything. Just because it is Taps doesn’t automatically give someone a pass on making noise.
What if I wanted to make some other sounds or music to celebrate a particular time of day? Who gets to decide what is appropriate and what is not?

CHARLES COX
CHARLES COX

Camp at Knob Noster SP near Warrensburg MO. The park is located next to Whiteman AF base and if you listen closely, you can hear both reveille and taps.

Jeremy Pratt
Jeremy Pratt

Natural volume, sure; amplified blasting out of speakers no.

Jim
Jim

The question should be about the volume, not the song. If it is ok to play Taps at an amplified volume, then it is ok to play any music at an amplified volume. I don’t mind you playing your favorite music as long as I don’t have to listen to it.

Tom Edelman
Tom Edelman

There is a time and place for everything. I am a vet and love my country but….Taps at a public campground? no way.

R. Wagstaff
R. Wagstaff

I personally am NOT offended by it, but showing your patriotism by flying our flag seems more appropriate!

John Koenig
John Koenig

Any AMPLIFIED sounds other that warning sirens (severe storms, tornadoes etc) should be UNACCEPTABLE. Perhaps this camper should stay ONLY at military facilities. If a campers’ TV, stereo etc can be heard outside of the site he paid for, it needs to have its’ volume lowered.

Tom Edelman
Tom Edelman

Agree John from another DX3 owner.

sharon B
sharon B

I think its ok to play Taps

marty chambers
marty chambers

If you want to play soldier go camp at a military camp. I camp for peace and quiet.

Bill
Bill

On smaller ships the Boatswains Mate blew taps on his pipe (a sort of whistle – wheeeeee-oooooh-wheeee-whoop with a trill) and announced “Taps, taps, lights out! All hands turn into your bunks! Maintain silence about the decks! The smoking lamp is out in all berthing spaces. Now taps.” Maybe the maintain silence part should be stressed in the campground.

P Cleveland
P Cleveland

I responded “no” because he employed an amplifier. This makes it rude. Would have no objection if “ natural” volume.

Mark C Schaffler
Mark C Schaffler

Think this shows the percentage of veterans you have on this site. Always wish Chuck would conduct a poll
here asking how many members are veterans.

Vanessa Simmons
Vanessa Simmons

I did not answer because: Taps should be played at night as a “lights out” signal and not to bring down the flag. On military bases the national anthem is played as the flag is slowly lowered. If played at the appropriate time it would be late and people might be sleeping. It is a sad song and could cause grief for those who recently lost a soldier, sailor, marine, airman, or coast guardsman be they young or old as it is played at the funeral. Play it through your ear buds or very low so only those in your… Read more »

Nancy
Nancy

Thank you Vanessa Simmons for your service to our country. Thank you for your respectful and clear words pertaining to taps, lowering our flags, and touching on the sadness taps can evoke in many of our hearts. Great suggestion on ear buds. Personally, flying our flag offers me satisfaction in country pride.
Joymous

Tom
Tom

I’m a Navy vet and Playing of Taps is a wonderful way to end the day and lowering the flag. No amplification should be used. This would be most appropriate as daylight extends and many RV may be retired to bed for a early start the next day.

Rory R
Rory R

Taps is the incorrect song for lowering of the flag at the end of the day. Most folks who are non military wouldn’t know what the correct procedure is, even if the correct song were played any way. That would be confusing to most, and annoying to others. Fly the flag over your RV or find some other appropriate manner of showing your love for this country…

Captn John
Captn John

After reading all comments 2 main reasons I enjoy CGs on military installations come to mind. I really enjoy hearing the bugle. The general whining public are not present.

Nina Soltwedel
Nina Soltwedel

I think it is a lovely way to end the day, and would appreciate hearing it. For those of us who lost family members in war, it is also a moment to pause, reflect, and remember. Only twenty-four notes long, but it sparks many memories. However, I would urge the gentleman to not amplify the sound … the bugle really needs no amplification. One would be wise to consider the close quarters of an RV park, and the fact that all share in the appreciation of “Taps.”

