Ask Dave: Can I use Drano in my RV?

Dear Dave, 
Can I use Drano or Liquid-Plumber in my RV plumbing? —Nanci D., Tiffin

From Dave
The answer is no. Here’s why:

This question came up during our weekly RVtravel.com writers’ Zoom meeting. We were discussing Drano (and, similarly, Liquid-Plumr®) and how new RVers might not know if they can, or can’t, use it in their RV.

Nanci indicated that Tiffin corporate told owners to use Drano for any slow-running sinks and that it was safe to use for pipes and tanks.

Technically the plumbing used in most RVs is very similar to that of residential sinks, as most have gone away from the metal used in the past and now use PVC.

According to the Drano website:

“Drano® products are powerful enough to dissolve nasty clogs, but they will not harm your plastic or metal pipes, so there’s no need to worry. In fact, Drano Max Gel Clog Remover contains a special ingredient that prevents pipe corrosion.”

It also states that Drano will not affect a septic system or waste system such as that in a campground.

“All Drano products are septic-safe drain cleaners and will not upset the bacterial action in septic systems. Follow the package instructions for the right amount of product to use. Use Drano Max Build-Up Remover on a monthly basis to replenish the bacteria in the septic system that help break down toilet paper and organic matter in pipes.”

So the claim is it will not affect the bacteria in a septic system but that is a different process than the treatment you would typically use for the black water holding tank. According to my contact at Thetford, one of the leading tank treatment developers, they do not recommend any chemical based drain cleaners as studies have shown it affects the efficiency of the break down process. How would you like that job…analyzing sewage breakdown efficiency!

Different types of plastic

Most plumbing fixtures use thick polyvinyl chloride (PVC) piping that is glued together with a primer and PVC cement. This is the strongest connection and holds up longer with road vibration. Since this material is very rigid, exact cuts are required. This is a photo of the Forest River Salem we have been working on with black PVC original plumbing that we are trying to match with a new countertop and sink that are not quite aligned!

PVC Pipe
PVC pipe

Thin-walled polypropylene (PP) is sometimes used for the sink drains which have a “P” trap. These connections are screw-on compression fittings that can be adjusted up or down within the connecting pipe, so they are easier to install. I have found these connections do not hold up when traveling down the road.

P Trap
P-trap

I have always reinforced them with silicone tape around the entire connection to keep them fit. You can find a variety of colors here on Amazon.

Silicone Tape
Silicone tape

Also, if a chemical drain cleaner is used in this configuration, the chemical could sit at the lower curve and eat away at the thin plastic. If you have a clog in the “P” trap, it is better to use a snake like this one from Amazon, or just disassemble the “P” trap and remove the clog manually.

Drain Snake
Drain snake

Do Not Use Drano!

The debate goes back and forth quite often as the Drano site says it is OK, and I have had owners state that the plastic is the same as a residential plumbing system, which is true. However, a residential plumbing system does not have a holding tank and drain valves that have rubber seals. Valterra, the manufacturer of most of the pull handle drain valves, does not recommend using any chemical-based drain cleaner and has a product that will not deteriorate the seals. It is called Power Max and is available on Amazon here.

Valterra Power Max
Valterra Power Max

Most drain cleaners use sodium hydroxide, or lye, as the main chemical. It creates a chemical reaction that produces heat, which can be caustic to some pipes and especially the rubber seals of the drain valve, as well as the natural lubricant on the spade valve. There is also the potential for deterioration of the monitor panel probes or black water flush valve.

As the chemical sits in the holding tank for a long period of time, it could cause some issues, although I have had many owners state they have used it often with no issues. However, I do not feel comfortable letting harsh chemicals sit for any period time on the rubber seals and gaskets that are so critical for containing the stinky stuff. Plus, most RV plumbing systems are very short runs and can be unclogged easily. Just be sure to use a sink and shower screen so food waste, grease, and hair don’t create the clog in the first place.


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Dave Solberg is a leading expert in the RV industry and author of the “RV Handbook” as well as the Managing Editor of the RV Repair Club. He has been in the RV Industry since 1983 and conducts over 15 seminars at RV shows throughout the country.

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7 Comments

Neal Davis
1 year ago

Thank you, Dave! 🙂 I find it surprising (when one is naive, it is easy to be surprised often 🤔😯) that Drano claims to be as safe as they assert. I would have thought the contrary. Thank you, too, for providing “why” it is a bad idea to use Drano in an RV. Have a great day, safe travels, and safe stays! 🙂

Thomas D
1 year ago

the black pipes most often used in rv’s is ABS. It’s the cheaper stuff than PVC that is white. My plumber friend says its getting harder to find ABS . Of course when it comes to rv,s cheaper isbetter
in 35 years in my home I’ve never had a clog anywhere. What are my wife and I doing right ( or those people doing wrong?

Bill
1 year ago

Polypropylene resists most strong mineral acids and bases, but, like the other polyolefins,affected by chlorosulfonic acid and oleum at room temperature, 98% sulfuric acid, 30% hydrochloric acid, and 30% hydrogen peroxide at 100°C (212°F).
sodium hypochlorate (bleach), sodium hydroxide (lye), sodium chloride, sodium nitrate and aluminum. How does it work?
Weight percent Sodium hypochlorite 7681-52-9 1.00 – 5.00 Sodium chloride 7647-14-5 1.00 – 5.00 Sodium hydroxide 1310-73-2 1.00 – 5.00 Sodium silicate 1344-09-8 1.00 – 5.00 The specific chemical identity and/or exact percentage (concentration) of this composition has been withheld as a trade secret.Mar 4, 2015

Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill

Nitrile rubber—also known as Buna-N or NBR—is the most commonly used elastomeric material for gaskets and seals. It exhibits excellent resistance to acids, alkalis, gasoline, hydraulic fluids, and petroleum-based compounds. It also can tolerate temperature ranges of -40° F to +212° F.May 3, 2021
What attacks nitrile rubber?
Nitrile Rubber is generally resistant to oil, fuel, aliphatic hydrocarbons, and other chemicals. Nitrile, like natural rubber, can be attacked by ozone, aromatic hydrocarbons, ketones, esters and aldehydes.

Bill
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill

Since tank sensors are usually failing due to a coating of hydroyappite ( tooth enamal) then it may be a very good idea to fill the tank with water and some drano to clean the sensors, before draining and rinsing several times.

Dan L
1 year ago

While the information given seems informative, there are a couple of points that just seem convoluted. The sources, Thetford and Valterra have, and they would not recommend using competitors. Your statement, “letting harsh chemicals sit for any period (of) time”, is misleading at best, since we some RVs dump and flush their tanks every 2–3 days. Furthermore, the “affects the efficiency of the break down process” infers that this breakdown should happen in the blackwater holding tank. I honestly do not want the “stinky stuff” (your words), “effluent” breaking down in the holding tank, it should happen in the septic system.

Grandpa B.
1 year ago

Hi Dave, how about baking soda, vinegar and boiling water in the gray water drains?