RV Industry brags about defeating RV lemon laws

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May 20, 2019 — The RV Industry Association released a video today listing its accomplishments in 2018, which included victories in defeating RV lemon laws in two states. What does that mean? It means any RV buyer who ends up with a defect-ridden RV in those cases that can’t be fixed is stuck with it.

Below, see a 16-second excerpt of the video in which the industry brags about defeating the legislation that would have protected RVers from badly built products. If you want to read more on the subject, join the Facebook group RV Horror Stories.

So who is looking out for you? This website, RVtravel.com, plus The RV Show USA and the Escapees RV Club and our favorite lemon law attorney Ron Burdge at RVlemonLaws.com.

Watch the full RVIA video by clicking here. (Editor: Woops! It appears that video has been pulled. Two guesses by whom. It has been replaced by an edited version – click the video below.)

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Thomas Cozad
1 year ago

Where is the full video? what happened to it?

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RV Staff (@rvstaff)
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Cozad

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Thomas. It’s apparently been pulled by “the powers that be,” i.e., most likely the RVIA. Don’t like the heat from bragging about defeating the lemon laws, we’re guessing. 😀 —Diane at RVtravel.com

Carson Axtell
1 year ago

Ain’t it amazing how much lopsided, favorable legislation money and an organized lobby can get criminal businesses? Well, maybe not so much in these times when criminality is being normalized every which way you turn… Trade associations used to act through ethics enforcement to preserve the reputation of the industry they represented in the furtherance of their long-term interests, but these days they have become lobbies that only act to defend the unethical and even criminal behavior of their members for short-term profits.

Gene Bjerke
1 year ago

The more I read about the business, the more I like my older (2010) RV. It was built well and as long as I keep up with maintenance I have no reason to sell it. Yes, there are some nice goodies on the newer machines — heated floors springs to mind — but I will stick with my tried and true Roadtrek for the foreseeable future.

marty chambers
1 year ago

They are just cutting their own throats and destroying the RV industry by alienating their customers.

They tell us to buy new so not to have someone else’s POS. But they do nothing to keep manufacturers from selling POS RVs and don’t make them abide by their promises.

They have made RVing a fad that is quickly fading away.

This once was a pleasure, now greed has made it a trap that will make you regret getting into.

Carson Axtell
1 year ago
Reply to  marty chambers

Trade associations used to act through ethics enforcement to preserve the reputation of the industry they represented in the furtherance of their long-term interests, but these days they have become lobbies that only act to defend the unethical and even criminal behavior of their members for short-term profits.

Thomas Becher
1 year ago

There has got to be more to the video than that . It just stopped at legislation. What’s said after that?
Remember the old adage. BUYER BEWARE. If you are not savvy enough to check out your purchase than hire someone who is. I understand that all problems are not going to be apparent but looking at the general quality and appearance should give anyone a feel for what goes on next.

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RV Staff (@rvstaff)
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Becher

Thanks for writing, Thomas. The video in the post is just a quick excerpt from the whole video, where it mentions the lemon law. (OY!) But just above that there is a link which says, “Watch the full RVIA video by clicking here.” If you click on that link, you’ll see the whole video. 😀 —Diane at RVtravel.com

Henry Blair
1 year ago
Reply to  Thomas Becher

RVs are the epitome of a BUYER BEWARE purchase. There is little QC in the industry.

I have restored many RVs. It is a hobby and I enjoy working on older RVs — FMCs, Travecos, Superiors, etc. Due to age, I am finishing my last FMC. When someone is interested in buying one of my RVs, I always ask if they are mechanically inclined. If not, I discourage them from purchasing a 40-year-old plus RV. I have had two people I have refused to sell with cash in hand. RVing can be a great experience if you are prepared for the adventure. I would argue the point that owning and using an RV requires a knowledge of how things work or a fat wallet to pay someone who does.

