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RV Travel Newsletter Issue 816

Learn about RV camping, RV travel, RV news and much more. This newsletter, now in its 17th year of continuous publication, is funded primarily through advertising and voluntary subscription contributions from our readers. Thank you!

Issue 816 • Week of October 21–27, 2017

Editor’s corner
With Chuck Woodbury
Chuck (at)

When I bought my first motorhome 35 years ago I envisioned a life on the road as a roving reporter. My 18-foot RV would serve as my office, newsroom, darkroom and residence. Not much has changed through the years except my motorhome is now 14 feet longer and I no longer need a darkroom.

I never intended to become a consumer advocate for RVers. For about 25 years I assumed all RVs were well made (except my first one … long story). There was almost never an issue back then getting a last-minute campsite, even in popular National Parks. Reservations were rarely necessary.

Recent survey of readers.

Times have changed: The quality of new RVs today has declined dramatically. And finding an RV park to stay a night or two has gone from easy to incredibly challenging, in some cases next to impossible.

I find myself the lone voice in the industry talking about RV quality and crowded campgrounds. Read the letter I wrote this past week to the communications director at the Recreation Vehicle Industry Association, where I outlined my concerns.

The solutions are far from simple. One huge problem is RVers themselves. The RV industry has done a superb job of selling the romance of RVing — ah, “travel where you want, when you want … and, hey, it’s the cheapest way to travel” (all not true for most RVers!). Ninety percent (my estimate) of would-be RV buyers have no clue that the RV they see on a dealer’s lot or at an RV show could be junk, or at least built so cheaply or with such shoddy workmanship they could face ongoing repair bills to make it roadworthy or keep it that way.

An image the RV industry uses to promote RVing. Such a scene may be possible for boondockers in the West, but for most RVers, this will seldom, if ever, be reality.

RV manufacturers have perfected the “bling” by making even the least expensive coaches look dreamy. They cut corners and offer incentives to their workers to work fast, then rush the RVs out the door often without a final inspection. Way too many buyers are willing to plop down six figures on a 15- or 20-year payment plan without knowing what they’re buying.

Read the horror stories we received last week from our readers about RV quality. Another reader, who I will not identify to protect his livelihood, has spent more than a decade delivering trailers and motorhomes. He told us:

Some of the motorhomes I deliver today, I just think to myself that some nice person who has saved all his working years to buy an RV to fulfill his dreams is going to buy a nightmare. And the RV manufacturers couldn’t care less and the dealerships are not much better. More than once I have thought about selling RVs but I could not bring myself to deceiving the public just to make money for myself.” 

He added: “We are told by the transport company not to tell the dealerships about any of the problems we find in our inspection of the unit before we leave the factory. But I do just the opposite because I feel it only right for the dealership to know.” (Read more of what he wrote where he outlines some of the serious defects on the RVs he’s delivered.)

NOW, ABOUT YOU: You may have a wonderful RV that has never given you problems. And where or how you camp seldom, if ever, requires a reservation. The industry does, in fact, mostly turn out good products. The problem is they too often turn out crap. If you enjoy Russian Roulette, then buying an RV today is a fun game.

This full-hookup RV park can profit from a $5 fee. Why can’t others do it, even for $10 or $15?

BLOWING SMOKE? Some of you think I’m blowing smoke, to which I say: Just wait a few years after 1.5 million new RVs are unleashed onto America’s roads and campgrounds, with barely any new campsites. RV parks — most mom-and-pop operations — are pleased as punch with their packed crowds. Many are bulldozing over RV pads to make room for cabins, which are more profitable to rent than campsites. And as demand for campsites increase so do prices. Lucky you and me!

THE WAY I SEE IT: There is no RV-specific media (other than with any influence writing about the problems in the industry. Bloggers and advertising-supported websites (that’s virtually all of them) write glowing stories. Trailer Life and Motorhome magazines are owned by Camping World, and you’ll seldom, if ever, read anything in either that would offend an advertiser or Marcus Lemonis, the CEO of Camping World and the Good Sam Club, who, by the way, has never even owned an RV.

So who’s left to say anything? Just little ol’ us, I think. And, frankly, we couldn’t write honestly (I’ll explain what I mean by “honestly” another time) if not for the nearly 2,000 of you who support us as voluntary subscribers (roughly 3 to 4 percent of our readers). If we lost all our advertisers we’d still plow ahead because I know more of you would step up with your support. I discussed this further in the special video I sent to our supporters on Thursday. If you have pledged a voluntary subscription and did not get an email alert with the video link, please let me know at chuck (at) to get future editions. 

Oh, before I go, a reminder: Please sign up for our new RV electricity newsletter by Mike Sokol, the nation’s authority on electricity as it applies to RVs. The first issue is next month. Learn how to avoid electric-related damage to your RV or even to yourself or family. Read our story about four-year old Landyn Keener, who died by simply touching his family’s RV due to a hot-skin condition. (Mike and are committed to educating all RVers about hot-skin conditions, and hopefully save some lives.)




U.S. hackers attacked big this week
Slimeballs in the USA tried 3,440 times this last week to hack Turkey came in second with 121 attempts. Hackers from China tried 109 times. The Russians were back after an absence of a few weeks with 94 attempts. Hah! Too bad for all of them: is equipped with super protection to keep these creeps away. And even if they hacked in, they wouldn’t find any info about anybody. We don’t store emails, credit cards, names of readers — nothing of value except a lot of great info about RVing. And they don’t need to hack us to find that!! 

My Roadside Journal
(about whatever is on my mind, not necessarily RV-related)
Good, better, best … huh?
The product pitches I get.

Letters to the editor (your comments are welcome)
Readers’ tales of woe about the quality of their RVs.

Is your RV just sitting around?
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We have a winner! No more entries for this contest, please. The Answer: Necco Wafers. Win this Lasko Personal Heater. The winner will be chosen randomly out of all correct entries received by noon (Pacific), Monday. The question: In the 1930s Admiral Richard Byrd took 49,026 rolls of what candy to the South Pole? The answer is somewhere below. Email your answer to RVcontests (at) We can only ship prizes to addresses with a U.S. Zip Code. Only one entry per household. All entries must include your mailing address and telephone number (only used for mailing if you win) or your entry will be disqualified and we’ll choose the next (correct) entry. Contest ends Monday at noon (Pacific), at which time a winner will be selected by We’ll let you know if you win.

Last week’s winner: Jerry Griffin of Thornton, Colo. He won the important book No Shock Zone RV Electrical Safety, by Mike Sokol.

breaking-newsTotal registrations of new motorhomes for the period of January through August blasted ahead more than 12 percent compared to the same time last year, according to statistics from Statistical Surveys Inc. But keeping the race going were Class C sales, up nearly 24 percent. Class A units were virtual boat anchors, up a mere 0.2 percent.

Canada’s towable RV sales through August were going strong. Compared to the first eight months of 2016, sales were up more than 8 percent. Travel trailers showed a nearly 10 percent gain, while fifth wheels climbed nearly 4 percent. On the other hand, pop-ups fell off more than 7 percent, while park models were flat. Source: Statistical Surveys Inc.

