Battle brewing between campers, RV parks on electricity usage

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By Andy Zipser

Andy is the owner of the Walnut Hills Campground and RV Park in Staunton, Virginia.

You’d think most adults would realize that nothing is free. You’d be wrong.

Under the headline “Newbie LP conservation tips,” RVTravel recently counseled readers to “conserve propane by switching on your electric water heater instead of propane.” It further suggested that another way to conserve propane is to “use an electric space heater instead of the furnace to stay warm.”


Elsewhere, the advice has been more blatant, with RVers encouraging others to use electric heaters when at campgrounds because the electricity is “free,” unlike the propane that would otherwise keep them warm.

Meanwhile, the February issue of Woodall’s Campground Management — a monthly trade publication targeted at campground owners — concurrently ran an article headlined, “More Owners Metering Sites as Cost of Electricity Continues to Climb.” The subhead quotes Wade Elliott, owner of Utility Supply Group, a major supplier of electric pedestals and related campground equipment, as saying that “somebody coming in to spend a night or two” is “going to use as much electricity in those two nights as the person staying for an extended period.”

Clearly, then, there’s a collision in the making between campers trying to save on costs and campground owners unwilling to pay for those savings.

Back in the day, when electricity was relatively cheap and campground electric demand was modest enough to be met with 20 amp service, there was no more reason to meter kilowatt consumption than there was to measure water usage. Yet both those variables have changed. Twenty amp service is anachronistic, 30 amp will serve only the smaller end of the market, and even 50 amps is becoming insufficient for some of the most power-hungry behemoths. The cost of electricity, meanwhile, climbed 15% over the past decade.

The combination of rising costs and rising demand is now threatening the underlying concept of bundled services that is typical of most campgrounds. We already have campers demanding a la carte pricing, claiming that they shouldn’t have to pay for amenities they’re not going to use, be it WiFi or the swimming pool.

Now they may find the same logic biting them back, as campground owners conclude they’ll be better off charging a separate fee for each service and utility. Taken to its extreme, perhaps we’ll see a revival of once ubiquitous coin-operated showers!

Walnut Hills RV Park
Andy’s Walnut Hills Campground and RV Park in Staunton, Virginia

ONE POSSIBLE RESPONSE, of course, is for campground owners to raise site rates across the board to cover their increased electric costs. But that means simply that the cost of “free” electricity consumed by some RV campers is spread among all RV campers — including, ironically, the same bunch who want to pay for everything on an a la carte basis. Moreover, spreading the costs in this fashion encourages the kind of wastefulness that results from the “but it’s free” mentality.

That isn’t a merely speculative observation. At our campground, all our monthly sites are metered — but in addition, every time we replace a pedestal we do so with a metered one. As a result, we have some pretty interesting data to compare usage patterns between those who pay directly for what they consume — our month-to-month campers — and our overnighters, who don’t.

The upshot? Those who don’t pay for electric consumption use nearly twice as much juice as those who do.

Right now those metered overnight sites are like that for our own internal monitoring purposes. But as our costs keep rising — our monthly electric bill currently averages a bit more than $6,000, which is a whole mess of overnight fees — the thought of electric usage fees is never far from our minds.

Your comments are welcome.


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Gwyn Blake
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Gwyn Blake

Here is my spin on this matter. I have no problem with a meter. However the RV parks or resort has lets say established a fee of 700.00 a month with electric . Ok now the same parks are going to meter your electricity and not adjust down for the built in charge they have on electricity . The parks are becoming very greedy due to supply and demand. It will force more folks to boondock or completely give it up. Hope this makes sense!

John Koenig
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John Koenig

I would PREFER to be at a metered site. Pay a lower “base rate” for the site and then, pay only for the electricity that I use. I expect that many parks would have to upgrade their pedestals (which should be a good thing). I’ve used metered sites in the past and know to take a meter reading before I plug in (I snap a photo on my iPhone). I snap a second photo when I unplug. Show the photos to the camp office staff and, I pay for just the electricity that I used.

