From editor: Update Aug. 4, 2020: Below the video at the end of this post is a link to the website page of the Montrose – San Juan RV Resort where the owners have explained their side of the story.
By Chuck Woodbury
In all my years of RVing I have never come across a story like the one I am about to tell you. Be sure to watch the video below, at least the first half.
Jason Epperson, wife, Abby, and their three children were camped at the Montrose – San Juan RV Resort in Montrose, Colorado. While there, they were enjoying short sightseeing outings.
But then Jason’s computer died. He and Abby, full-time RVers, are popular podcasters with a website to maintain (RVmiles.com). They needed the computer, a Mac Pro in Jason’s case, which was not available locally. So he ordered online. FedEx would deliver it the next day. He had seen nothing on the park website that indicated a product delivery was prohibited.
FedEx showed up on schedule, but the park office would not accept the package. So the driver drove back outside the gate, called Jason, who then walked out to fetch it. After that, he and Abby packed the kids in the car and left for a day in Black Canyon of the Gunnison National Park.
When they returned, an email from the park notified them that they had broken a park rule that prohibits deliveries. They were ordered to leave by 1 p.m. the next day. Jason was upset, but not overly so, and says he was not threatening to Tom, the manager who he tried to reason with. He was “stone cold to me,” said Jason. “You broke the rule. Leave.”
Jason later read those rules, but the shipping reference was under the category “Long term Campers, Lodge and Cabin Occupants.” It read: “Campers cannot use the park address as residence or for mail or package delivery.” Jason and Abby were only there for a few days, not long term. So what rule did they break?
THEY NO LONGER WANTED to stay, anyway. But when sheriff deputies in three patrol cars showed up to escort them out the gate, that was a bit much! Their kids were scared. “We told them the officers were just doing their jobs,” said Jason.
“It will be a long time before we make peace with the stress and fear they placed in our son,” the couple wrote on their YouTube post. “We did our best to make sure he understood he was safe, we were safe, and that our home could easily move quickly, but it was a hard night for him. We can let everything else go, we can laugh at the situation, but it’s hard to stomach what Tom did to our kid.”
The park said it would not refund their prepaid rent for the next four days, about $200. Jason and Abby have since asked their credit card company to stop payment.
Jason talked to a park neighbor who said she had rented a space for a short time, then had mechanical problems and couldn’t leave. “They made me read the park rules out loud as a condition to stay,” she told Jason. Reviews of the park at Yelp.com reveal similar tales along with a rating of 1.5 stars out of 5.
I urge you to watch the video Jason and Abby streamed live as they were leaving. As you will see, they were incredulous at the treatment they received for simply ordering a package delivery.
We called the park several times throughout the day yesterday for a comment, but only got voicemail. The video has received 70,000 or so views already, so perhaps the park does not want to deal with angry phone calls.
Update August 4, 2020: Here is a link to the website page of the Montrose – San Juan RV Resort where the owners have stated their side of the story.
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I’m confused. What “Law : was broken by the family to have an item delivered? The police had no business there to enforce the parks rules. When asked to leave , only if they refused, then and only then should one officer have been called ( not three) . It is also for that reason that I will never pay more than absolutely necessary on rent because ,as far as I know they all keep money paid in advance
Sheriff’s records show a “disturbance” occurred .
My guess is the mgr called the police and complained about a “hostile” camper breaking rules. Avoid at all costs
T Edwards — Who called it a disturbance? The RV park? Was anyone charged with a crime?
No details. Only a single line on the blotter describing the reason for the call-out. I would recommend they obtain a full report of the incident from the Montrose Co. Sheriff’s department.
We had a similar reaction to refunds where we stayed 4 months out of 6 at Morningside RV Resort in Dade City FL last winter. We had reserved a 6 month stay, the rules for refunds stated refunds would only be given in cases of illness or a death in the family, this was posted on their website. My knee went out and my wife needed to return home to have excess water that was accumulated around her heart removed. An Orthopedic surgeon had diagnosed my knee as needing immediate knee replacement surgery. Not wanting to be stuck in FL for 4-6 months of recovery we decided to return home to get the procedures done. Going to the resort office with this info to inform them we needed to leave early and would be checking out as soon as possible. They informed us that since we had checked in the rules had changed regarding refunds and all we got back was the deposit for the gate remote and PO Box key. Since I had not printed the rules prior to going there I had no proof of the of previous rule.