Steve Walser photographed this (“Sisters 2”) Aloha at the Mt. Baker Rally, Lynden, Wash. Sisters on the Fly is a national group of women trailer campers. See a larger image or Steve’s catalog by clicking here. Photo © Steve Walser

The RV industry hopes to profit two ways from the recent hurricanes in Texas and Florida. The first way is obvious: Sell more RVs for displaced families to live in. The second, a little more subtle: Convince displaced workers to move to Indiana to fill open job slots on RV production lines. Elkhart County’s economic development officials are spending nearly $100,000 on an advertising campaign to try and entice folks from hurricane-ravaged states to move to Indiana and take jobs.

Portland, Ore., rolled out the welcome mat for people to live in RVs and tiny houses on private property. In a move that suspends enforcement of ordinances against it, up to three RVs or tiny houses can be accommodated in a business or church parking lot, and one at a residence. The move is to provide breathing space while Portland officials try to come up with solutions to the area housing crisis and homelessness problem.

Several of the campgrounds in the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit of the U.S. Forest Service have closed for the winter. They include: Bayview, Fallen Leaf, Kaspian, Meeks Bay, Nevada Beach and William Kent. Expect most roads to be closed in the unit by mid-November.

If you thought you’d seen all the “bling” possible in RVs, hang on. Get ready for the latest “wave” of high tech – in the bathroom. Dometic is rolling out its “Moderno” toilet and “HandWave” control panel. A ceramic throne with a “slow close seat with silent performance” promises you won’t wake up a sleeping spouse banging that lid down. And don’t worry about touching the thing to flush it, just wave your hand at the control panel. And which flush? That you’ll have to choose. Will it be Gravity, VacuFlush, MasterFlush, or the amazing RushFlush? We kid you not – high tech (and pretty likely high prices) coming soon to an RV bathroom near you.

Photo: Tuxyso /Wikimedia Commons/CC BY-SA 3.0

A scenic stretch of California’s famed Highway 1 might just get a little more room for overnighting RVers. The state’s park service owns a stretch of coastline near Piedras Blancas and has plans in the works for a future five-acre campground with 29 campsites. The $40,000 tab for campground planning has already been paid for with a public grant. But, no timetable as to when the campground and other associated developments might happen. (Photo shows elephant seals on the beach at Piedras Blancas.)

The Sonoma Raceway in Sonoma County, Calif., played host to evacuees from the California wildfires that have been raising havoc throughout several counties. About 50 RVers and at least one tenter took up the raceway’s offer to put up evacuees near Marin, but the facility closed Monday. Evacuees are still being welcomed at Sonoma Coast and Salt Point State Parks.

 Heat your RV with Electricity, not Propane!
SAVE $$$! Until now, the standard for heating recreation vehicles of all types has been to use bottled propane (LPG). With the CheapHeat™ system there’s a better option. Now you have a choice to change the central heating system between gas and electric with the flip of a switch. When you choose to run on electric heat rather than gas, your coach will be heated by the electricity provided by the RV park. Learn more.

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Devastating weather isn’t necessarily the kiss of death for a public campground. Witness Lake Guntersville State Park in Alabama. In 2011, tornadoes wreaked havoc on the campground there and occupancy fell to just 8 percent. After upgrades to utilities and tree replanting, however, the park has turned the corner – with a likely profit of $150,000 or more this year.

Here’s a rarity: Fort Morgan, Colo., officials have opened a free RV dump station, available 24/7. You’ll find it at 710 E. Railroad Avenue near the Senior Center.

TV station KSWT in Yuma, Ariz., reported Tuesday that winter visitors are already filling up some Yuma RV and mobile home parks, well ahead of the normal snowbird season.

A Cal State Chico fraternity, Pi Kappa Alpha, has been ordered to put in 9,800 hours of community service work and pay more than $8,000 in restitution and court fees after cutting down trees in a Tehama County, Calif., campground in April. The group initially denied vandalizing the campground in the Lassen National Forest during an outing, but changed their story and pleaded guilty when they landed in a federal courtroom.

What if they opened the campground, but nobody came? That’s the question in Cattaraugus County, N.Y., after officials started a pilot program for fall camping for two weekends in October at the Onoville Marina on the Allegheny Reservoir. Ninety-two sites are available, and county officials are touting the beautiful fall leaves, but so far, of the 2,000 hits on the park’s Facebook page, none has turned into reservations.

Tank Sensors Reading Full?
Restore them overnight with Caravan Sensor Cleaner
Caravan’s highly concentrated, bio-enzymatic formula is guaranteed to remove the debris causing your tanks to misread. No driving necessary. No dangerous chemicals. No strong odors. Perfect for full-timers and permanently parked RVs. Learn more or buy at

Five families of Florida law enforcement officers displaced by Hurricane Irma now have temporary places to live, thanks to a Davie, Fla., RV dealer. RV Sales of Broward donated new RVs to the five families, with the assistance of a law enforcement friends group that developed a list of families in need.

It wasn’t just those flying ships that were ballooning at the recent Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta – so was one full-time RVer – for a while, at least. Clementine Baksteen was at the festival while very pregnant – so pregnant, in fact, that she delivered Cecilia with the help of hired midwives in the family fifth wheel, while Cecilia’s two older siblings watched the “special shapes balloon glow” with friends.

Effective November 9, it will be illegal to park an RV on the streets of Novato, Calif. Residents can obtain permits “for loading, unloading and cleaning purposes.” City councilors voted four-to-one in favor of the ordinance at the insistence of local residents.

Attention, would-be crooks: Think twice about stealing RVs from repair shops. Katy, Texas, police have a man in custody who didn’t take that advice. Instead, Craig Dwayne Johnson of Sealy, Texas, broke into a motorhome at a repair facility at a truck stop and made off with the rig. He didn’t get far: One of the rear wheels on the “getaway rig” fell off, bringing the getaway to a quick stop. His feet didn’t do him much better, with police scooping the hapless heister and delivering him to jail. 

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throughout the week at

This week’s Reader Poll
How many slideouts does your RV have?
Please let us know. After you click your response, you’ll see how others have responded. Feel free to leave a comment. We’ll post the final results in next week’s newsletter. CLICK HERE.

Read the up-to-the minute responses from last week’s poll:
What model year is your RV? Click here for the results.

Thor recruits 5th graders to work on RVs
Is that true? Is finding RV workers in Elkhart so difficult that child labor is being considered? Well, don’t fear, it’s not going to happen any time soon (probably never). Still, why were reps from Thor at a grammar school trying to talk kids into joining their ranks? Read more and watch a TV news report.

The readers write – Do RVers need a saint?
This week’s compilation by Russ and Tiña De Maris of recent readers’ comments covers the subjects of poor RV quality, RV repair shops, composting toilets, and some concern about the negativity (i.e., honesty) of some of’s articles regarding (have we mentioned this?) poor RV quality, plus some thoughts on how to bring about change in the RV industry (“Saint Chuck”?). Learn more.

