RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?

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By Mike Sokol

Dear Mike,
I understand the concept of inverters, but what about generators? Does a construction-type generator put out a clean sine wave, or do I need an inverter generator? Noise isn’t an issue, as I’m looking for a back-up power supply for use if the power goes out, and would be running a fridge and freezer along with a few lights and maybe a microwave.

Thanks, in advance. —Tom Herd

Dear Tom,
That’s a great question. So let’s discuss where sine waves come from. (You’ll have to ask your parents where babies come from … but I digress.)

RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?As you know from my article last week on inverters, which you can read here, they basically come in three flavors: Square Wave, Stepped/Modified Sine Wave, and Pure Sine Wave. You’ll remember that while a square wave is really easy (and inexpensive) to generate electronically, it’s bad for the health of motors and sensitive electronics (like your computer). The stepped/modified wave inverter is more complicated to make electronically which is why it costs more to manufacture than the simple square wave inverters of the past. But thankfully, even the least expensive inverters available today produce at least stepped/modified sine wave power. The gold standard are the pure sine wave inverters from companies such as Honda (their famous red generators make DC power and have a pure sine-wave inverter on the output), and Xantrex (who make some great pure sine wave inverters, as well as less expensive step/modified wave inverters).

RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?You’ll note that I’ll tend to compare these various waveforms to the power company’s AC. And if you’ve been inside a power company generator plant you’ll see there are NO inverters to be found. That’s right, they’re full of spinning copper and magnet AC generators, just like the construction-type generator you allude to in your question.

With the exception of some of the newer DC distribution facilities such as solar farms and wind turbines, nearly ALL power generated in the USA comes from this type of AC generator. Doesn’t matter if they’re powered by coal, oil, hydroelectric or even atomic energy. That energy just spins a bunch of big rotors with wires and magnets. We’ve been doing it that way for the last 100 years, since Tesla won the battle with Edison over using AC power vs. DC power. That’s because AC power is much easier to transport over long distances than DC since it can easily be stepped up to several hundred thousand volts for distribution, then stepped down to 120/240 volts for use in our homes and RVs.

RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?In fact, all AC generators make pure sine waves naturally. See the diagram on the right for an overview (and watch this really cool video here). Just like the pistons in your car, which reciprocate in a sinusoidal motion due to the changing angle of the crankshaft and connecting rods, AC generators create a natural sine wave output due to the changing angle of the magnetic flux as the rotor rotates. It’s virtually impossible for a spinning wire/magnet AC generator to make anything BUT pure sine wave power.

However, there’s a reason we don’t like to use construction-type generators for sensitive electronics (beyond the fact that they can be very noisy). It has to do with frequency and voltage regulation. While a well-designed inverter (or inverter generator) has computer-controlled frequency and will automatically regulate its voltage with crazy-good accuracy, standard construction generators don’t do well keeping the frequency at a stable 60 Hz and the voltage at a steady 120 volts. They tend to jump around a lot with a contractor generator, especially as you add high-inrush loads such as motors with starting capacitors (air conditioner compressors).

Now, frequency variations are a big issue for a rock stage show with a Hammond B3 organ which depends on a steady 60 Hz to play in tune (really it does). And a very stable voltage is important for large computers such as server farms, but not a big deal for your laptop which has its own switching power supply and battery. And that’s why I won’t use a contractor generator for a big music show. However, for what you’re planning to do, most any decent contractor generator would work great.

RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?In fact, one of my favorite little non-inverter generators is my vintage Honda EX1000, which is all spinning copper and magnets, with a mechanical speed governor and simple exciter/regulator circuit. It’s definitely NOT an inverter generator, but it’s really very quiet (it’s a Honda, after all), and the power is perfectly clean. I use it for when I want to take my electric hedge trimmers out in the woods behind my house and don’t want to run 500 feet of extension cord. And I’ve used it several times to run a refrigerator all day when I had to cut the incoming power to do some rewiring.

So the bottom line is this: Get a quality 4-cycle contractor generator (not a super-cheap 2-cycle oil burner), and it should work perfectly well for your backup power. Just don’t bring it to a campground where the rest of us have to listen to it. Is that a deal?


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Advanced 3-hour Training Class in Hershey confirmed, Sept. 14. More information and preregistration HERE

RVillage Rally in Live Oak, FL: March 30 (Saturday), 8:30 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. Understanding RV Power & Surge Protection (free seminar). DATE CHANGED

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RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?

 

RV Electricity – Does a construction generator make clean AC power?

Mike Sokol is an electrical and professional sound expert with 40+ years in the industry. His excellent book RV Electrical Safety is available at Amazon.com. For more info on Mike’s qualifications as an electrical expert, click here.

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Scott Taylor

Ha! I, too, have a Honda EX1000 – great little power maker! Starts easy, runs quietly for hours on little fuel, powers everything I need (except my 240V well pump…).

Wolfe

I never thought i’d see the day Mike accepted an open frame genny for anything!

Bill J

Mike – Thanks for your answer to this question. As an electrical engineer like yourself, I believe that the “pure sine wave” inverter/generator folks have duped the public into believing that a contractor generator does not produce a pure sine wave. Your comments about a contractor generator’s lower frequency and voltage stability, and its higher noise, are right on. But as you point out, contractor generators produce a truly pure sine wave. I think you might also point out that a “pure sine wave” generator or inverter does not produce a pure sine wave. In reality, it produces a modified… Read more »

Robbie

Just don’t bring it to ANYWHERE where the rest of us have to listen to it. Is that a deal?