I had a similar problem with the Memphis KOA in June. I paid for a 1 night stay and then the riots hit Memphis. As I am a single woman and was taking a granddaughter, I decided that I should cancel my reservation. Cincinnati KOA was very understanding and gave me my refund. Memphis, which was my second stop, not so much – but I did a charge back and got some of my money back. It pays to try.
Thank you for informing us of this possibility. We’re set for our first snowbird trip south this fall. I’m taking a closer look at the RV park rules as a result of this article and will ask about delivery policies prior to future reservations.
I am torn with this but agree the actions of the park were over the top. However, I always ask the park owners if I can receive a package, I don’t assume. Then the rules would have been pointed out and a different solution could have been discussed.
Avoid this park and their Gestopo-type rules like the plague. If the extent of their human understanding is to throw out a tenant for breaking a rule that at first glance would not seem to apply to the family, and to call the police, they don’t deserve to accommodate RV’ers. I could see mentioning the rule to the visitors asking them not to arrange for any deliveries while on the property but such an ugly knee jerk and inhuman response was over the top. When a business stops caring about their customers they deserve to lose them all.
We also always ask and don’t assume we can receive packages – so part of the problem does lie with the renter. And I agree the owners were a bit over the top but it’s their place and they can run it as they like. I mean if everyone sent all their packages to the office you can imagine the mess they would have to deal with.
I believe I would have called the Sheriff as well. These days it seems you are much better off to cut off any potential physical conflict before it happens. And the Sheriff appears to be not in their face.
I wonder if there is more to this story. Tom may be the manager but I doubt he is the owner. If he is the owner, he is a foolish one. Word gets around pretty quick in the RV community and he may find himself short of customers in the future, especially over frivolous details like package deliveries. On the surface, Tom’s reaction was excessive since it appears that the term “Long term Campers, Lodge and Cabin Occupants” had no clear definition and there was no example of any wrong doing on Jason’s part.
As a new member of the Escapees I was unaware of one of their rules about mail. All mail going to campers or residents of the Escapee campgrounds is supposed to go through their mail service, and not sent to the camper at the campground. Perhaps I need a class about all the rules, including the unwritten ones.
I’m also an Escapees member and have memberships in two co-op parks. I don’t believe there is one rule for all SKP parks, so please check each park to be sure you’re complying. We don’t use the SKP mail service, and find it surprising they require it for packages anywhere. It sounds like there might be some misunderstanding here, and I urge anyone staying at an Escapee park to check the specific rules of that park. The SKP philosophy is “sharing and caring,” so if they can’t receive a package for you, they can recommend how you can get it delivered to you.
Boycott that park, and thanks for letting us know. I would also contact the owner of that park and file a complaint. Seems like he received the package outside of the gate, not inside…..Also, why are ads covering up some of the story above?!
A couple of things come to mind. One is the scam this manager is running. Have someone evicted and not refund the money and turn around and rerent the space so it’s a double dipping income. The other is disbelief watching a law enforcement officer having to deal with this ridiculous complaint. Such a waste of the LEO’s time. I noticed in the video that the park wasn’t bursting with campers so maybe the well deserved bad revirws are working.
Sounds like there should be, if not already, a “rv park to avoid app, (with testimonials given by unhappy campers) and this place should be put on it immediately! There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. Put the word out. Put this guy out of business by not camping there.
Explains why “Under new management” is often used as an ad for a business.
i went on the parks website and can find nothing about no packages. the ony rule i find is a motorhome can not be more than 10 years old without management permission. i thought to evict someone takes a court orde,. which takes a while to do.
Not sure how Evictions work in other states, but ALL should go through the court. They do take time, especially when it is for something other than non payment of rent.
I hope there is a list of Campgrounds like this to avoid.
Thomas — I believe a court order to evict would only apply to long term renters, who would be “residents.” That’s the way it is in some places, at least.
There are some really silly campground rules out there. At a well known campground in northern Michigan recently I discovered on checking out that I owed a “visitors fee” of $7.00 for 2 days of being visited by my wife’s brother on 2 separate days of $3.50 each day. He stayed for an hour each day. I paid it and promptly cancelled my associated campground membership and will never use that campground again at this site or any other connected with this campground chain. Posted this experience on a popular travel site and to date have had over 4000 positive responses and thank You’s from other RVers for the info. Wonder how much that $7.00 charge has cost them to date. Sometimes people cut off their nose to spite their face.