Peter T Morgenstern
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Peter T Morgenstern

I am a full timer and I travel from campground to campground never staying more than a month at any one campground and I’ve seen all examples of utility misuse: air conditioners running all day when occupants are out sightseeing all day; watching people washing dishes with full sinks and the water running full blast to rinse; awning lights and bogey lights running all night. How many of these people would chastise family members for doing the same thing at the old stick n mortar? My father used to do that lot! Why do we think we are owed something… Read more »

Mike Sokol
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I predict that more and more campgrounds are going to begin metering, so best to arm yourself with calculations. If anyone is interested I could write an iPhone app or create an online spreadsheet that would compare the cost of propane and electricity, plus factor in an efficiency rating for each brand and model of RV furnace. That would give you a SWAG (Scientific Wild A** Guess) to determine if it’s more expensive to heat with electricity or propane at a particular campground. Yeah, I know you want the app to be free, but apps cost money to publish so… Read more »

Sherri L
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Sherri L

Have the rv park fee include a reasonable amount of electricity. If you use more than the baseline, you pay more in fees. There is no free lunch.

Beedogs
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Beedogs

Force me to deal with the hassle of meter reading and seperate payments for less than a one week stay and I will simply go elsewhere.

Gwyn Blake
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Gwyn Blake

I believe elsewhere will follow suit eventually.

Cindy
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Cindy

I have a 34′ pull behind. We are the old breed of camper that like to be out in nature. We have watched the fees soar over the last few years. I feel it is due to supply and demand. More campers and deeper pockets. This in itself has hammered the moderate income family camper. I think there should be a baseline of power usage that is gratuitous for the fees charged. The challenge is real to give that old fashion camping experience to the younger generation. Let’s use some thoughtfulness when making these decisions.

Gwyn Blake
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Gwyn Blake

Exactly

Big Bear
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Big Bear

My view is that electricity, water, maintenance and so on are all part of being in business. If the owners start charging for everything separate it will just be a mater of time and they will increase the cost of utilities to make a profit on them. If I don’t want to pay electric does that give me the right to run my generator. Will the owners lower the lot rental cost because I now pay my own electric? I don’t think so. In my view it’s no different than an all you can eat buffet. If I choose to… Read more »

Gwenne
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Gwenne

Sounds totally fair to me…..we are adults, and should be willing to take responsibility for our behavior! I would accept metering, because I appreciate having nice RV parks to go too…..

Bill Lampkin
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Bill Lampkin

Andy, How do costs compare between o’nighters and extended stay on a month by month basis? I would bet that in Aug, or other summer months, both use the same amount.

JON Scott
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JON Scott

And then you have those Bad Bad RV manufactures that are selling ALL electric coaches like “hot cakes” !!

Tom Seim
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Tom Seim

As a tenant of an RV park, I expect to fully pay for the costs of my visit, and I am happy to do so. However, I get irritated when something is promised, but not delivered. This happens when the pool is shut down or, worse, the bathrooms are out of order. I am shocked to learn that some RVers use more electricity than others! What is next, monitoring the number of times we visit the bathrooms, or how long we use the showers? RV park managers should concentrate on how to make visits by tenants more pleasant, and less… Read more »

Shelley S
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Shelley S

Overnight campers may use more electricity in a 24 hr period than those paying monthly but an overnight stay per night is more costly than a monthly rent divided by 30 nights therefore, if the RV Park owner takes that into account, I might conclude that the extra electric is already being paid for. Also, we have been in parks that add a surcharge onto the rate per kWh that the park is being charged by the electric provider. In some states, that is illegal and one particular park that we were staying in, when discovered the owner of the… Read more »

Jan
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Jan

Plus when we make reservations through Reserve America we have to pay added fees on top of our camping fees. Then some parks throw on added fees too, some of us only camp as our relaxation time, and live on fixed income so like to keep the costs as low as possible. I will add we try to be conservative just as we are at home…😊👍🇺🇸

Steve
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Steve

We need more SOLAR users !

