Leaked documents dated to earlier this week, obtained from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by Yahoo News, warn that new coronavirus cases are spiking again as Americans relax their social distancing practices.
Is this the widely-feared “second wave” of COVID-19, which could lead to more mass deaths and knock down an economy that’s only starting to recover? It remains unclear — especially because the fight against the virus is going very differently in different areas of the country.
What do you think? Is the worst of the Pandemic behind us, or does trouble lie ahead?
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Those accusing those that wear masks and social distancing of living in fear remind me of this old joke.
A cop stopped an old lady for a traffic violation. She informed him that she had a concealed carry permit. He asked if she had any weapons in the car.
“I have a 38 in my purse, a 45 in the glove compartment, a 9mm in the console and a shotgun in the trunk.” The cop asked what she was afraid of.
Not a “blanking” thing sonny, not a “blanking” thing.
THIS topic sure generated responses…..
It has become so hard for me to pay attention to the news lately. Responsible journalism, printed or broadcast, has become history. Reporting has been replaced by opinions and and editorials, and, worst of all, sensationalizing and exploiting. I am nearly convinced that “reporters” are pandering to the advertisers for those $$$$, It doesn’t seem to matter if it is local, world wide , or anything in between. It also doesn’t matter who is doing the so-called reporting, whether it is ABC, CBS, NBC, or any of the other smaller networks. The stories are all the same as though one person is writing all of it. Then, we have the experts who are trying to appear to address issues, but really just showboating because someone put a microphone in their face. Just more opinions from either elected or appointed politicians who became experts overnight because, well, they got elected or appointed. Case in point. I needed to get a haircut when the Covid pandemic began, but our governor closed all the barbershops, salons, etc. OK. I can wait. But when I see her and her entourage on TV, they all looked quite well groomed. Same for our local leaders, who also, I guess, remove their protective masks for the camera. I find it hard to give credibility to any reporting anymore.
Here in Oregon, as the more restrictive measures were recently lifted, there’s already been an uptick in new covid cases. And, no, it isn’t because more testing is being done. It’s because of the folks who continue to live their lives as they did in The Before Times. To those who think the virus is fake news, explain that to my dear friend who just passed away due to covid. It’s real, folks, and if we’re not vigilant, this thing will never go away. To her credit, our governor immediately put the tougher restrictions back in place. I am very grateful that she is being a responsible public servant. Thank you, Governor Kate Brown!
You mean if you live in NY.
The cases are climbing in all the other states now except NY, NJ.
It was only a matter of time before the rest of the country started to catch up.
This isn’t a “second wave”, it is just the rest of the country catching up with the first wave.
A “second wave” won’t take place until early this fall and through the winter.
Stay tuned.
June 12th, the CDC announced that they expect a surge of Covid19 deaths by July 4th. As of June 12th, the U.S. had passed the mark of 100,000 dead and, predict up to an ADDITIONAL 40,000 Covid19 deaths by July 4th!
I’ve been “socially isolating” and “sheltering in place” in TN for THREE MONTHS now. Every 7 ~ 10 days, I drive ~ 20 miles to resupply. I am continually amazed at how many people do NOT follow SIMPLE safety practices such as wearing a face mask, maintaining a six foot separation and following “traffic flow” signage many stores have posted (to keep people from face to face encounters). As bad as the “hit” the economy has taken is, mass numbers of DEAD PEOPLE are even worse. I’m fortunate that I can continue to “isolate in place” where I am as long as I need to. I’m a Full Time RVer and, as much as I would really love to get back on the road, I am not DYING to do so.
I think the pandemic for the most part is over….if the politician’s allow it to be behind us. We recently stayed in a RV park for 45 nights starting mid-April thru the end of May without any incidents. You could count the number of hospitalizations in this county on one hand. But the last 2 weeks were marred by the county who came out with severe restrictions on the use of RV parks. Overnight they decided that everyone was at a heightened risk so a few were asked to leave the park even though they had been there for some time. Only full timers were to be allowed to stay. Strange in that the hotels were allowed to be open while they mandated that RV parks not be open to the public. A couple of days following this tightening down the same county allowed some restaurants to open in a small way if they met certain strict conditions. A week after this restaurants were being allowed to have dine in patrons. The point of my post is that local governments seem to be moving in opposite directions at the same time so I’ll repeat what I said up front……”if the politician’s allow it to be behind us” the pandemic, which I feel strongly was politically motivated from day one, will be behind us & we will again be free to travel again. RV parks are probably the safest environment to live in as we are already spaced apart much more so than other types of lodging.
Ted, your a wise man. But clarify, say NYC and the surrounding metro area.
My DW and I still wear a mask, although many people in our small town do not. It makes me nervous considering our age group.
why was my comment pulled ? the truth. that fear will be the end of this country. Look what is going on in the USA. It is wrong to let this government tell us what to do we are free people. Just delete this because we don’t want to here the truth.
Gary, can’t say I remember your original comment. But, if it was civil, fact based, then those on the staff shouldn’t be pulling it. That’s just not right. Did you?
Wasn’t me. I’ve removed it from the Trash twice now and will probably get in trouble for it. I don’t agree with Gary’s message, but I don’t agree with disallowing it, either. It’s back (for the time being). Other moderators are much stricter than I am. —Diane at RVtravel.com
Sorry, Gary. Other moderators are much more strict than I am. I’ve removed it from the Trash twice now — and will probably get in trouble for it. But I agree that you have a right to say what you want, even though others don’t agree with it. —Diane at RVtravel.com
I am an admitted news junkie. Every night I watch the CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, and MSNBC news. And when I get it, I also watch the BBC and other international news. What I see is that they all report the same basic facts and statistics. If you believe in “fake news” then you must also believe that every night, the executives from these competing news organizations get together and decide what “fake news” they are going to air the next day. There has been instances where one organization may have report something incorrectly, but they always correct their mistake in subsequent news and apologize for their mistake. For those that believe in “fake news’, please provide me with a specific example where one of these news organization deliberately air fake news. Explain why you think this was fake and list your source of the ‘real news’. All I hear is “fake news” but I never see anyone providing examples or stating why the news is fake.