Get more from your RV trip – Sit a little longer
Russ and Tiña De Maris reflect on their recently completed two-month, almost-5,000-mile road trip. Things didn’t always go according to plan (sometimes, far from it), but did it spoil their trip? No way! And what did they learn for next time? Maybe you have already come to this realization when traveling. Read more, and please leave your comments.

Truck camper owners: Check those rims!
Truck camper owners, you pack a lot of weight in the bed of that pickup truck. With that in mind, there’s plenty written about the need for checking tires, knowing your load weight, and never, ever exceeding the load capacity of your tires. But there may be another area of concern that comes from this reported tale. Important safety information!

Clean your RV… with beastly-good results!
Your RV’s not your car, it’s your “beast.”
Your RV’s large surface area makes it a beast that collects more bugs, grit, grime, soot and industrial pollution than your car does. And it may have different surfaces of paint, fiberglass, vinyl and aluminum. Click on the video to see Wade clean, shine and protect EVERYTHING with Beast Wash. Click here to buy, or learn more about, Beast Wash at the Wade Maid website.

Is a pure sine wave inverter really needed?
Rich “The Wanderman” discusses uses in the RV for small pure sine wave inverters. The 12-volt system in any RV takes care of most of our camping electrical needs, but having 120-volt house-style electrical power is very useful. Rich has used a modified sine wave inverter, but he recently picked up a 300-watt pure sine wave inverter and wired it directly to the main 12-volt fuse panel in the RV. Does he recommend it? Find out here.

It pays to stop at tourist bureaus and visitor centers
All area attractions at one time or another offer either discounts, free days, two-for-ones, or other incentives. Always check at every tourist bureau and visitor information location you find and ask about your specific interests – as well as some things you may not have an interest in at present yet you may find interesting and entertaining. Learn more.

Do you use an EMS surge protector on your RV?
Many RVers use an EMS surge protector when they hook up their RV to shore power. EMS means Electrical Management System. Some units are built right into an RV, others are portable and are plugged into a power pedestal and then the RV’s electrical cord is plugged into that. Do you have one of these devices on your RV (you should!)? Take our quick survey and learn how other readers respond.

How well do you know your putty tape?
If you do much RV maintenance or repair, chances are good you’ve encountered “putty tape.” This sticky material is a regular performer between windows and walls, roof vents and roofs, and a host of other places where a gasket-like substance is needed to help seal out moisture. For our purposes, there are two types of “putty tape” in play: regular and butyl. How do you decide which to use? Find out here.

Waterless trap for your RV plumbing system
Make foul smelling odors a thing of the past!
Already used by major RV manufacturers, the revolutionary HepvO waterless trap is a fantastic alternative to a conventional ‘P’ trap and it won’t fail due to evaporation, movement, freezing or leakage. Its unique membrane prevents foul air from the gray water tank entering your RV and its in-line design helps create extra storage space! Save 10% off all purchases before 11/30/2017 using code RVTRAVEL10. Learn more.

Readers’ comments on recent articles

Popular street with old folks. Broadway, Virginia

Recent popular articles that attracted high numbers of reader comments
RVs without slideout toppers: Do they leak?
What model year is your RV?
Reader letter: “Stick to basics or lose me as a reader
RV Electricity Newsletter by Mike Sokol – What’s new, you?
Reader opinion: Want better quality RVs? Then pay up
Solar Basics – Know how to determine your solar system.

More popular articles from last week’s issue
Couple disagree on what’s important to haul in RV.
Campground bathroom warns: Don’t drink from the toilet!
Can black tire “covers” be used without causing damage?
 Are tribal fuel stops a bargain?
Losing water from fresh tank vent on steep grades?
 Explaining converters, inverters and generators – Part 3.

Need an RV Home Base?

Then you need Americas Mailbox! You’ll enjoy great tax advantages with your South Dakota “residency,” like no state income tax and low insurance rates (second lowest in the USA says the Insurance Information Institute). Many plans are available. Click the video where RV Travel editor Chuck Woodbury talks with Americas Mailbox owner Don Humes. Or click here to learn more or enroll

No overnight parking at these Walmarts
See which Walmarts in the USA do NOT allow overnight RV stays.

RV Clubs
Check out our Directory of RV Clubs and Organizations.

Reader RVs
Click here to see many submissions from our readers about their RVs.


Don’t toss away good batteries!
Most RVers rely on battery-powered devices while on the road, whether flashlights, radios or cameras. But sometimes you just can’t tell how much life a battery has remaining so you toss it to “be sure.” This small, inexpensive tester will alert you in an instant to the condition of a battery, saving you money from needlessly tossing ones with plenty of remaining life! Works on AA, AAA, C, D, 9V and button-type batteries. Learn more or order.

Ask the RV Shrink

Crashing in the Walmart parking lot

Dear RV Shrink:
We are rather new at RVing. I know many people stay overnight in Walmart parking lots but it makes my husband nervous to spend a night in Walmart or any parking area. It’s not crime or security issues with him, it’s runaway shopping carts. …

Read the rest of the question and the RV Shrink’s advice.

Can’t get enough of the Shrink? Read his new e-book: Dr. R.V. Shrink: Everything you ever wanted to know about the RV Lifestyle but were afraid to ask or check out his other e-books.

The best book on RV electricity, hands down!
RV Travel contributor Mike Sokol is America’s leading expert on RV electricity. Mike has taken his 40+ years of experience to write this book about RV electricity that nearly anyone can understand. He covers the basics of Voltage, Amperage, Wattage and Grounding, with additional chapters on RV Hot-Skin testing, GFCI operation, portable generator hookups and troubleshooting RV electrical systems. This should be essential reading for all RVers. Learn more or order

gas-738Latest fuel prices
Here are the latest U.S. average prices per gallon of gasoline and diesel fuel:
Regular unleaded gasoline: $2.49 (on Oct. 16). Change from week before: Down 2 cents; Change from year before: Up 23 cents.
Diesel: $2.79 (on Oct. 16). Change from week before: Up 1 cent; Change from year before: Up 31 cents.


extinguisher-697(3)RV Fire Safety Tip  

Quick-disconnect fitting on your water hookup
If you have a quick-disconnect fitting on your water hookup, these hoses can be unhooked instantly to fight a fire. If a nearby coach is burning and you cannot move your coach but can safely stay close enough to keep it hosed down, you may be able to save it. Courtesy: Mac “The Fire Guy” McCoy

Editor’s note: Choose from a wide selection of fire extinguishers at Amazon. Here are links from for smoke detectors, carbon monoxide detectors, LP gas detectors, and combination smoke and CO detectors

scenic767The Most Scenic Drives in America
The newly updated trip planner & travel guide will steer you down the most scenic road every time. From Florida’s Road to Flamingo, to British Columbia’s Sea to Sky Highway, to Cape Cod’s Sandy Shores, each featured road trip is pictured in stunning full color and described in vivid text, keyed to an easy-to-follow map. Whether you choose a drive on a distant road or a back road in your own state, this book is your ticket to North America’s most beautiful byways. Learn more or order.