Robin Dmochowski
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Robin Dmochowski

While I can understand where the owner is coming from, I completely disagree with raising rates across the board. The only “fair way” to levy an additional fee is to take the average of the Monthly renters and use that as an average to compute a “per day” daily average. If that per day average is exceeded by anyone (this includes the Monthly renters if they are not metered) then they get charged the difference on the per day average. My only reservation with this is that there are many “seasonal renters” that are only at the campgrounds for the… Read more »

John Wayne
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John Wayne

Cost of electricity used to be figured in, so don’t you think it should be figured out before we start getting charged for the usage we incur? Seems like double dipping to me…..

J.O.
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J.O.

I usually dry camp, and rely on my batteries and small solar. But sometimes it’s a treat to have power, sewer, and water. However, if you are going to meter electricity, then the basic camp fee should be lowered. Then people just pay for the electricity they use. For those of us in a small RV, with very little electrical usage, other than for lights and maybe a toaster, we shouldn’t have to foot the bill for the giant RVs with dishwashers, washer/dryers, a tv in every room, blenders, ice makers, coffee makers, vaccums, big air conditioners, etc that suck… Read more »

Mitchell Dennett
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Mitchell Dennett

Andy I’d be interested in hearing what you think my nightly fee should include. You upcharge for sewer’s and 50 amp service. You upcharge for premium sites. You upcharge for those users who are being billed for their power. Finally if you were to assume 50% occupancy your electric bill is 80.00 per site per month. less than 2 nights revenu. I understand this is crude but to have a serious conversation additional data is needed. When the coin box appears on the bathroom stall I’m done with my RV. Your enjoying great prosperity with all the RV’s being built… Read more »

DL Johnson
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DL Johnson

For us, a metered pay-what-you-use connection would be great. We have a small 24-foot class B coach. We use electricity just as we would at home, which is to say, conservatively. We turn off the water heater between uses (hand-washing dishes or short showers). We set the thermostat down very low at night or turn it completely off. In short, we treat electrical use like a precious commodity that has an overall “cost” and impact to the community and the environment. We sometimes question why a smaller rig like ours should incur the same camping fee as that of the… Read more »

Edward Dmochowski
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Edward Dmochowski

DL, you don’t have to. Go Boondocking. The problem with your analogy is that there are different fees for different site sizes and amenities. So that usually covers the difference in RV Size. The other side of that is that even though you are conservative in what you consume, everyone else isn’t. I don’t suppose there will ever be a solution that will be satisfactory to everyone.

D M Sims
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D M Sims

DL Johnson…We have a Class A, 45′ motorhome and we use power, sewer, and water just as you do…conservatively, just as we did at our Florida home.

Paul
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Paul

I understand the desire to meter electricity for long-term campers; they get a discounted site fee anyway. But if short-term stays are costing you more, then bump up your nightly fees. And most campgrounds already do charge more if you ask for a 50amp site, so this should be taken care of already if you’re a savvy businessman. I hate getting to a campground and finding out they have surcharges for this, that and the other. I really don’t think you should be trying to emulate the airline industry, where the final cost after all the surcharges ends up being… Read more »

Mark Gipson
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Mark Gipson

We are starting our 7th year as Full-Timers and never considered electricity “free”. We assume it is part of our daily site fee and are using the electricity we have paid for. If a park owner is “giving electricity away” it is either by choice, oversite, or poor management.