I’m not surprised by the actions of this campground. The need for more competition in the industry is evident. The part that surprised me was that their son was traumatized by the presence of the police. This may be the result of the negative publicity our officers get from the press and there “Defund the Police” movement. All ridiculous!
Are you kidding me? 😀
How did you feel when your parents got pulled over for speeding? Even when they told you it was all OK? I Our son has sensitivity issues and was scared. To us the whole event was laughable until we discovered the history of this man’s abuse of people who travel in RVs. Our son’s feelings are perfectly normal.
Keep this video, active. Hopefully it will put them out of business. I see a number of things, that people should be removed, but not receiving a package. Tech they left the camp ground. If this was me, the law suit would be in the seven figures.
Maybe the manager feels he has an HOA to run. That is like some of the horror stories I have heard from them.
His reaction to the Fed Ex package is totally ridiculous. And to call the police on top of that. Wondering what he told the police to get them to visit and observe?
I wondered about that too, because 3 patrol cars? Either the police and the RV dude were friends or these police officers were somewhere *****.
Sheriff’s blotter listed it as a “disturbance” .
Being full timers, i am pretty sure that they have received packages before , so they can post this video and the campground will have to deal with the bad reviews, it will not refund their money but such is life somtimes …
Well, that’s one RV Park to scratch from our list of places to stay! Good grief…
This article hurts my heart. As a Marine who loves our country and I grew up camping in Federal parks so this is a double whammy. Im not sure if Tom is the owner but for the sake of kids and the situation I def think it could have been handled different. The park owners sound a little narcissistic with the rules and management. Sad…
Supposedly this guy “Tom” was a Marine, that’s gotta make it hurt you even more.
We have traveled for over 3 years. Stayed on over 100 places. We have received packages at least 5 to 7 times. We have always cleared with the park before placing the order to insure that the place will accept the delivery. While agree eviction without refund is overboard, as a quest just to make sure you get your package should be cleared with the management. We always get the name of the person we talk to and advise them at check in we have cleared to receive a package. While the campground should get a bad review to wish them out of business is out of bounds.
I will definitely cross this campground off my list of places I might stay. Based on the way they treated this family it’s obvious they don’t care about their customers. Why would anyone want to stay in a campground and be treated like this? And then to have the place keep the money they paid for the additional nights. That’s why the sheriff should have been called, to force the owner to refund their money.
That’s why we avoid rv parks altogether.
I know what it’s like to be “kicked” out of a park. How many can say they’ve been kicked out of a NATIONAL Park? I totally understood the reasoning behind it though. Two years ago, my wife and I were camping in Yosemite – having a wonderful time. We went to the chapel on a Saturday morning to attend a memorial service for my folks and spread their cremains in the woods behind the chapel (and YES, it is allowed IF you get the proper FREE permits and follow the rules). We went to the Ahwahnee hotel for a wonderful family brunch afterwards. When we got back to our campsite, the campground host came up to us and told us that, because of the huge forest fires in the area, the park was being evacuated and we had to leave by noon the following day. Yosemite National Park was vacated by all residents, all staff and all visitors on the following day – only persons allowed to be in the park were the firefighters. Ended up driving to the coast for several days and the adventure continued.
That’s just a crazy over-reaction, and not a park I’d ever consider. We tend to do BLM, State and National parks. Once our Amazon cart gets full, we pick a private park for a week specifically to get anything we need delivered. Because of that, when making my reservations, I always ask about getting deliveries, and the best way to address my packages. Some places receive the packages at the main office, while other places the delivery carriers come directly to your site. In this situation they weren’t aware at reservation time they’d be needing to get a delivery.
Terrible reason to be kicked out but great storytelling by you both. We love Colorado and you can rest assured that we will never go to this campground and support that type of behavior. God bless and safe travels.
A rule on page 4 that clearly says post office, no post office was used for this delivery, A delivery company brought it to you campground, you took it upon yourself to go get package on the road, it was not delivered to the park. I see a lawsuit coming out of this kick out
….and if they spend enough time and money on a lawyer they will be successful.
Hey, the delivery guy was OUTSIDE the gate to hand off the package to the recipient who then walked out the gate to take possession of his new computer. The entire transaction took place on the street!
So what was the “crime?”