RV Quick Tips

Happy Frog Tires in New Market, Virginia

Get water off your slideout easily
In wet conditions, before retracting your slides, raise or lower the front end of your trailer and almost all the water will run off the slide before it comes in. —Thanks to George B., Casey P., and others who mentioned they do this when their slide doesn’t automatically tilt when being retracted.

Easy way to check electrolyte level in “house” batteries
Are your “house” batteries located in such a way that it’s hard to see the electrolyte level when it comes time to check them? Fred C. knows your pain, and has one commercial solution. “I found a product that is relatively inexpensive, readily available, and very easy to install. It is the Qwik-fill by Flow-rite. This device comes in various configurations for different size batteries and is expandable if you add more batteries. It is available from, Camping World and a host of local RV parts dealers. After using this device for two years, I wouldn’t be without it!” Thanks, Fred!

Do you have a Quick Tip? Send it to Diane (at) and you just might see it here!


Temperature gun is ‘essential equipment’ for many RVers!
Just aim this non-contact IR temperature gun to measure the temperature of your refrigerator, tires, A/C output, or, heck, even your oven (and the list goes on). It turns on and begins reading the temperature in Celsius or Fahrenheit with one press of the trigger. A laser light aids in aiming, and can be turned on or off. Many RVers consider this essential equipment. Learn more or order at a huge discount.

Gizmos and Gadgets

Solar flashlight and multi-function safety tool from Renogy
With the spate of emergencies that are plaguing communities this year, putting together an emergency kit for your RV or home would seem like a good idea. One of the items to include is a reliable flashlight. Renogy manufactures the E.Lumen multi-functional solar-powered flashlight. It also has side LED lights to provide lantern light for reading or performing tasks, as well as being a multi-functional safety tool for your vehicles, with a magnetic mount, seat belt cutter, glass-breaking hammer, flashing red lights and compass. Learn more.

Be sure to sign up for our monthly Great RV Accessories Newsletter. Click here.

insect-screen-761Keep insects and bird nests out of your RV furnace
Wasps, mud daubers, birds and rodents pose a serious threat to the furnace on your RV. They can enter through the furnace vents. Their nests can interfere with air flow and cause serious damage. Camco 42141 (Model FUR 200) Flying Insect RV Furnace Screen fits Duo-therm and Suburban furnace vents. Camco offers several furnace screens so check that this screen will fit your vent. Learn more or order at

gary-736Ask the RV Doctor
The RV Doctor, Gary Bunzer, answers your questions

How to safely jack up a travel trailer

Hi Gary,
I have a 24-foot Keystone Zeppelin travel trailer with tandem axles. I would like to know the best way to get all four wheels off the ground at the same time to service wheels, besides rolling onto blocks to get one axle at a time. The axle owner’s manual says not to jack on the axles. Where is the best place to jack and block for wheel service? —David L.

Read Gary’s response.

Read more from Gary Bunzer at the See Gary’s videos about RV repair and maintenance.

Camping with the Corps of Engineers
Many RVers consider Corps of Engineers campgrounds to be the best in the country. This guide is just for RVers — boat-in and tent-only sites are not included. Of all the public lands, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has some of the best parks and campgrounds available. In fact, it’s the largest federal provider of outdoor recreation in the nation. Learn more or order.

bob-d-med399Ask BoondockBob
with Bob Difley

Fill your free time with an interesting hobby

Hi Bob,
My husband and I have been full-timing for several months. When we first started we rushed to see as much of the country as we could cram into our days. But we’ve settled down now and find ourselves with an abundance of free time. It occurred to us that we now have time to pursue activities and interests that we never had time for before. What do other RVers do with this suddenly realized free time? —Vicki

Read Bob’s response.

Do you have a question for Bob? Email him at bob.rvtravel (at) .

You can find Bob Difley’s e-books on Amazon Kindle.

Check out this huge selection of RV covers.

RV Electricity
with Mike Sokol

Power pedestal testing (including at COE campgrounds), Part 3
Here’s Part 3 of Mike’s article about testing power pedestals, which includes at U.S Army Corps of Engineers (COE) campgrounds that won’t allow you to use your own meter probes. They insist that since these campground pedestals are checked for proper operation yearly there’s nothing to worry about. This trend of not allowing you to use meter probes on a pedestal is for another discussion, but Mike has found a pretty slick way to get around the measurement issue that’s better in the long run. Learn more.

BONUS: No fear. An inspiring story
Mike Sokol is our expert on RV electricity and the editor of our new newsletter on the topic. He’s not well known in the RV world outside, but he’s a superstar in the professional audio industry. He’s an engineer by trade … and he’s even run the sound for Oprah and three U.S. Presidents. He wrote an essay several years ago that is so uplifting and inspirational we asked Mike if we could share it with you. Read this amazing story.

rv-safety-764Mike Sokol is an electrical and professional sound expert with 40 years in the industry. Visit for more electrical safety tips. His excellent book RV Electrical Safety is available at For more info on Mike’s qualifications as an electrical expert, click here.

sponge91FkFZCzPZL__SL1500_Easily clean those stubborn bugs off your RV
The Microfiber Mesh Bug and Tar Sponge has millions of tiny fibers embedded in the microfiber cloth that grabs and holds the dust and dirt. It is so effective it even cleans without chemicals, saving both time and money. The secret of this sponge lies in its unique, double-layer microfiber mesh. Older nylon bug sponges can harm your clear coat, but this one is completely paint safe. Learn more or order

RV Tire Safety
with RV tire expert Roger Marble

Will the “correct” tire pressure issue ever be resolved?
Roger, do you think the tire pressure issue will ever be resolved to people accepting the values recommended by the tire manufacturers based on actual loading? Or will some always be confused between the tables, the placard and quotes of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards from some on the forum? It seems so simple and logical, but some just don’t get it. …

Read the rest of the question and Roger’s response.

Awning torn?
Clear Gorilla Tape to the rescue
This works, and it’s half the price of most other awning repair tapes. It’s not just great for awnings, but tons of other surfaces. Watch the video or click here to learn more or order.

The RV Kitchen   
with Janet Groene

Miser’s Minced Meat Curry
Curry favor with easy elegance. Stretch your budget with affordable ground beef, pork or turkey to make an exotic and elegant curry. It’s one of the most versatile one-dish meals to serve in RV travel. Spoon curry over steamed rice, noodles, pasta, mashed or baked potatoes or toast. Get the recipe.

Check out hundreds of other recipes by Janet . . . and her many books at, including the new “The Survival Food Handbook.” Readers’ Favorite Recipes
with Emily Woodbury

Ray’s Easy Homemade Bread
A few years ago I spent the summer in Vermont participating in a farming and sustainable food systems program. It was such an eye-opening experience: living off the land and farming precisely what we needed to survive. When we wanted bread, we made it, and when we wanted butter for that bread, we made it from buttermilk from the cows in the back.
Read more and get the recipe here.


Propane running low? This will tell you!
With this Dometic LPGC10 LP Gas Checker you can instantly monitor your LP tank’s level. It uses ultrasonic technology to tell you in just a few seconds how full – or empty – a propane tank is. It’s about the size of a writing pen and weighs less than two ounces, so it’s easy to store. For use on steel and aluminum liquid propane tanks. Learn more or order.