Casper Naegle
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Casper Naegle

I am curious about your data.. You say that nightly renters or those who don’t pay directly for electricity use nearly twice as much as those who do pay. I would like to understand if you track the type of rigs and service they require as part of your data? (i.e. 30Amp vs. 50Amp). I would guess that your nightly users are in larger rigs that use more service than your long term renters and that it is not simply a matter of trying to use more or being more efficient. If you don’t have enough profit in your campsite… Read more »

Mike Sokol
Editor

Remember, a “50-amp” shore power connection is actually two separate 50-amp legs which is 100-amps of current at 120 volts. That’s why the maximum power you can supply from a 30-amp shore power outlet is 30 amps x 120 volts = 3,600 watts, while the max power you get from a “50-amp” outlet is 50 amps x 2 legs x 120 volts = 12,000 watts. Also remember that the National Electrical Code, the maximum continuous amperage you can pull through a circuit breaker (and associated wiring and connectors) is 80% of the nominal value. So that’s 24 amps continuous (2,880… Read more »

Robert C. Wix
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Robert C. Wix

The issue that campground visitors ignore is that park owners pay for the electric to be there 24/7 even when it is vacant. There is still a meter charge from the electric company. I f you want electric then pay for it.

Michael Allen
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Michael Allen

My wife and I have been on the road for the last 10 months, staying in campgrounds across the country. We require 50 amp service to provide electricity to meet our needs in each campground we stay in (39 to date). I make the reasonable assumption that the campground owner is smart enough to charge a fee that allows the recovery of all expenses plus a profit margin. The nightly rates we have payed across the country have certainly been high enough to cover our electricity usage. It sounds to me like this park owner doesn’t really understand how to… Read more »

Rich Dzialo
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Rich Dzialo

We are in Florida for six months. Our electric is metered. We have a 50 amp service Class A motorhome. With our water heater, air conditioners, combo washer/dryer, convection oven, electric fireplace, supplemental space heater, and lighting and residential fridge our monthly cost has not yet reached more than $2.50 per day. As I am thinking about it, our lot fee increased by $35 per month for a monthly surcharge by the electric company. That’s an added $1.17 to my daily usage fee which will total $3.67 daily. Just some food for thought.

Don
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Don

Says electric rates have gone up 15% in the last 10 years yet campground fee’s have increased about 50-100% in those same 10 years how come?

Vanessa Simmons
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Vanessa Simmons

I’m supposed to stand around on the day I check out waiting for someone to read my meter and determine the bill!

Europe used to charge you for hot water…feed it a shilling, farthing, deutsche mark to get hot water.

mikeeusa
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mikeeusa

It really amazes me to read about anyone urgeing folks to save on propane costs and sticking it to the campground then turn right around and gripe about the high cost of campsites. All of this from scrooge’s running around the country in $20,000 to $750,000+ RV’s !! I guess I shouldn’t be surprised though, we have become a free, free, free society who want everything given to them as if it’s some sort of ‘right’ but expect everyone else to pay up. I believe that it is unconscionable and disingenuous for any individual or organization to promote this type… Read more »

Jane Parker
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Jane Parker

No different than it will be when healthcare is “free” or college is “free” or any of the other popular vote-buying schemes being touted today. People will not attempt to keep the costs low if they aren’t paying directly.

Donald J Randall
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Donald J Randall

Just charge for the electric. Duh!
I live for months at a time in the desert. I don’t need to pay for other people’s electric usage.
METER IT!
ENERGY INDEPENDENT! 😏

Lowell
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Lowell

Personally, If I had a choice of two RV parks, one charging extra for full hookups and one charging nothing extra, I would always choose the RV park who DIDN’T charge extra for full hookups. If the operator nickles and dimes the campers to death, it merely encourages campers to seek out the competition who has a better handle on costs.

D M Sims
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D M Sims

Bingo!

Mike Sokol
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Charging for electricity at the going rate the campground pays the utility company doesn’t do anything to pay for the campsite power pedestal maintenance. And paying a campground for electricity that’s under 100 volts is just crazy. In fact, they shouldn’t be able to call it a powered campsite unless it can meet basic NEC requiments for voltage and grounding. This all takes money, which does take a certain amount of management will to implement. Now I understand there’s really no way to force a campground to allocate even 1% of their revenue towards electrical system maintenance and updates, so… Read more »

Rick
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Rick

In my mind I would rather it be “free” but we all know it’s part of the site cost. My problem with putting a meter in and charging separate for electricity is the campgrounds charge their own rates and do not follow the public service commission rates. They add a cost to the price. I cannot see how that is legal. If they charge the legal rates then I can agree with metering. As far as upkeep of meters, the campgrounds need to include that in the agreed upon fee.