The crime was he still got the package which I am sure infuriated Tom and that is why he evicted them. If he did not get the package then they may not have been evicted.
Sounds like the “manager” is running a scam with the blessing of the owner. Wonder if the police dept is tired of getting called for each person being thrown out. I hope they sue.
The way those folks were treated was utterly ridiculous.
Montrose is only about 160 miles north of me, and we get by there once in a while. I know now to never grace the gate of the Montrose-San Juan RV Resort! I will also forward this story to my RV buddies.
I hope every RV owner gets this info about this Colorado park, spreads the word that no one ever stay at this park while this nasty owner owns the park. Put him out of business.
Well this campground is off my list and I am making plans to stay in this exact area for a few days. This was a huge over reaction by this park but the situation was handled well by you guys. Sorry you had to go through this. I have seen this story on several blogs and RV related venues that have national audiences. They are famous now.
Please do not think all Coloradans are like Tom! Being a native Coloradan, I am appalled!
Since I am planning a trip out in that area, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT I DO NOT STAY AT THIS ‘RESORT’ and will make sure all my friends know about this situation…. They could have solved the problem by talking to them [this once] and / or putting a box outside the gate for deliveries…
During the video we was told that the campground had changed their name several times. Makes sense for the owner to do that. The majority of the time campground reviews are listed by name and location, but attention is given to the name, also, if the campground is very busy then keeping their money was a double profit as they then rented to someone else creating a site that was profiting them double. Great business.
Maybe not long term!
Well I find it unfortunate what happened to him. We had also had to have package delivered one time but asked office before we ordered. It is always wise to ask don’t assume. That is my experience. So sorry for the children.😞
We winter in a friendly RV park in Mission, Texas and Fed Ex and U.P.S. are in and out often every day. (Retired people need things). We also get mail delivered every
day at the individual bank of mail boxes in the rec. hall. No such restrictions here.
That’s Texas we are nice folks!
While I agree it’s a silly rule, it is a rule and the park owners have a right to make rules. Lesson that should have been learned, read ALL the rules (even if there’s 4 pages of them) before you pay to stay. It was your mistake, not theirs.
Nan ,the best parks we’ve stayed at have been those which are not smothered with signs and reams of paper informing mature adults what they can and can’t do.
We stayed at one place in Idaho a couple of years back, where parking was all on natural grass. After paying for the night, we were directed to the “rule” in the three page rule document, that if we so much as turned a wheel causing the grass to stir, we would be promptly asked to leave and not return.
We didn’t disturb the grass, we enjoyed our one night stay overlooking the beautiful Snake River, but we;ll never return.
Rules are needed for sure or our parks would be a disaster, but we’ll choose carefully those which we feel are necessary to ensure a pleasant stay and those resembling a concentration camp experience.
Hmmm, you sound like you might be a relative of Tom’s.
EDITOR’S NOTE: We removed Remo’s comment and blocked him/her from commenting again.
Remo – Your response and tone is uncalled for and rude. It was an article that anyone could have written. Was the rule broken? Absolutely. Should it have escalated to that? No. And that’s the point you seem to miss.
Based on what I read, to me, the RV park owners lack empathy and probably have low EQ and IQ. Any normal person would have reminded them of the rule and ask them not to do it again. You know..the difference between a nice person and a butt-head.
Before you say it – I only lean left because my left leg is shorter than my right – I’m a Texan and a Vet! I lean right but being respectful of others is not a political issue – it’s a humanity issues.
The continued dumbing down of America makes the movie Idiocracy a documentary instead of a fictional comedy.
You’re the perfect example of what Chuck described as someone who should be banned from posting. Obviously uneducated yet opinionated, intolerant yet biased, hostile to anyone not sharing your opinion. Chuck didn’t write the article, yet you’re blaming him. The RV community doesn’t need or want your opinion.
Not a relative of Tom’s, but I get a little tired of the “entitlement” culture. If you make a mistake, apologize and move on. Don’t blame somebody else.
Nan, they did NOT break the rule. It only applied to “Long term Campers, Lodge and Cabin Occupants.” And seriously, don’t you think they went too far when they called the sheriff? There was absolutely no reason to go that far.
I would assume that if the long term campers weren’t allowed to receive mail at the park, short term wouldn’t be allowed either. Too bad the camper didn’t read the rules before he used the park address to receive the shipment because he could have asked for a clarification. Maybe the park doesn’t have the manpower to serve as the U.S. Postal Service. As for calling the sheriff, it might have been an overreaction, but I wasn’t there, so I can’t say.