Digital RVer
with Geeks on Tour

Google Voice breaks the shackles of your phone number
Would you like to: (1) Have one phone number that rings on multiple phones? (2) Have a phone number that spells something meaningful to you? (3) Receive a written transcript of your voice mails? (4) Use your computer to make phone calls? (5) Get a phone number with a different area code from where you bought your phone? You can do these and more with Google’s Voice service. It’s especially useful for RVers who are constantly traveling and don’t want to be tied down. Learn more in Chris Guld’s article.

Learn about smartphones and tablets
… from Geeks On Tour. Here is a recent webcast: #126, Google Maps: How to add your places. Watch live or archives of past programs

Special offer for RV Travel readers!
Visit the Geeks’ Store to buy a membership. Use the coupon code rvtravel and get a 20% discount off anything you order.

The Pelican Nebula, Serenity Mobile Observatory, Oct. 15, 2017

Astronomy for RVers
with Chris Fellows, Serenity Mobile Observatory

Let the stars be your road map – Part 3
This week Chris takes us in the opposite direction from Polaris, which was last week’s topic, to find a new constellation, one new guide star, and a fantastic object for small telescopes or binoculars, Messier 3. That is the object that sent Chris to the road of the night sky in 2003, when he had just bought his first “real” telescope, and made him the amateur astronomer he is today. Maybe you’ll end up hooked on astronomy like he did. Read more.
[Editor: The photo is not of this week’s topic. It’s just a magnificent shot which Chris captured recently and posted on his Facebook page.]

damp-rid-2-761damprid-761Avoid moisture damage to your RV
DampRid FG50T Hi-Capacity Moisture Absorber, 4-Pound Tub eliminates musty odors in RVs and other spaces, protecting them from moisture damage for up to 60 days in areas up to 1000-square feet, and up to 6 months in a 250-square foot area. Don’t let your rig get damaged from moisture this winter. Learn more or order

“See where you’re going to stay. . .”


RV Park at Circus Circus, on the Las Vegas Strip, NV
“Formerly a KOA location, the RV park at Circus Circus changed names a couple years ago. However, what did not change is its great location right on the Las Vegas strip. Take a look at this urban RV park by clicking here.

Bryce View Campground, Kodachrome Basin State Park, UT
“This is the primitive fallback if the other campground in the park is full. It has more expansive views looking towards Bryce Canyon. Huge sites with lots of room. If you have an onboard generator and don’t want hookups this is a more interesting option. See it by clicking here.”

The motto of is “Look Where You’re Going.” See videos or photos of nearly 16,000 campgrounds and RV parks “as they are,” not as shown in fancy, often misleading brochures. Learn, too, about amenities (water, sewer, pool, pets, cable, Wi-Fi, etc.). Do you own an RV park you’d like spotlighted on Contact Mark (at)

wipers-2-761Extend the life of
wipers-1-761your wiper blades!
Over time, pressure on your wiper blades during storage can cause them to break down and crack. Camco’s Wiper Stand-off Wedges lift the wipers and remove the pressure, helping to extend the life of your blades. Perfect for RVs in storage. Simple to use. Learn more or order at a great low price.

Good reading from RV123.com629-rv123
• Video of the Week: How to Get Unstuck from the Mud
• RV Dealer Donates Campers to Displaced Police Officers
• Featured App: iN-Command Lite

Essential for big RVs! 
2018 Rand McNally Motor Carriers’ Road Atlas
If you drive a big RV — extra long or extra tall — then this is for you. The truck driver’s road atlas shows all the highways you can drive without encountering a low bridge or getting stuck hanging over a cliff. This is an essential aid even if you have a GPS! Coverage: United States, Canada, and Mexico. Learn more or order.

Free and bargain camping

Walmart Supercenter # 1241, Davenport, IA
FREE: Overnight RV Parking is allowed; obtain permission from the store. Park in W or NW part of the lot, away from the store; don’t park in Walmart truck route on N end of lot & don’t obstruct traffic lanes in any way. Well-lit, with level areas near W edge. Quiet and appears safe. Burger King within a short walk. Address: 5811 Elmore Ave. GPS: 41.58147, -90.52653

Husky Travel Centre, Osoyoos, B.C., Canada
FREE: Overnight RV Parking is allowed. Permission from the manager on duty required. Signage indicates 8-hour parking limit, but the manager will grant permission for longer, provided you depart by 8 a.m. Park in SW corner of the lot behind Travel Centre. The lot is level, well-lit, quiet, and appears safe. Dump station is free. Address: 9206 – 97 Street. GPS: 49.036159. -119.478733

Overnight RV Parking, with more than 13,480 locations listed, is the largest and best resource for locating free and inexpensive places to spend a night in an RV. For membership information and a demo of the site, click here. A modest membership fee required, but try the free demoWatch a video about

heated-hose-759Get ready for winter
Keep your water flowing in freezing temps with heated hose
made-in-usCamco’s Heated Water Hose provides safe drinking water in freezing temperatures by combining a drinking-water-safe hose with a self-regulating heat source encapsulated in an all-weather, PVC coating. Operates on 120VAC/1.3 AMPs. Made in the USA. Learn more or order at Amazon.

Upcoming RV Shows

• Panhandle RV Show, Oct. 19-22, Ft. Walton Beach, FL
• Tampa Bay Fall RV Show,
Nov. 9-12, Tampa, FL
• West Palm Beach Fall RV Show,
Nov. 9-12, West Palm Beach, FL
Palm Springs Area RV Show & Sale, Dec. 7-10, Indio, CA

See the complete list of all upcoming RV shows.

Admiral Byrd brought along 49,026 rolls of Necco Wafers (2.5 tons worth!). That worked out to about a pound a week for each of his men (and dogs) for their two-year stay in the Antarctic.

Easy way to add water to your batteries!
Never, ever, let your automotive or RV deep cycle batteries run out of water. Here’s a simple way to keep them topped off for maximum performance and long life. Just use this syringe with distilled water. So easy. Learn more or order.

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del-545This week in history
Week of October 21–27
Compiled by Dell Bert

smokey-only-you-RVT-7451861 – Western Union completes first transcontinental telegraph line.
1904 – New York City subway opens.
1931 – George Washington Bridge over the Hudson River is dedicated.
1945 – The United Nations is born.
1946 – “Wheel of Fortune’s” Pat Sajak is born.
1962 – President Kennedy announces blockade of Cuba during Cuban Missile Crisis.
1969 – “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid” opens.
2003 – The Concorde makes its final flight.

The tongue of a blue whale can weigh as much as an elephant, and its heart is about the size of a Volkswagen Beetle and can weigh up to 992 lbs. Its aorta, the major blood vessel of the heart, is big enough for a human child to crawl through.

Bumper sticker of the week
RVers rock & roll, swing, sway, jerk, shimmy, shake, twist, jitter …

Funny/clever business slogan
Seen at a ranch supply store awhile ago in Cedar City, Utah: “C-A-L Ranch Stores – Great place to pick up chicks.” Thanks, “Full-time Tourist”!