Vic
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Vic

I stay at a seasonal site in Pennsylvania for the summer. I pay $885 for the six month stay plus electric. My electric bills run anywhere from $27 to $35 a month. I call that a bargain all the way around. My camper has a 30 amp power source.

Michael McCracken
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Michael McCracken

Wow!! That is a fantastic rate. Not sure what the park looks like? Better stay put and not travel around. This is the cheapest rate I have ever heard of.

Robbie Posner
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Robbie Posner

That seems to be a cost of about $1 a day for electric. I’d be willing to pay an extra dollar a day for electric.

Den
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Den

I agree with some who said go ahead and raise your fee per night. Cover the cost but the minute that you start using resort fees and meterelectric then you become know better than a hotel. I’ll just sell my art rig. some places we have stated are doing like hotels and charge a regular rate per night and then when you get in there they charge fees per day. Not worth it to me anymore.

livingboondockingmexico
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I’m glad I boondock. I have everything I need and always find a place to park. No vacancy problems, no pedestal issues, sewer or water. No noise from other campers or their families and or pets, just the two of us enjoying nature. If I want to swim I look for a quiet lake or stream maybe even thermal waters. Starry nights and peace and quiet.

Richard
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Richard

isn’t always the easy when traveling across country.

Dfwgreg
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Dfwgreg

You don’t pay your share of electricity at a hotel so why a campsite? This nickel and diming just adds to stress of what should be a relaxing event. Raise your nightly rate if you are not profitable just like you would if your landscape or water costs spiked. If I have to swipe a credit card for electric AND check in like a hotel for a parking spot, then I will just park at a rest stop and run my generator. Ps a 15% increase over a decade is below average cost of living increases. Campers wanting a la… Read more »

MIKE
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MIKE

I CAN SYMPATHIZE WITH THE PARK OWNERS WITH THE INCREASE OF COST OF ELECTRIC BILLS AS I RECENTLY GOT AN INCREASE IN MY HOME ELECTRIC BILL. SOLUTION I BELIEVE WHAT IS FAIR IS FOR THE PARK OWNERS TO HAVE THE SITES METERED AND PRICED AT A NON PROFIT. RV PARKS AND THEIR PRICING IS ONE OF MANY REASONS I SOLD MY RV, ITS GETTING TO COSTLY. SO NOW IN MY TRAVELS I MAKE RESERVATIONS TO STAY IN RENTAL PROPERTIES. SAFE TRAVELS

Jim
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Jim

I was wondering when camps would start some pushback on “free” electric use. I pay $150 + a month for electricity at home. That averages $5+ a day. Double that to cover inefficient insulation in RVs. Double that to cover the cost of distributed delivery in a campground and you can see how it eats thru the profits and into upkeep. I’m sure that there’s more I don’t know about owning a campground. But “free” anything is a myth.

Robert Olson
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Robert Olson

Has anyone done a comparison of the cost difference between using all electric vs propane stove, furnace, hot water, and refridge.?

D Nethercott
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D Nethercott

Frig is about a dollar a day on electric @ .15 per hwh

Jarod Micheal Howard
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Jarod Micheal Howard

It fascinates me that the blame is on people utilizing a service you literally acknowledge as often-included instead of the sites suggesting using power or the companies who grossly overcharge utilities. Those are fascinating priorities.

Anthony Joel Vinson
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Anthony Joel Vinson

I absolutely do not agree with the electric metering. There are alot of places that you just don’t get value for money and then charge for the electricity on top of that? Now, if your long term, then I can see it…maybe.