The rule was for long term campers, they were there for a week. It was the park’s mistake and it’s going to cost them lost of $$ in lost money.
I applaud the authors for letting the RV world know, as they owners have cleaned up Trip Advisor. Yelp seems to be more honest.
Look under Black Canyon Jellystone on TripAdvisor. That’s their old name, I think until last fall. But they were able to get a new listing for the new name. It’s actually the worst of the worst reviews out there.
Well, Nan……
There’s the letter of the law…….
And there’s the spirit of the law.
Then there is the ignorance of the law, which you and the park have down pat.
I think the camper who was kicked out showed “ignorance” of the law.
Nan, the only rule was directed a long-term residents. Did you even read the story where we posted the specific rule? The campers who were evicted did not break that rule. Next time you comment, read the story and try to understand it before wasting everyone’s time with an uninformed comment.
This is the rudest thing I’ve ever read. RV Travel has just lost a subscriber… I stand by my comments and I stand by the Park Owner. Guess you’re one of those people who can’t handle a different perspective.
Nan — why would you read rules that didn’t apply to you if you aren’t a long term camper? After that many pages, I would have stopped reading since my section was done. Lots of other better things to do unless I’m stuck on the toilet. 🤦🏼♀️
Didn’t you just threaten to unsubscribe to RV Travel because of a different perspective? I guess you are one of “those people” too.
Sorry to hear about the rude treatment that you got RVMILES. I’d like to take Tom out to the wood shed and teach him some manners. The owner as well. Old Tom needs to be fired. I’ll bet in a month or two the name of this RV resort will change again…Lol Be safe out there.
When my dad was in business,he said ” you cant get free advertising better than this” unfortunately in this case free isn’t good. Glad the video was shared to the masses. Although I will never be in the area to use this campground, word if mouth will effectively make a BIG dent in their bottom line.
I hope the cc company refunds his money.
We stayed at this place last year. Like many parks, they gave us an ID card for the car. We drove the car somewhere, and I took the card off the rear view mirror so I could see better, and propped it up in a visible position right under the mirror. When we came back, I think the lady running the park called to say that we did not have our card hanging from our mirror. I forget what I told her, but it probably included that we would do so when we left the park in the future.
Some time later, the male park attendant (Tom) came banging on our door to say that we still had not hung the card from the mirror. Once again, I don’t remember exactly what I said, but it probably wasn’t polite. He threatened to throw me out of the park for not following the rules. So I probably went and hung the sticker, using the “official” rubber band he had brought.
I’m amazed that these two crazy people are still running the park more than a year later.
I just looked at the website and it says it’s under new management. I wonder if that was since this incident. If so, not really fair to the new owners. In any case, it would have been nice to hear the other side of the story if they had answered the phone when RV Travel called for comment!
Allstays reviews shows the same couple (Tom (the marine) and his wife (the general)) have been running the park since at least July 28, 2017 so no new management
It is not under new management. The same couple still run the park. They were supposed to leave this year, but instead, all the work campers left all at once while we were there. It was pretty crazy to see the entire staff pull out because of a crazy manager.
Sounds like a park that needs to go out of business if it has the same owners/management there. Had I been there, there would have been hell to pay because I get my medications by mail every month from the Department of Veterans Affairs… and if some RV park is going to play games with me getting medication, you can damn well bet I will be making a very public stink about that.
Good place to avoid. Life on the road can be challenging enough without putting up with this type of petty park managers and the parks that hire them.
Thanks for naming the “resort”.
A professional run RV Park would treat you as a paying CUSTOMER and tell you Oops you cannot take deliveries here for such and such given reason. Thanks for adding “Montrose – San Juan RV Resort in Montrose, Colorado” to my STAY AWAY LIST. I have accidentally broken rules before but wasn’t thrown out. I I.e. I put some Hickory chips for smoke flavor on the campfire that violated the rule “Charcoal only” . Wood chips are not charcoal , the ranger just told me to put the little bag of chips out of site and to have a good evening. I wasn’t thrown out. A 1.5 rating wont be helping their business when this newbie RV rush is over.