Have you seen a funny bumper sticker or business slogan? Send it to Diane (at)

Joke of the Week
A doctor left his stethoscope on the car seat, and on the way to preschool his little girl picked it up and began playing with it. “Wonderful!” thought the doctor. “My daughter wants to follow in my footsteps!” Then the child spoke into the instrument: “Welcome to McDonald’s. May I take your order?”

Random RV Thought
Now might be your last chance this year to camp in many public campgrounds. Many are still open, with no crowds. But any day now, after winter storms arrive, most will close. So enjoy them now while you can.

Worth Pondering
“Adventure is worthwhile.” —Aesop

Missing Children Report, October 19, 2017 
RVers get around. They not only see a lot of beautiful scenery, but a lot of people too. With 50,000 of us keeping our eyes open, maybe we can help find a missing child. Click here to see six of the currently missing children. Wouldn’t it be great if we could help bring them home?

RV Travel staff 
Editor and Publisher: Chuck Woodbury. Managing editor: Diane McGovern. Senior editor: Russ De Maris. Staff writer: Emily Woodbury. Contributing writers: Greg Illes, Bob Difley, Richard Miller, Richard Mallery, Dave Helgeson, Janet Groene, Gary Bunzer, Mark Polk, Roger Marble, Mike Sokol, Chris Guld, Julianne Crane, Chris Fellows, Wolfe Rose and Andrew Robinson. Advertising coordinator: Gail Meyring.

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cw501About the editor Chuck Woodbury has explored America by RV for three decades. In the ’90s he published the quirky travel newspaper Out West, and was an “on the road” writer for the New York Times Syndicate. His book, “The Best from Out West” is available at Woodbury’s RVing adventures have been profiled on ABC News, CNN, NBC’s Today Show, and in People Magazine, USA Today and in hundreds of newspapers. He is the host of the Better Business Bureau DVD “Buying a Recreational Vehicle,” the definitive guide to purchasing an RV the right way.

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Donald Fredericks
4 years ago

I cannot agree more about your comments about Marcus and his Camping World/Good Sam Club. However his reach under the use of Good Sam name goes much farther than just these two companies. Everything which is Vetted and sold to Good Sam members is controlled by him for his profit. I offer this article about his National General Insurance company actions:

RV insurance? Now that is something we all need but how much do we really know about what coverage benefits we really need? Not to mention what company really stands behind their side of the contract when we file a claim. Certainly not I. Often we place our trust in the recommendations of large representative RV organizations in making our decisions which company to go with. Frankly, I do not have any real answers for you as I am no expert, if there really are any experts, on these matters. Like you I am an RV owner and can only explore this matter from a user’s point of view.
As a benefit of belonging to a RV club, organization or association, one benefit they all seem to offer is RV insurance at a discount. We place our trust in their leaders to vet prospective companies for the best possible coverage at the lowest price to offer it proudly to its members. They then contract with their chosen (I am certain there is a financial benefit to the association.) company to sponsor it to us, the members.
Now we have a choice to make, to accept their offerings or go out on our own. Going with an association’s offerings may offer a mediation of a denied claim if such is included in their contract. Otherwise there really is no difference in how we determine which insurance company we should go with. While the bottom line cost is always a concern other discounts may be offered individuals, who combine multi vehicles and home insurance packages. Whatever your choice how the customer is treated when filing a claim and its settlement is really where the rubber meets the road and pocket.
As I said as a non-expert I can only express my point of view based on my personal experience. In 2004 I purchased a Montana 5th wheel trailer and made my choice via the largest RV association, the Good Sam Club, with more than a Million and a half members nationwide. For the last several years it has been National General Insurance (NGI) as their vetted choice and is their sponsored insurance provider. Of which I have fully met my user side of the contract by making my annual renewal with auto renewal payments. I was insured or, so I thought.
In March 2017, I had an accident when trying to hook up my trailer to the truck which caused considerable damage to the trailer frame area around the hitch. Causing several major brakes and fractures of the frame in several areas. A subsequent claim was filed later when the trailer damage became known, visible and unsafe to tow.
My claim was ignored from the first day of filing for unknown reasons. Over the next four months I sent my photos of the damage and many emails requesting NGI to respond and send an adjustor to the RV service center to investigate the claim. There was no productive response from NGI. I then directed the service center to prepare an estimate with photos to be sent to NGI since NGI was not responding and no adjustor was being sent to investigate. The service center completed the estimate at $6,600 and filed it and the supporting photos to NGI as requested. Still no reply from NGI. This four-month delay in repairs meant we were unable to meet our camping schedule with prepaid reservations and had already missed several campouts.
At this point I sent a letter to the President of Good Sam Club requesting their intervention. They did call NGI and expressed concern about my problem. NGI then called us and promised immediate action. The Next Business day an adjustor was at the service center to complete his review for NGI. NGI ignored the severity of the bent and broken frame parts and citing rust as their reason for denial of the claim. There was no metallurgical report to support any rust which could have caused or contributed to such damage and totally ignored the accident as a cause.
Frankly, I think they were more concerned about their National General Insurance RV Coverage policy statement which reads as follows. “c1 If your RV is totaled or stolen (and not recovered) in its first five model years it will be replaced with a comparable new RV, even if you’re not the original owner. After the first five model years, you will receive your full original purchase price — not a depreciated amount — toward the purchase of the replacement RV. Replacement Cost Coverage must be purchased during the RV’s model year or within the following four years. “ I fully met these contracted conditions.
Faced with three choices of paying $6,600 in repairs for a 14-year-old trailer, totaled under Tennessee law, paying $35,500 in original purchase price, or a denial of claim; they chose to ignore and deny the claim. Their policy contract with me was breakable with just one word on their side, rust. Which meant they would not cover my portion of the contract between us for the past 14 years and I would receive nothing for the accident damage. Which also meant what premiums I paid and what benefits I might have received are all profits to them.
You never know what you have until it is gone. Only then did I find out there was no appeal process or mediation to resolve this matter. I requested a Peer review from both NGI and Good Sam without receiving one. Good Sam suggested I take NGI to court as they have no authority over NGI. I have been unable to find an attorney willing to do so. Small Claims Court has its filing fees and limits and they are not sure who really has jurisdiction. Filing a state insurance fraud claim seems to go no where either.
The bottom line is you cannot live without insurance and generally these companies stand by the policy contracted in most cases. I have learned the Good Sam Club reputation was no guarantee that their vetted choice was the best for its members.
Of course, I am changing my RV, auto and homeowners’ policies from NGI, the Good Sam Club choice, and expecting my new insurer to preform better than NGI. I recommend should you currently have NGI as your carrier you should review your policy and reconsider the same. Also consider this article is based on my personal claim experience with NGI and that they probably stand behind most of their policy holders claims. Only when you have a reason to file a claim will you know if your policy carrier will stand behind your claim.
If you can explore your potential appeal options if available should your claim be denied with your insurance company now or before you purchase. I learned the hard way. Only a claim will tell.

It should be noted I changed my auto, home and trailer insurance and saved well more than a $1,000.

