Would the rude, ignorant readers please leave and never come back

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From RV Travel editor Chuck Woodbury

What would you do in this situation? Let’s say you invited 50 fellow residents in your RV park to a gathering around the park campfire pit, where you would socialize and get to know each other.

But what if two of those 50 people turned out to be obnoxious, loud-mouthed know-it-alls who screamed at everyone about how wrong they all were about everything and how right they were? You’d ask them to leave, wouldn’t you? I would.

Well, RVtravel.com is such a gathering place with tens of thousands of people gathered around our cyber campfire pit on any given day. Ninety-eight percent of them are kind, intelligent and respectful of others. But 2 percent are loud-mouthed jerks who raise their voice at every opportunity to tell everyone else how wrong they are about everything. They seem to believe that God blessed them with wisdom far beyond that of mere mortals.

Well, I am sick of these rude, nasty people. My staff and I work our fannies off to provide a useful service for RVers and we’re proud of it. We try to be accurate and fair about what we write and say. We know that some readers will always disagree, which is fine, but it must be with respect, not condemnation.

He knows everything. Don’t disagree!

It’s come to the point where the angry 2 percent of our audience wants to argue about everything we write and every comment left by readers. No more. These people have got to go.

Starting today, my staff and I re-pledge to do all we can to get rid of these people. Let them go elsewhere. We can’t prevent them for reading this website, but we can prevent them from joining the discussion. Leave the rest of us alone to discuss matters intelligently and respectfully.

And, it would so wonderful if some of the most clueless in the audience would quit telling me I’m a radical leftist because I live in Seattle, where I am surely a socialist or commie because doesn’t every single person who lives here fit that description? They are too mentally impaired to understand that even if Seattle does lean left, there are hundreds of thousands of people in the area who are politically neutral or to the right. So for a reader to tell me (not suggest to me, but tell me) “You live in Seattle therefore I know you are a socialist,” is a spectacular display of ignorance from a person so ignorant they don’t even know it. Who are these bottom feeders of humanity?

The smart people of the world, and that includes most of our readers, celebrate diverse opinions. They know they do not have all the answers, and they yearn to learn more, to become more enlightened. If they are proven wrong, they admit it, their egos unaffected, and they are thankful to be set straight.

From this point on, all disrespectful comments left on this website will be deleted and the readers who wrote them will be banned from commenting again. With them gone, the collective intelligence of those who remain will rise several notches. Ah, what a breath of fresh air that will be!

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Bob Weinfurt
3 hours ago

I’m with you Chuck. Some people just have too much free time on their hands.

Steward H Smith, jr.
6 hours ago

Hear, hear, well written and timely. Way to go Chuck.

Dale Sain
7 hours ago

The beautiful noise you hear on the horizon is the rising thunderous applause.

Asher Wood
7 hours ago

Please do what you gotta do. I enjoy your publication. Keep up the good work. I will get my political abuse elsewhere. 🙂

Mike Neighbours
11 hours ago

Well said, Chuck. Civility is sadly becoming a lost commodity. Keep up the good work.

Gail
1 day ago

Way to go Chuck! It has become so nasty to all those people who work hard on the internet. You are not alone in being trashed and disrespected. I can’t tell you on how many sites I have seen this on. You all work hard to get us the best information out there. Keep up the good work.

littleleftie
1 day ago

Bravo!!! Keep up the amazing work that you and the rest of the staff do. Thanks a zillion.

Shredder J
1 day ago

Thank you for everything you and your staff do to help inform me of what’s going on in the RVing world. You’re appreciated!

Helen Lottridge
1 day ago

Thank you Chuck for taking a stand against rude and verbally abusive people.

David
1 day ago

I definitely agree with the article. I used to live not far from Seattle born and raised. Poeple don’t understand. That the idiots come from all political parties, and affiliates. We just have to respect each others rights and beliefs no matter how we think things should be

Thom Corwin
1 day ago

I love this move! I have noticed the same on other camping social media groups I subscribe to. There are a few that cannot help themselves. I wonder, what satisfaction comes from responding with hateful or unhelpful comments? Why not just pass on by instead of wasting your time. I don’t get it, but I am happy you are doing something about it.

GARY TAYLOR
1 day ago

Chuck’em Chuck!

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RV Staff (@rvstaff)
1 day ago
Reply to  GARY TAYLOR

Good one, Gary! 😆 —Diane at RVtravel.com

Monte
2 days ago

IE. bouncing those without manners. Great news. We read this to relax, not to get fired up.

Loneoutdoorsman
2 days ago

Hello Chuck Loneoutdoorsman here. Please be very careful with censorship. Don’t let the things people say get your tit in a wringer. These 2%ers are a hoot and whatever they say gives me a better understanding of ”what’s out there.”

Doug
1 day ago

Agreed – we have much to learn from the unenlightened.And I find laughing at these folks is the best medicine.

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Kim Christiansen (@imkimc)
1 day ago

Hi Loneoutdoorsman,

Commenting on RVtravel.com is a service we add to benefit our readers and further discussion. When a commenter is rude, crude, uses abusive language or verbally assaults other readers or RVtravel.com staff, deleting their comments and banning them from participating in further commenting on this website isn’t censorship, it’s taking a stand for basic decency.