That treatment is shameful! That rv Park should be totally boycotted! We encountered a few strange rules on a trip we just got back from. One was no one was allowed outside of their rv after 10 pm AT ALL! We couldn’t sit at our picnic table or chairs and have a conversation over a glass of wine! No lights on at all on outside of camper even. We thought it was ridiculous…..but not even close to what happened to you!
Spread the word
Near and distant
San Juan RV Park
Is off the stay list.
B O Y C O T T !!!!
I tried to post your article to the View/Navion camper forum with no success but rest assured that I will be passing along this information about the Montrose – San Juan RV Resort. Everyone has broken a simple rule someplace during their life and expects to be able to correct the “mistake” and move on with life. Evicting a client is not a normal or rational thing to do. I am sure that nothing effects the managers at San Juan RV Resort because in their mind they are always justified in their actions. I do feel sorry for the police having to continually provide free services to the resort rather than deal with real issues.
Totally ridiculous. And they did not receive a delivery there, since the office turned FedEx away and he went out of the park to get the package. Should be a lawsuit, hurt the campground in the wallet.
TOM broke hos own contact he was enforcing the wrong clause.Toms a hard head somebody will help him with someday!
Jason, Abby ~ Be sure to take advantage of BBB and RV Campground review sites to spread your story, so Karma can come back to San Juan Resort!
We are in an rv park that does not like package deliveries to the rv site because of the dust and pedestrian traffic. The packages are dropped at the office and you are notified by a message board posted at the office. Works great
We stayed there 4 years ago when it was a Jellystone. We were there for a Fulltime Families rally. The managers at the time were awful, and it sounds like nothing has changed. I know they lost the right to be a Jellystone, but I can’t imagine how this place stays in business. The people that work there are crazy, and the reviews are terrible.
I am so grateful for this article. I need a package delivered and had planned to call and have it delivered to our next park where we will be staying for 10 days. I never even thought about there might be a rule about package delivery. Sorry this happened to this family but it possibly is keeping me from being evicted🤣🤣
Enjoyed the laughter over a bad situation. Thank you for sharing!
Some Walgreens accept packages.
This reminds me of a park I stayed in, in Missoula, Montana, jim and Mary’s, such a pretty place with flowers everywhere. We went on a few excursions and the evening before we left, I used their laundry. $2.00 each machine and had to dry clothes 3 times because machines didn’t get hot enough. Walking back to my site I heard a big hullabaloo, a work camper next to us telling my husband he couldn’t wash his car. He wasn’t washing it just a quick stitch to get dust off our windshield before putting it in the trailer. Well this brilliant work camper told my husband he could cuff him, soon lady manager shows up, she says she could evict us, thank god we were leaving anyway, never was treated like that in our 5 years on the road, these people are nuts
you know the saying, The proverbial saying ‘power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely’ conveys the opinion that, as a person’s power increases, their moral sense diminishes. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely” is the best known quotation of the 19th century British politician Lord Acton. I would send them a note saying we won`t be coming by as planned or ever.
Who is the “idiot politician” you speak of?
As a workamper all the parks we worked in accepted packages and mail both for long term and transient. Never heard until now of parks not allowing it. I would say as you travel to be certain when making reservations ask to make sure you can have mail and packages delivered. If they do not want packages, arrange to pick it up at the warehouse or if they are UPS at their store.
Don’t forget when this happens to post a review of the park anywhere on the internet you can find.
We always ask the park. If we need something and know it will arrive before we are there, we call and ask. If they say ‘no’ we make other arrangements.
Yes name changes for crappy operations,(being nice you have kids) . Please provide physical address and GPS coordinates. You know they’ll be called something different shortly. At least people can stay away no matter what they call themselves. But I have suggestions.:):) Just tell the kids this is a story they can tell their kids someday.
Oh, don’t forget the lawsuit for deceptive practices. Plus you went outside the gate therefore you broke no rules. You received your package on public property. Good luck and please keep everyone updated. Safe and much happier travels.
If your still near Ouray Colorado, The KOA In Ouray is fabulous. Tell Penny they Hayes’s from Maryland (needed a quick cabin) referred you
Wow, that’s outrageous… We went on a camping trip and when we arrived I realized I’d forgotten my CPAP machine for my sleep apnea, I called and had family overnight it to us at the campground…. I’d be livid if they’d thrown me out for something like that.