Steven Scheinin
4 years ago

Your crying doesn’t reflect your own poll which shows 78% say the workmanship on their RV is excellent/good, with only 21% saying poor/terrible. It is getting to be tiring.

Chuck Woodbury(@chuck)
4 years ago

Steve, Would you buy a car is there was 21 percent chance it has serious problems? Would you hop on a new Boeing 737 if it had a one in five chance of being poorly built? Would you order a McDonald’s hamburger if it had a one in five chance of tasting disgusting or even making you sick? 78% is unacceptable! Please talk to those folks who bought a defective RV and tell them that 78% is good enough.

Guy sparrow
4 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

The best advice I ever got was . Buy the best quality rig you can afford and don’t worry about what year it is

Harlan Steinle
4 years ago

Circus Circus-I’m currently staying @ Circus Circus and want to warn anyone considering to stay here that this is NOT the quality of place that it was when under KOA. It is run down, overpriced, and theft of personal items is prevalent. Last night my neighbor had a very expensive bike taken (chains & cables were cut). Several other bikes have been taken as evidenced by RV reviews made in RV Park Reviews. trash everywhere. Wi fi is a joke. Even though they say the rate is comparable to the ‘hotel’ rate, we found you could get a room for $18 and our RV rate was over $70 a nite. Trash all over and many broken down rigs are ‘parked’ and looks like no one living in them. Will avoid this place like the plague in the future.

4 years ago

Website issues. Does anyone review the newsletter on on iPad. Increasingly, large blocks of text are covered by ads or other graphic blocks.


4 years ago

If anyone wants a great laugh. Jeff Daniels did a short on RV. He calls it Recreational Vehicle. A 13 minute short. I was in stitches because I can relate. I will post the url here. Not sure if it will work or not. Scroll down to find it. Enjoy.

Jason Laber
4 years ago


I was encouraged by my Uncle to send an email to you about our recent Thor RV purchase gone bad……

My wife and I purchased a new 2017 Thor Miramar 34.3 bunkhouse, a dream RV that we hoped could be enjoyed by the entire family while our kids our still young enough to enjoy. This was our third RV (we previously owned a 2001 Coachman class A and a 2011 Winnebego class C).

We immediately found that the RV had serious QC issues on our day of purchase (screws lying around, fuses missing, brake lights inop and even the chasis AC completely inop to name a few). These things were all eventually worked out. We felt that this is “par for the course” with this RV and were willing to deal with it.

After our first trip, however, we realized that we had a major malfunction – due to obvious QC shortcuts (or none at all). Our RV had a 30 ft full-wall slide and powered by the Lippert Schwintek 500/1 motor system (a poorly designed system for such a slide in my opinion). The slide stopped working on our first trip. We brought it back to the dealer and found, to our dismay, that the system was missing an entire track. It had 2 tracks vice the 3TRAX system that is advertised in their 2017 brochures.

The dealer remanufactured the slide. But we continued to have problems – mainly slide drift while driving and circuit faults.
We sent the RV back to Indiana this past winter, only to have it returned to CT with the same defects (mainly slide drift).

We had to hire a consumer rights attorney and now find ourselves still in litigation while missing out on an entire camping season. Our RV purchase has caused us tens of thousands of dollars due to a lack of simple Quality Control measures. I am embarrassed to admit that I missed the faulty slide myself – but even more upsetting is the fact that no one at Thor caught it either. Clearly, this RV never went through a QC protocol.

I have read so many similar issues about poor QC – many of which cause heartburn and threats of litigation. Many sad stories. The manufacturers are just taking advantage of good economic times – by shortcutting the QC part of RV craftmanship and sales. Too bad! We were once a happy, young RVing family who shared many positive RVing experiences and encouraged friends/others to RV….. Exactly the type of family we would think the RV marketing community values. Now we are disgruntled and skeptical – certainly not proponents of the RVing life any longer.

I could go on. But I think you have the point…..

4 years ago
Reply to  Jason Laber

Thanks soooo much, my wife & I have had the same type of horror story with our 2017 Forest River 34QS. Its had almost 4 months of non use out of the 10 months if & there’s no light at the end of the runnel. Like most RV’s we thought we were buying a quality unit, so sad that the RV industry is getting away with it. I’m fighting back & letting them know we are fed up with their lack of concern, hey this was supposed to be our life long dream, not a night mare!

jane shure
4 years ago

Circus campground is not a very cheap place to stay. When it was a KOA campground I found that some hotels rooms were cheaper to stay at and I see the prices now are no better. I would recommend Sam’s town or Boulder station instead.

Eric Eltinge
4 years ago

Just wish stations would prominently post which lanes have diesel. Usually outside, but not always. Looking for green or yellow handles while constantly circling in a motorhome is ridiculous.

4 years ago

“I find myself the lone voice in the industry talking about RV quality ”

RV Consumer Group has been involved in RV Quality for AT LEAST 3 decades. You are NOT the “lone voice”.

Chuck Woodbury(@chuck)
4 years ago
Reply to  Darrel

Darrel, I have heard both good and bad things about them. They are not journalists. With a small staff, they say they can evaluate which RVs are good and which are bad, like Consumer Reports, which I do not believe is possible. Unlike Consumer Reports they do not publish their findings for the price of a modest, annual subscription. Instead, they charge for them, and they are not cheap. In the several decades I have written about RVing, they have done little for RVers beyond selling them their reports, at least what I have observed. The front page of the company’s website focuses on selling reports, about $50 to $100 each for most. There are some articles down the page, but only two have been posted since early August. Anyway, that’s how I feel about the group, right or wrong.

Jim Krauciunas
4 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

I also feel that I have a lone voice on the problems associated with my Winnebago. If it wasn’t for this site where I can express my issues, I would must likely just implode.
After dealing with the better business bureau, their reply was “we only mediate”, and Winnebago’s answer to them that it is only an inconvenience that the items no longer work, seems to be OK, so they still give them a A+ rating! Attorney General’s office told me that they can only forward my letter to them. The NHTSA just thanked me for letting them know. As they do not have an office that they do business out of in New York, I would have to sue them in Iowa. Maybe this winter when I have nothing to do, I still may.
I may have lost them a few sales in Hershey when I was passed around to three different factory representatives and the last one, only by the name of , told me, “I’m not going to lie to you too, we have no intention to fix the recall, just remove the parts and leave them inoperable”. So here I sit with a two year old motorhome with an option I paid for not working and they still sell it with the same option!

John Hiler
4 years ago

We are on our third Lance pull trailer and will soon probably buy our 4th. Expensive but we don’t have the cheap problems. It all depends on what you want to pay for. Junk is still junk even when it’s expensive. Our Lance fits our needs – comfortable and if I really find the need for a fireplace it won’t be fake – we’ll light ours at our mountain place. We pack light, eat light and enjoy the outdoors so the AC never goes on. If we really need a piece of clothing we go to a re-cycle store and get it. We go along at 65mph or less and don’t drive more than 5 or 6 hours a day. Travel is not a race or battle…

Dave Graham, Flagstaff, Az
4 years ago

I have a 2015 Keystone Montana High Country. We don’t use it as much as I would like but we have gone to the Southwest from Arizona twice in the last 2 years. This last trip in September was 3 weeks. 2 weeks into our trip the 13′ x 1′ fascia board fell down from above the dining area. The nails holding it up were sticking out 1/4″. How can that hold up anything. Luckily it didn’t damage anything too seriously. Montana’s are supposed to be good quality units. Not anymore.