Alvin
1 year ago
Reply to  Henry Blair

Henry, good points. Here’s my take. I spent a lifetime in the transportation restoration business, plus writing volumes about it, that’s part of the public record. After a short course in educating my clients, I never once feared selling anything I had my hand in to them to enjoy. I told them I went with the sale (in other words I stood behind my craft)which sealed it for most.
From a very early date in the 60’s when the adventure began I believed education was and is the key to owning and enjoying most things in life, a Recreational vehicle, regardless of its age, is just another of them.
We should never stop learning, nor should we ever stop helping folks gain the knowledge others have passed on to us or which we may have acquired “the hard way”

WMSCV
1 year ago

Just the fact they are bragging about it is awful. What a bunch of clowns.

Graybyrd
1 year ago

It’s a simple equation: money = power. As long as RVIA is able to use money to influence legislators and regulatory decisions, they’ll do so. And as long as sheep continue to hustle into the shearing pen, they’ll get fleeced. Sure, maybe most buyers will get lucky and drive away in their dream RV. And some won’t. So, who’s feeling lucky? It’s a foolish player who sits down to a rigged game.

Maybe if enough folks rebelled and refused to buy new RV’s, the RVIA might begin to clean up its act. Or not. Greed is a pernicious affliction.

marty chambers
1 year ago
Reply to  Graybyrd

Is you name really Frasier?

Mark C Schaffler
1 year ago

wonder how much that cost the RVIA??….whatever it was they will just pass on in increased cost for lemon rigs……no pride in workmanship or product production…..we really need foreign competition in the RV business….i.e. get the Japanese building them!!….they caused the US auto industry to change their ways….slowly, but they did.

TimL
1 year ago

Maybe we can get AOC To support the RV owner.

Harry Palmer
1 year ago

Many years back the Russians built a car called the Yugo. It was supposed to show the vast improvements in the Russian manufacturing process. It flopped everywhere outside Russia. In this country, we used to have a lot of car manufacturer’s but now we only have three US based companies. Chrysler Corporation came very close to going out of business back in the late 60’s or early 70’s. Lee Iacocca was hired to fix the company. He did but he came out with a real change -the 7 yr/70000 mile warranty. Why? Because many wouldn’t buy a Chrysler product since they were afraid it would fall apart and they would be responsible for fixing it.

Alvin
1 year ago
Reply to  Harry Palmer

Harry, the Yugo, came out of Yugoslavia, small point, and in most instances it was a failure. Price point sold them in NA. My son’s father in law then n Sacramento, bought one brand new drove the wheels off it, ending its life on a farm near Rexburg Idaho, where it sits abandoned today with over 150 miles on it. Merlin always loved to brag “he spent nothing on it but oil changes”. Lucky ? – perhaps so.

I don’t know if you recall, but the worst car ever sold on this continent was the Hyundai Pony (I know I endured a few) Today look at Hyundai (not Hyundai industries but Hyundai the automaker) – very near or at the top of the list of lowest frequency of repair and thus among the top most preferred autos sold world wide today.

I’m not sure in the states, because I live in Canada, but north of 49 a Mitsubishi product has a 10 year guarantee, on powertrain, if I recall correctly. I wouldn’t buy one if they offered a 20 year guarantee, they just do not fair well in the resale market – they must become many times more reliable before I’d ever darken a Mits doorway. Others will. And that’s the game being played, You could say Henry Ford started it over here, Yugo, continued the trend, and Mitsubishi, keeps it going.
We’ve just bought a new Grand Caravan, and we love it – yes RIP Lee I, he got that company going in the right direction ( he saved it in my view) at the right time.

Alvin
1 year ago

Mark you are spot on. I lived this first hand. I was there for it all. If one large hat in hand, automaker had listened to John Delorean, as he spelled it out in his book “On a Clear day you can see General Motors” decades ago; they would never had had the troubles they experienced later portrayed so admirably in MM’s book “The End of Detroit” Every page worthy of anyone who wondered “WHAT HAPPENED???) or what may eventually (and hopefully will) kill the industry producing the crap we endure today out of Indiana.