Mike Sokol
Editor

Electricity from the power company is WAY cheaper than running your own generator, even if the electric power was marked up by a campground to help pay for the infrastructure. Back in the ’70s when the big gasoline crunch was happening, my boss and I at Corning Glass worked up a comparison chart showing the cost and energy equivalence of a gallon of gas with a gallon of electricity, etc… Would be interesting to come up with a similar chart showing the equivalent cost of a KWH of electricity in comparison with the cost of propane, gasoline in a high… Read more »

pierre
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pierre

A gallon of electricity?

Mike Sokol
Editor

Yes, it’s actually a pretty simple set of calculations. First, you figure out how much energy in BTUs is in a gallon of fuel oil, then use that to calculate the equivalent amount of energy in a gallon of gasoline, gallon of diesel and lb of propane. You also convert BTU into Kilowatts to find how many KHW of electrical energy is equivalent to a gallon of fuel oil (or whatever). Once you have the equivalent amounts of gasoline, diesel, propane and electricity, you simply plug in the current cost of these energy sources, and voila: Now you know how… Read more »

Just saying....
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Just saying....

Mike, I would defer to your vast accumulated knowledge of electrical/RV usage however I would point out that if anyone is interested just go to the many RV forum sites such as the Foretravel and Monaco forums (mostly bigger Class A’s that are energy hogs). There are a tremendous amount of discussions and threads on this very topic. Many that have been written by retired electrical contractors, propane industries executives and I have even seen some done by theoretical physicists using math calculations to determine cost and other associated factors. Point being is that there are way to many factors… Read more »

Nick DiPietro
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Nick DiPietro

Charging $ 50 and up for one nite. Just what am l supposed to get for my money. A parking spot ? I can stay in a rest area for free if all l am getting for my money is a place to park.

John
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John

So true. The nightly rate should encompass all these extra things. Seems like park owners want the nightly rate to be all profit and then make you pay your share of electric, maybe water, etc. on top of that.

Chuck
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Chuck

I pay for electricity at home so why not at a campsite. To avoid the long lines upon exit I see each pedistal with a card reader. Swipe your card and select the number of kilowatt hours. I also think the campground owners should have to post the price charged per kilowatt hour at the entrance to the park and on their website. Placed along side their rate should be the electric company’s current rate. If they want us to pay, and I’m not opposed to that, they need to buy into this situation too.

Dfwgreg
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Dfwgreg

Ok then let’s put a card reader at the pool, hot tub, walking trails, dog park and the beach…. Don’t forget water, sewer and trash. I mean you pay for water, sewer, garbage and electric at home so why not at a campsite? Oh wait… What about wifi? Here’s why! The campsite competition is not your home! It’s hotels, vacation rentals and Air bnb etc. Do you pay separately for electricity at those? How about at cabins at the same campground? NOPE! Pro tip. You are already paying for electric and other amenities in your campsite fee. Do you really… Read more »

Linda
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Linda

I completely understand the variance of utility usage between guest. I own a vacation rental home. Some guests are there very little, others a lot. Some like it cold, some warmer I would never think it wise to penalize one guest from the other based on their comfortable use of the home. There is no way I would want meter their usage. I evaluate costs on a regular basis and adjust rates accordingly. That’s what every business does when calculating fixed costs. Isn’t it already set up that larger sites with higher amp service pay more and visa versa. That’s… Read more »

D M Sims
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D M Sims

Well said Linda. I’m already paying a higher price at my current campground because its Florida in March. And they are charging for electric because I’m staying 1 month. The day I leave the daily rate drops significantly. :-/

Wolfe
Guest

Simple math… at “melt my plug” amperage, my 30A trailer can theoretically drink a maximum $8 of electricity in a 24 hour period. That would be carefully balancing loads to keep at full draw without popping the breaker, all through the night and all day. A lot of work to get my full $8 of electricity! I’m charged $5 per day typically for electric, so absurdity would say i’m gaining $3 of electricity. Not worth my time to stay up all night and stay in all day for $3. But, I have a meter IN my RV, so I have… Read more »

Dfwgreg
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Dfwgreg

All great points ignored in these “meter every site” posts. If you meter electric…. Meter every amenity. If the logic applies to electric it applies to ALL. For all the moron advocates of this practice, (which with increased maintenance costs of all the meters and readers, would be less profitable, not more) I propose a “pain in the ass meter” be placed at my site for these tunnelvisioned mathtards to reimburse me for the unnecessary ass whip.