Thanks for letting EVERYONE know of this camp ground now the camping world know how shitty they are to good paying folks. They must not need the business or money. Hey, Let’s all take our money down the road and keep spreading the word about bad camp grounds! 👍
Not agreeing with it, however many states view receiving mail as the creation of tenancy law. In theory, by receiving mail it could be argued that you are a tenant and are afforded rights as such, things like 30 day eviction notice and needing to actually go through the court system to file a legal eviction to be removed from the property, as if you were renting a house or apartment, even if not paying. Depending on their individual zoning laws, they may be trying to avoid such a situation or have dealt with that in the past. Terrible customer service and not agreeing with it, normally the office will accept the package for you when I have encountered this, but that could be why.
Yes Chris, this is understandable. I learned my lesson just last week when the county park I’m staying in for 2 weeks, refused my medical package from the Post office. I was able to get the PO to hold the package for me to pick up. I will ask from now on.
In the future you can use USPS general delivery to get your packages if you are able to get to a post office. I come from a live aboard boating background and many boaters use this method, It isn’t as easy as fedex or UPS but for meds and such it can literally be a life saver.
The Post Office will not accept packages from UPS or FedEx anymore. I found this out the hard way
I feel this to be ridiculous. Even ifvtherd is done obscure law or ord
I agree this is probably why. But accepting the package OUTSIDE of the gate would automatically negate any legal responsibility of the campground. And any tenant laws would no longer apply. So what happened was he ATTEMPTED to have a package delivered, but RECIEVED the package off of the property. If that was all it took to establish residency, I could just have a package delivered to a random house, then wait on the street for the guy to try to deliver it. Then pick it up at the facility. And claim my residency.
Also I wonder if the driver checked the ID if the person picking it up, surely it wouldn’t have the campground’s address on it, so it’s possible he could get in trouble for delivering it to the wrong person. (Though, we know it wasn’t the wrong person. But How do you PROVE that)
I think LEGALLY speaking, the campground was wrong and possibly kicked them out illegally. (I don’t know if any other rules they have might have supported their removal.)
Interesting story anyway
I’ve had packages delivered while on the road, and had no problems — but I make no problems. You have to understand that the campground is taking legal responsibility for and possession of your goods (imagine if you shipped something illegal?). So, you ARE asking a favor, so to speak. I’ve called ahead and asked, not told them. If they didn’t want to conveniently receive my package, I’ve used “hold delivery” and General Delivery (held at a certain FedEx or USPS office, where I can pick up with ID — actually preferred if I were shipping a laptop as in this story!).
As for the particulars here, the campground SHOULD have had no say after refusing delivery. It’s “weird” to receive their package outside the gate, but totally legal as far as I know. Eviction seems absurd, but it may indeed be a legal residency thing they didn’t want to get tangled up in. Lawyers ruin everything, afterall.
I see this as ridiculous. Even if there is an obscure law or ordinance about this, the RV Park manager should have given you a WARNING. And if you do it again, then you will be asked to leave. As for not getting back the deposit money I believe that this park is giving the Sherriff a KICKBACK. Especially since it seems to happen, ALL THE TIME.
After all is said and done, I would write a scorching review of this RV park without getting to a point to where the park sues you for defamation.
You should know this person commented on a Facebook post that he verbally abused the manager
Which person? Because it certainly wasn’t me.
This is UTTERLY DISGUSTING! They unknowingly ‘violated’ some rule which DIDN’T even apply to them, so they were EVICTED? By the POLICE? AND, refuse to remit unused funds which they CANNOT use? Heartless! I stayed there once, some 8 years or so ago, but I will NEVER do so again! This doesn’t bode well for the city of Montrose, either!
I have had packages and mail delivered to many campgrounds throughout the US and never had a problem. In fact, a letter came to us in Pearland, tx and they called to find out where they should forward
That’s good service!
I am from Pearland and glad to hear about their consideration.
That’s Texas we are nice folks.
A fish stinks from the head down. Management is a reflection of ownership. Question, if it had a 1 1/2 star rating, why did you stay?
Michael they saw the note on the front page of the park’s website that said “Under New Management” and assumed the comments were about the previous management. Plus, most of the parks in the area were full.
You are an idiot saying this problem might because of our president and his supporters. This has to do with the camp ground management being stupid and petty.
Let me guess, you work there.
You don’t think it would have been polite to ask the office first if they would accept a delivery? You think if you worked at a sticks and bricks company they would let you receive your packages there? Not likely. The one thing I’m noticing about these YouTube RV’ers is that after a while, they think the world revolves around their channel.