It’s called ” talking points” and sadly yes, those organizations all pile on. Search montage on youtube, it might just enlighten you as to how non independent they really are. Sad, but true.
As an example, it was reported by all of those news organizations for THREE YEARS that the current administration was in bed with the Russians. Truth is that the US Attorney is looking into what really happened. Indictments should be forthcoming. When that happens (still under investigation), then your either going to see them admit they were wrong, and just jumped on the band wagon, but I suspect, they will not be upstanding. I mean what’s in it for their audience, right?
I guess you have not read the Mueller report. Here is a link to the key findings:
https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/
The current investigation by the US Attorney is to punish those that provided evidence of the Russian interference.
The whole fake news thing is just a projection by the very people that are actually using propaganda to further their causes.
Does the media in general make mistakes? Yes.
Do they sensationalize for ratings? of course.
Joe, hostile crowd huh. I see you mentioned fact, yet you have negative votes for saying so. We live in troubled times my friend. I commend you for stating fact. But fear in the hearts of many, clouds judgement IMHO.
You ask a question that no one can answer. Of course we all have “opinions” as to whether the worse of the pandemic is over. There are news reports that in some states that have re-opened, new covid-19 cases are up as much as 70% when compared to the previous weeks before the reopening. We will all just have to wait and see what happens…
As a retired health care professional, I’ve seen contagious illness come and go over the seasons. Covid-19 is the second scariest I’ve ever seen, behind SARS. Fortunately, SARS wasn’t as contagious and killed too many of it’s hosts.
This is very contagious, we have no vaccine, no natural immunity to it, and no effective way to treat it. It is a multi faceted bug that hits the lining of the blood vessels as well as the lungs. The mortality rate for us retired folks is too high. Patients who have been seriously ill with this may suffer long-term consequences, even disability. New York was able to turn the curve down with drastic measure, but we see how quickly new hospitalizations are climbing in areas where restrictions are looser.
Unfortunately, we have a long way to go before we can get back to being social again.
New York State locked down most of the rural part because of the City. The governor did not apply common sense. I see that they just drastically lowered the death by CORONA virus count, but no mention at the NYS Dept. Of Health website why?
It is a racist term that some keep using. Report the comment as such so that it can be removed. I have family member that have been mistreated due to their ethnicity because of the use of this term.
I lost my wife of 53 years to the virus. Go ahead and be stupid. Please stay home
We are so very sorry for your loss, Pat. Our condolences to you and your family. 🙁 —Diane at RVtravel.com
Watching the numbers climb daily as more and more areas open up and people disregard the need to social distance … if people do not self distance, do not adhere to safety protocols, it will never get any better.
Rules are much stricter in Canada than in USA … fines are in place … social distancing is enforced … can only have gatherings of up to 10 people (that just increased as of yesterday) … no close contact … no visiting in each others homes, RVs, campers etc … family or friends …
It was interesting that ALL Canadians were ordered back to their country, which effected those wintering in the lower 48 and elsewhere. If they didn’t comply, they would be stripped of the government provided health insurance. Punish your citizens and they will comply. Interesting approach Oh Canada.
One thing being overlooked in the answers is the location of the person answering, There are parts of the country that have experienced very little contact, where others live in “hotbeds” of the virus. That could very well sway their opinion.
Good point, Gordy. Or if they know someone who has/had the virus or, sadly, died from it. —Diane at RVtravel.com
Bingo. New York City is a PERFECT example.
Don’t let that lull you into a false sense of security. Those areas are showing they are now catching up when you compare the number of cases to the state’s population.
Yeah, Wyoming may not have many cases, now. But outsiders, RVers for example, are carrying it in.
If we don’t deal with Covid 19 now we will have a bigger monster later.
I am white and I have worked with many people of different races. What happened in Mpls is a total disgrace by the cop kneeling on a person’s neck for 9 minutes. Read and educate yourself on the treatment of Indians and Blacks for the past 400 years. Many people are fed up with your racist attitudes that keep others in the lowest crappy jobs, housing, health care, financially, to name a few. They are not going to put up with this any longer, and I don’t blame them.
Go ahead and believe all the propaganda that we don’t have to pay attention to the virus. 107,000 people will disagree with you. If you don’t like wearing a mask, you will like being on a vent even less. With some luck, those with such an attitude will be part of the “thinning of the herd”.
Kinda harsh, don’t ya think. Everyone should just hug each other for a moment. Ah, I feel better now suggesting that. Have a nice day 🙂
Be careful of the media hype. More cases sometimes means more testing is being done. It’s Hospitalizations that give a more accurate story. And as this doctor points out, many of those hospitalizations are for things that were not done (e.g. surgery) during the lock downs. This gives a more balanced view. https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fears-mount-over-covid-spikes-data-continue-show-positive-downward?utm_source=daily-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter
Cindy, when fear reins, common sense escapes the masses. I’m afraid the later has taken hold. Sure we all should practice safe hygiene, no different than not visiting gramma with a cold. But, we have much bigger issues now. So, the amount of reporting on the Desease has precipitously declined, now it’s switched to what a bad country and people we all are. NOT.
Be careful of media slant.
When you’re sick you get a test. So, more people are sick, so more people are getting tested. More people getting sick, means the virus is still out there and increasing in more areas.