Nina Soltwedel
Nina Soltwedel

However, I suggest the gentleman do away with amplification. The bugle needs none, and the “natural” sound may be less offensive to those who are nearby … RV parks equate close quarters.

KellyR
KellyR

YES but DO NOT amplify! At military graveside funerals I have attended, the bugler is off in the distance away from the site and you hear that low, distant, haunting sound that signifies a solemn days end. When I was on base it was amplified in order to cover the many acres of the base.

Jeanette Handling
Jeanette Handling

Retreat would be more appropriate, but I vote for tattoo–extinguish lights and cease loud talking.

William Maginot
William Maginot

I believe it would be more appropriate to play retreat when lowering his flag. Taps is meant to play to honor a fallen military member.

Don
Don

Taps is not played at retreat. Taps is played at the end of the day (usually 10 pm on most military installations). I winter on FAMCAMPS–you need to get used to revelrie at 6am, retreat and National Anthem at 5pm and taps at 10 pm. I feel taps at a public rv park is a little over the top or much to expect all to appreciate–and I am retired military and I love it…

Doris JoAnn Hamilton
Doris JoAnn Hamilton

GOD BLESS YOUR HEART AND SOUL–CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING SO WILLING AND TALENTED AS TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. AND HONOR ALL THOSE THAT DESERVE SUCH A TRIBUTE. I THANK YOU AND HOPE I AM SOMEWHERE NEAR SOMETIME, SO I CAN WALK OVER AND SHAKE YOUR AND MORE THAN LIKELY A FEW TEARS GIVE YOU A GREAT BIG BEAR HUG. THANK YOU. MY FATHER SERVED, MY MOTHER’S FATHER SERVED AND OF MY FAMILY SERVED. MANY, MANY OF MY FRIENDS SERVED AND SOME GAVE THEIR ALL. SO YOU KEEP GOING AND KNOW THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT YOU MAKE PROUD.… Read more »

Barry
Barry

As a military veteran, I never tire hearing this melody.
I am always reminded of the many who will never hear it again.

Gigi R
Gigi R

I voted no. First of all anything sent via speakers in a public campground is imposing the sound on others. But mostly I voted no because taps makes me sad and brings sad memories of funerals of people I knew. It would bring sadness to the end of my day.

Gene Bjerke
Gene Bjerke

I have no problem with “taps.” My concern is, how loud are his speakers? I am not in favor of people blasting their music to people who would prefer not to hear it.

James
James

It is ok to play as it is a good reminder of the freedom we have for all that serve to keep us our freedom .

Graybyrd
Graybyrd

I wonder if he performs this nightly ceremony at home, spotlights illuminating the huge flag in his front yard with a bank of public address speakers and a podium for him to stand on while playing Taps on his bugle? I’m sure his neighbors would be thrilled to gather in the street each evening to attend and show their respect for his undaunted patriotism. Reminds me of the thousands of pickup trucks I saw during the years immediately following 9-11, ripping along the freeways at 70 mph, adorned with flags whipping and shredding themselves to pieces in the slipstream. Only… Read more »

Tink
Tink

Growing up we heard Taps at summer camp & at camp outs at the Joint Bases Campground. As a parent I heard it at Boy Scout camps. There’s just something that has a comforting goodnight all’s well feeling. Plus it takes such a short amount of time out of the evening. If he happened to be in your camp ground, the choice to let him honor his country daily, for that short amount of time would take up less of your time and energy than dwelling on it & complaining about it. Things can only bother you if you let… Read more »

Lynne
Lynne

I think this is a slippery slope issue. If he places something significant for himself, other campers could then play something equally important. Where would the cut-off be? I think that campgrounds should not have anyone’s preferences imposed.

If it is a military campground, and playing Taps is CG policy, it’s a different story.

Phil Biggs
Phil Biggs

The answer to this issue can easily be found in the Bible. Matthew 6:5:

“When you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites, for. they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the. corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. ”

People who make public displays of personal beliefs are more interested in people’s view of them than the issue the profess to care about.