Wenddy Wenner Busk
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Wenddy Wenner Busk

I’m dry-camping in Arizona this winter where it’s warm. Not this winter.Temps in the 30s overnight for too long drove me to an RV park with full hookups so I could use my space heater. However, since my travel trailer (a Casita) is only 17 feet long, it heats up within minutes. On the other hand, I was paying the same as the enormous sunblockers that probably use four times the electricity that I do. Why should I subsidize them? If you want to keep your electric bill low, I suggest you charge by the RV foot. You may end… Read more »

Dfwgreg
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Dfwgreg

I guess cold natured people in hotels in the summer are subsidizing the hot natured, since they run the AC more at the same room rate. Oh and you used the bathroom facilities more than the motorhome a few sites over so you should pay for that. They don’t want to “subsidize” your usage. If they did use 4x the electric of your casita…at 20 kwh per day a $0.12 per kwh we are talking $2.40 per day vs your $0.60 and that’s a big If. This ignores the fact that higher end coaches have more energy efficient appliances, insulation… Read more »

Seann
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Seann

For a long time I have said if I open the campground it would be complete a la carte pricing if you wanted the basic campsite it would be $X you want to use the power pedestal there it would be coin or credit card operated where you plug in and you pay for how much you want to use same with water and the dump station everything would be coin or credit card operated so you pay for what you use and I think that would be the most fair thing to the campground owner and to the RV… Read more »

Hhc
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Hhc

IAs a 7 year full timer you see many charging schemes by owners and hear complaints about rate methods by RVers- At the end of the day owners must make a profit and RVers will stay where they can aford. What customers do you want? Some are so cheap they take sugar for personal use from camp ground coffee supplies—I have observed this odd behavior o occasionally. Complex or trying to please a few complainers pricing strategies will just generate more work, longer lines and time AND more unhappy customers. Decide what you need and charge accordingly. Some RVers are… Read more »

Landry
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Landry

I’m good with à la carte (as a 50 amp user) metered usage, but in an fairy tale ideal world (where every thing is fair, wink wink!) make it for everything in the campground. As many have said, many “features” of campgrounds we do not use, (public showers/bathrooms, pools, cable etc). We camp mostly in the hot and humid gulf coast where both ac’s are usually running wide open… should we get a discount on electricity if the camp ground does not provide enough “shade” at our particular parking spot? Should the camp ground charge more if the top of… Read more »

MikeJ
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MikeJ

You have a good valid point about the ‘shade’. A couple of strategicly placed shade trees located at each site would help to reduce electric use immensely. The initial cost of the trees wouldn’t be cheap but in the long run it would pay off, and help beautify the CG, giving birds a home, etc.

Michael Latham
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Michael Latham

Just don’t place the trees in an area that is going to block my satellite dish.

Edward Price
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Edward Price

I would imagine that metered pedestals would use an electronic meter which “talks” back to the campground’s central computer. At time of check-in, the clerk “reads” the electric meter via the computer link. Then, at check-out, a second reading is made and the net kWh is calculated and charged at whatever rate is current.

MrDisaster
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MrDisaster

So, you raise the rate per night a bit. Maybe more for a large rig that “demands” 50 amp service (all electric) and a little less for 30 amp and even less for 15/20 amp. If a CG wanted to cover the $6 k it would take 50 sites occupied 25 nights a month with an additional cost of $5 to cover the $6k bill completely. A rate increase of $2.50 a night covers about half that bill. This is a “quick formula” that doesn’t reflect season or weather. Metering for actual cost would be great but that would add… Read more »