We don’t have to agree, or even like what others have to say. In fact, disagreement often leads to enlightenment. But we demand that the discussions be civil. Civility isn’t a burden and we should not allow it to be claimed as such. It’s a basic requirement of a polite society.

We want ALL readers to feel welcome and to participate in discussion. But if a someone is so lacking in social skills that they cannot be polite to others, they will reap the rewards of their own behavior. We have commenting rules and if you follow them, your comment won’t be deleted.

Michael Anderson
2 days ago

What happened to civil discourse in our society? Is there no place for it anywhere? Can somebody KINDLY explain to me why posting a tribute to a civil rights icon who led by peaceful example, who HAPPENED to be a politician, why is this “not appropriate” on the editors page??? Chuck wasn’t making a political statement at all. He was honoring a man who devoted HIS LIFE to equality for black people, who did so by marching peacefully, enduring beatings by white racists, and promoting love and understanding of all Americans. Again, WHY is this not appropriate in his column? If you don’t care for racial equality (and there are far too many people who feel this way), then don’t read the article, just move on to whatever article you want. It’s a free country but too many abuse this privilege out of personal self interest, and they totally disregard the feelings and freedoms of other Americans. 

Doug
1 day ago

This is supposed to be a website devoted to news for RVers and even a safe haven from the other news and opinions out there. Once you deviate from that mission, you lose a little credibility. Not sure what John Lewis did for the RV industry but he was no Gary Bunzer. But my sympathies go out to those on the staff who have a sense of loss over this.

Michael Anderson
1 day ago
Reply to  Doug

I understand and appreciate your reasoning, Doug. In my opinion these are truly difficult times for most people. My wife and I have sheltered in our home for just over 4 months now, as she takes medicine to suppress her immune system – getting Covid could be very serious for her. We and so many others have not been able to visit our families on both coasts since then. Many people are unemployed, and have also lost their health insurance. The news is filled with public unrest in the streets, and incredibly slanted political discourse. We don’t watch the news anymore, we read it online so we aren’t subjected to all the negativity.

Yes, the focus of this publication is all-things RVing, and most of the content should stick to that. But during these very difficult times it is so nice to read stories of positivity and words of encouragement. I found comfort and positivity in John Lewis’s words that Chuck posted here. Hard to find that when you stick to news RV sales and repairs

John
2 days ago

Chuck, many years ago in a discussion with a pastor friend of mine, I noted that God had made one mistake. God had made us upside down, at the time in our lives when we were making the most important decisions about our future life, we were to dumb and uninformed to make them. His reply has stuck with me through the years. “That’s why he made Grandparents”. I thought about that for a long time and came to realize the sheer simplicity and truth of the remark.

I am afraid too many of our current society didn’t have access to grandparents. It shows in almost every section of todays hectic life. And unfortunately it is being passed down to the next generation.

While I could argue the rights of all to express there opinions, I can also understand your right to exclude those who didn’t learn from a loving grandmother as I was blessed to have.

God Bless and keep up the good work.

Billy
2 days ago

The phrase I use for such people is “aggressively ignorant” – it’s not something that’s inherently “right” or “left”, since there are people of this sort on both sides.

Carol
2 days ago

I just come here to read the articles, I had not, until tonight, ever seen the comments section! Silly me!

KATHY SCHEIN
2 days ago
Reply to  Carol

Same here!

Amie
1 day ago
Reply to  Carol

The replies can be so useful because they can expand on a topic or provide useful related info. Kind of like Amazon reviews.

Pete
2 days ago

I disagree with your resolution of those you feel are being disrespectful. Why not try sending those people the following:

HI (whatever name you choose) we received your comments today and felt they were being very disrespectful to the person or persons you were referencing. As an example (explain their fault). As a result, we have chosen to NOT print your response, however, if you wish to re-phrase your message, so that while expressing your point of view, shows respect for others, we will gladly publish your opinions. Please read our “commenting rules” before you reply. A “no reply” on your part will result in your being permanently banned from posting your points of view on our web site.”

I had more to say, but I got a message that my input was too long.

KellyR
1 day ago
Reply to  Pete

Chuck has responded in this fashion many times over the years.

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Kim Christiansen (@imkimc)
1 day ago
Reply to  Pete

Hey Pete, staff (mainly Diane) regularly edit comments if most of the comment is OK, but the commenter used some spicy language or a vulgar reference. Usually the commenter chuckles a little and says “OK, I will try to be better” and it’s all’s well that ends well.

In one case this weekend however, a person whose comment was edited became abusive toward staff, and we will not tolerate such behavior, ever, period. full stop.

Being reasonable with a person who is being unreasonable isn’t particularly effective. Sometimes, you just have to put some distance between you and people like that.

Michael Anderson
2 days ago

I welcome this change VERY MUCH. I actually stopped reading a few months ago, then I heard about your beautiful tribute to John Lewis, and stopped in to read more. Sadly, I knew you would receive racist feedback from that article. My wife and I are contemplating going full time next year, but reading comments from so many in the community is making us reconsider. Who wants to be in a campground filled with ignorance? I salute you!!

Monte
2 days ago

Buy your own RV acreage. Thats what I did. Have one in Missouri and looking for a second out West. So glad I had it this Spring when the COVID blew up.

Amie
1 day ago

We have been full timing for a year. The jerks are the same proportion as everywhere else. Don’t let the idea that all full timers not being awesome deter you. Most are really nice and super helpful.