Wolfe
Wolfe

Your talking about what is now called “virtue signalling” by “Social Justice Warriors,” and I am certainly familiar with just the hypocrites you mention there… the sort that assert their comfort is more important than your rights, their desire to control your life is more virtuous than letting you govern yourself. That said, from the military folks I know, this guy would still play taps and fly a flag in his closet. I don’t get a sense that he’s doing it for show, even if he COULD be less obtrusive of people who don’t understand why he’s doing it.

Tink
Tink

Yes, but the Lord does command us to observe the law of the land. He is not praying to the flag, He is merely being respectful as it is lowered.

CTK
CTK

Amen, Mr. Biggs. Could not have said better.

TIM
TIM

Does it not occur to this half wit that when he is playing his music, that some of us may already be in bed asleep???

Not everyone is on your schedule, Frank Burns. Some of us have to arise at 2 AM to go to work, and our need for sleep outweighs your need to show everybody how you bleed red, white and blue.

If you wanna play it, do so with your earphones in, Captain Amurricuh

Dave
Dave

First of all, I’m a Veteran and damn proud of it, but the idea of someone playing a Amplified “Taps” next door to me? NO, i don’t think so!!!!

Charles Ketchum
Charles Ketchum

I am as patriotic as the next person, maybe more so. But, this is not ok. Consider that we are likely in a campsite that puts us in close proximity to our neighbors. This said, we already put up with light pollution from awning lights, We listen to slammed doors, we sometimes can hear loud indoor TV or stereo and we get the idiot next door that has his/her outdoor entertainment system blaring and isn’t anywhere near her/his RV. Enough. I love my country and my flag but, being allowed to pollute the campground with loud and perhaps unwanted music… Read more »

Jim O'Briant
Jim O'Briant

I think it would be OK provided two conditions are met:

(1) “Taps” is sounded at sunset, the hour at which the flag is to be retired, and no later.

(2) He sounds “Taps” on a bugle, not via a recording and NOT amplified in any way. Amplifying it can easily be an intrusion on the activities of others. You can’t successfully shove patriotism down someone’s throat any more than you can religion.

Mary Hazel
Mary Hazel

I think it would be lovely EXCEPT for the amplified part!

Terry Brown
Terry Brown

Voted No because of the use of amplified sound. However, if he personally were to play Taps with a bugle I’d be fine with that. The article did not say whether he personally play tap or it was a recording.

Diane
Diane

I voted yes but also agree with other folks that the loudspeaker might not be necessary. Played in his “own space” the sound will still travel as sound travels more outside but would be less invasive. This would also be a role model to other campers to keep their noise to themselves. If the owner can do it, why not me. People do think that way. A notice posted in the office might allow campers to attend the ceremony each evening at their choice which could be heartwarming to many and allow for the making of new friends. I am… Read more »

Mike
Mike

Come on people! I think taps so 24 notes, less than 1 minute long. I am not a veteran, but a proud and active member of the Patriot Guard Riders. Taps is played at every military funeral and at the funerals of most veterans. To me, taps is a way of remembering and paying respect to those that gave their lives defending our freedom an way of life. Is your life so important that hearing taps and taking a few seconds to remember those that served offends you? If I hear someone playing taps at a campground I’m at, I’m… Read more »

Prospector 1950
Prospector 1950

For those that replied that….. Quote, “while they, too, loved our country, it was not an appropriate place to play the traditional military call”. Unquote. In reality, and in essence, they are not patriotic, and they are only giving the words….”We Love our Country” what is called, “lip service” which now-a-days is approximately 90% of the people across the nation. With that kind of attitude, they are not really Patriotic. They are merely only concerned with themselves, and what they want. Oh yes if you approach them pertaining that subject they will deny that fact, an try to say they… Read more »

CTK
CTK

So anyone can do anything they want because it makes them feel good, and to hell with everyone else. Think about the “patriot” who might like Hendrix’s Star Spangled Banner. Oh, wait! I forgot that you are the one determining what and who is patriotic or not. Today’s standard is if you don’t agree with me, then you are unpatriotic. Consideration is certainly a thing of the past.