4 years ago

Hi Chuck:

Spending one night in a very nice RV Park at Hollywood Casino in Tunica, MS.

Here’s a question to ponder, when we are talking about over crowding and other issues.

Why Do RV’ers choose a Large Pull Thru Site, when a much shorter one would suit their needs just fine.

Case in point. I have a 41 ft. 5th wheel and a 22 foot RAM 3500. So, I need a large site..

Currently, I am sandwiched between 2 LITTLE TRAVEL Trailers.

Makes you wonder about the selfishness of some people. Other larger RV’s have no place else to park.

Common courtesy is at a premium and it doesn’t show here.


PS. The sites are all the same price. $24.60 per night full hook up.

4 years ago
Reply to  Jeff

First come first served.

Beverly Aguilar
4 years ago

As for free dump stations, Alamogordo, NM has a free one at their Welcome Center on White Sands Blvd near 10th street.

4 years ago

Beverly??? Dan??? Sonora, CA

Jerry X Shea
4 years ago

After 12 years of fulltiming we are changing our lifestyle. We will spend winters in a park model RV in a 55+ senior park in Pismo Beach, CA. Then spend summers in a permanently installed (referred to as a “Seasonal”) 5th wheel in an RV Park in Minnesota. We still love RVing, but no longer need a big diesel pusher. Traveling between the 2 states and occasionally hitting some of our favorite RV spots will be done in a 25′ LEASURE TRAVEL VAN (what they call a B+) with no sideouts. We just toured the factory in Canada and their RV’s are NOT put together with STAPLE GUNS. No cheap manufacturing here. Also takes 9 months to order one. Only 5 of the model we want are made each week.

Victoria Aubrey
4 years ago

Ok, I’m officially drowned in buyer’s remorse. See the USA! OK!
We’ve done a lot of traveling, both in and out of the country. I’m tired of spending hours in researching fab vacation spots, and hours planning time finding a hotel, schlepping suitcases, etc. OK, let’s slow the pace of our vacations, throw away all those brochures and go where we want, when we want.
Let’s do this. We did rehearsal runs to prepare for the relaxing cross -country dream vacation. Let’s face it. It’s not that easy; there is a high learning curve. But we’re still curious and ready to go. OOPS, can’t visit a lot of places….weather disasters…can’t fight Mother Nature.
OK…according to all the editorials and RV articles, I better start researching and planning now! Or who knows what kinds of problems we will have?! Ugh, ugh, ugh. I thought we were into something new?
Our unit was only 40K, a very good quality class C, but we’re 70 and like a little more security when we leave home. How big of a mistake have we made?

4 years ago

Why do you think it is a mistake? My suggestions are have some type of roadside assistance( we have Coachnet), join FMCA they can help with transportation in a medical emergency. We have had situation that didn’t go according to plan, we adjusted and went a different direction.

4 years ago

So you say how some motorhome manufactures are making junk. How about letting us know what are the good company’s that put out good products. You don’t need to name the bad company’s but why not write about a good builder a month and what is the good points so we over time will learn what to look for.

Chuck Woodbury(@chuck)
4 years ago

Gregory, we do post emails from our readers about their positive experiences with RVs. And many do buy virtually problem-free vehicles. But there are far too many that are not made well, and those letters far outnumber those from readers who praise their rigs. Good builders? None of most U.S. manufacturers build consistently quality RVs. Pay $500,000 and you’ll likely get something of high quality with excellent service. But spend $100,000 and take your chances.

4 years ago

Have you considered attrition in your trailer count? You are assuming every RV ever made is still on the road. I see lots of rigs parked in a yard covered with mold that never move.
Granted its prudent to reserve well in advance but we seem to have no problem reserving even a few weeks ahead.
love your newsletter

John Koenig
4 years ago

Truckers AREN’T paying that extra $0.40/gallon. Truckers get SUBSTANTIAL discounts when they buy large quantities of fuel.

Kenneth Pratt
4 years ago

Unfortunately, those associated with the RV Industry are getting a look at what the Automotive Industry has been dealing with for years. The perception of the customer. Many disgruntled customers will get up on a soap box and tell everyone how they were mistreated by the manufacturer or the dealer. Some are valid while others appear to be unfulfilled expectations. Most who have a great experience with anything have to be prompted to tell anyone.

You are right, the RV Industry has made it “chic” to RV thus giving the customer expectations that may not be fulfilled. RVIA surveys would seem to indicate that customer quality and service expectations are being met to some extent. It has become the norm to wait for service, spend time months in advance to plan and reserve parking, expect delays and accept poor quality. Many new RV folks have no idea what they are getting.

Bert Moore
4 years ago

How can we stop price gouging at truck stops,our diesel prices in town are 2.59 but the TA is 2.95 .I find this mostly true every where we travel the truck stops are always .40 cents higher,the truckers pass this on to the places they deliver to ,but they have no choise where they fill up. But for diesel pushers we don’t have many options, cant get them into many gas stations. PRICE GOUGING !!!

4 years ago
Reply to  Bert Moore

Bert: I do a lot of LONG drives to “get there,” so (unlike short-transit folks who can drop the trailer and then refuel), I usually have to refuel with the trailer attached. For safety, I always carry (at least) two 6 gallon cans of spare fuel, and have been self-rescued a couple times by them when gas stations were farther than I thought. However, just for convenience, I often use them at RV-unfriendly gas stations as well — you can often park roadside even if you can’t get to the pump, and then toggle filling/dumping cans to fuel up. Granted, this isn’t QUITE as fast as direct pumping, but it does open up fueling at cheaper off-highway gas stations. With a partner to continuously swap cans with, it’s almost as fast. I use GasBuddy, and often pay 50 cents less than the highway prices.

Lee Ensminger
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert Moore

Bert, I don’t like paying the higher prices any more than you do. That said, I realize I enjoy being able to maneuver easily around a truck stop. I enjoy the multiple [often 8-12] diesel lanes there for my convenience in fueling, as opposed to having to wait for the one or two combination gas/diesel pumps at the usual gas station or convenience mart. There are no high approach/departure driveways where I will scrape the front or back end of my pusher. When you think about it, truck stops often encompass several acres or more of paving to maintain, multiple employees instead of one at the convenience store register. There’s a whole lot more infrastructure to purchase, maintain and pay taxes on than the Circle K with four to eight pumps, and that creates a much higher overhead cost. So yeah-I don’t like paying higher prices either, but I’m willing to do it for the convenience and safety. I also like my chances better of getting good fuel from a place that sells thousands of gallons daily as opposed to a place that *might* sell a thousand a month. So, I think *PRICE GOUGING* is a little extreme.