Lola
Lola

I think that is awesome.. but taps is played at the end of the day.
I think if a campground played taps they should let the campers know first.
Put that notice on there web page

Karen Barrett
Karen Barrett

It would not bother us (RET/DAV/USA & wife), but undoubtedly there will be some it would ‘bother’.

Rick
Rick

Being near a large military base we hear the national anthem every morning as the flag is raised and retreat every evening as the flag is lowered. The sound is piped through the loudspeaker system over the entire base and is heard throughout the surrounding area. It dose not cause anyone I know of a problem but I’m not sure I would appreciate it at a campground I’m staying in. But as long as it is not played during quiet hours and especially at 0800hrs every morning I would not have a problem with it, however I WOULD loose the… Read more »

Bob p
Bob p

I am a loyal veteran and love the taps, however I voted no because there are a majority of people who never served and don’t know the significance of taps, therefore I don’t think it appropriate especially in a campground. If he wants to have a private ceremony that doesn’t disturb his neighbors more power to him. As the old saying goes, freedom of speech ends at your neighbors ear. If I don’t want to hear what you have to say, I don’t have to listen to it and you forcing me to listen will cause conflict.

Wolfe
Wolfe

I have no problem with playing it, although it does strike me unusual. I do have a problem with thinking the freedom of speech means not being offended. I see that freedom more as a right to potentially offend and a responsibility to be offended. Freedom of discourse, even if we disagree. In this case, the man has the right to honor the fallen, even if you don’t like bugles. Best practice, I’d lose the amplifier and put out a sign on his own campsite to the effect of “I honor fallen veterans by playing Taps at 8PM each night.… Read more »

Tom Rastall
Tom Rastall

First off, Taps is played at the end of the day. Retreat is played when lowering the flag. I think it is a great idea, however I see no reason to use a loud speaker. He should do it at his own space. No different then these people who crank up their music or out door tv to entertain everyone.

WMSCV
WMSCV

I have no problem with it just be respectful of those around you.

Sue
Sue

We expect and appreciate taps and reveille when we stay in military campgrounds. We don’t think it’s appropriate in a public or private campground, for all the reasons others have already mentioned, especially played loudly.

DRS
DRS

This is a form of Freedom of Speech protected by the First Amendment of our Constitution. While I think it is a beautiful way to say good-night. Darrin might consider playing it with out the speakers in respect for his neighbors.

Tom Smothbrother
Tom Smothbrother

Yes ,absolutely it is rude and uncalled for. Others are not in the military and do not need the extra noise. I will personally object to anyone using a PA system in any campground. What ‘s next Muslim prayer on loud speakers? Selfishness trying to tell influence others w/o their expressed permission. Your rights begin where mine end and I have a right to peace and quiet from all loud noises especially loud speakers.

Bill T.
Bill T.

No. It’s one thing to play it along with other ceremonial music on military commemorative occasions, marking the sacrifices of those that helped secure our freedoms. One of those freedoms is the freedom to enjoy peace, unmolested by noisy neighbours and barking dogs. If that peace can’t be found, we are fortunate as RV’ers that we enjoy another freedom, the ability to come and go as we please.

Rob
Rob

Taps in an encampment is telling everyone it’s time to turn out the lights. I wouldn’t want to hear that at a CG anymore than I want to hear reveille in the morning!

Skip
Skip

I admire the thought, but I agree that playing it loud enough to be heard over the entire RV park is a bit much. And “taps” is not played when the flag is lowered; taps is played at lights-out. It’s “retreat” + “to the colors” that plays when the flag is lowered at the end of the duty day.

Diane
Diane

Sure! As long as I can broadcast revelry at sunrise!

Bob p
Bob p

It’s reveille not revelry

Edward Wullschleger
Edward Wullschleger

Revelry sounds interesting!

Tim
Tim

As a veteran no one has more love for his country. Playing anything loud enough for others to hear is inappropriate whether in an RV park at home or in church.

Bill
Bill

As long as it’s not too loud. It’s not like it’s a long song or he is playing it for hours.