Yes, I have received personal deliveries at my office many times. This should have been a non-event.
Do not disagree, however the way the park handled it was way out of line after you read how the rules are written.
I have worked in the RV industry for 20 years. I have been an rv’er my whole life. I would first like to say the part about the cops was just ridiculous. Kids were involved and it should have been handled differently. That being said he’ll have no wrath like an angry rv’er. I have seen a polling ugliness when an rv’er does not get their way. I read many comments and have seen many complaining about rules. They are there for a reason. Read paperwork you sign and if there is a potential gray area ask. I’m sorry this happened to the kiddos but let’s all take some personal responsibility.
Exactly, some personal responsibility. But we are all so entitled these days that we feel we can make any choice without consequences. I just hate what they showed their kids – rules do not apply to us.
Did you not read the same article I did, the restriction was for long term RVers. The couple tried to rectify the problem but the manager was not going to budge. The manager should have explained the misunderstanding and that it would not be tolerated in the future and let it go at that. But then he wouldn’t have been able to steal over $100 of their money he didn’t return for the 2 days they lost. Yea he’s a cook. I’ll never stay there, that’s for sure.
Agree but the police were called after the park manager reported being assaulted by one of the people in the party. He reported being grabbed. He also reported loud cursing by the campers. I’m sure the cops weren’t called for the fun of it. There is more to this story.
So Patrick, you were there? You got the full story? You witnessed what took place? Tell us more.
So Patrick you were there? You are a witness right. You have all the facts correct?
There is more to this story, a pattern of poor behavior by the park management that goes back years. Read the reviews, they aren’t all related to this incident, not by a long shot. And funny how the alleged assault isn’t in the police report. You would think something like that would be of interest to the police.
Hmmm, I commented on this yesterday but my comment is gone. I guess I’m on Mr. Woodbury’s blacklist. Anyway I stated that all of this could have been avoided if the campers had the courtesy to notify the office a package was coming. But I guess courtesy is out the window these days. I wasn’t there so I don’t know who was right or wrong. But the campers made such a big deal about this. I think they showed their kids that rules do not apply to them. I bet if they apologized for breaking the rule instead of getting on their high horse and freaking out about the injustice of it all they could have worked it out. If this is the worst thing that has ever happened, they have lived a pretty blessed life.
calling to cops to evict someone because they received a package from Fedex? ok bootlicker.
There was nothing in the rules saying they could not receive packages. There was a restriction for long term campers but not short term. They tried to work it out with the manager but he wouldn’t budge. He also did not return their money for the two days they lost. So you just want these people who lost over $100 to just smile and forget about it. Don’t think so!
You do understand that they aren’t upset that the campground refused the package right? Totally the campgrounds right. Fed Ex called and they met off the campground premises and that is what they were evicted for. It’s insane.
So Amy, you were there? You got the full story? You witnessed what took place? Tell us more.
You keep asking that same thing Patrick (or is it actually Tom?). You have dug into defending the campgrounds assertions. Were YOU there? The police report has no mention of arm grabbing or spitting or cursing beyond a single word. Did the campground reps forget to mention all that to the police and just remember later for the rebuttal on their site?
You are exactly correct. Well stated. Two thumbs up.
My personal prejudice is never stay in a park with “Resort” in its name
this will be added to my list of “never go to.”
Our short lived time at this “Resort” as work campers was an experience we will never forget and can’t believe the same horrible managers Tom & Kay are still on property. When all three of your work campers quit and leave at the same time, your park is empty while others are full and with the negative comments continue to flow in you’d think the owner would figure out who should be removed!! Tom patrols the park on his golf cart with a gun strapped to his side (legal in Colorado) and Kay watches over with binoculars!
Although I feel for Jason, Abby their young boys. Personally I feel it was for the best as Tom (who still thinks he is in the Marines) is a loose cannon ready to blow at any time. One day those Sheriff’s will be called to remove Tom and Kay (with binoculars in hand).
And the sheriff office is supporting him. Which I guess supports his rights on his property. We just don’t have to stay there.On our no visit list. Thanks for the info
Being a retired State Trooper, camp host with a gun displayed is horrible for any guest to see, fire the a– whole.
As the owner of a RV Park here in Ouray Colorado, I am sorry to have heard this happened and escalated this stage.
In these current COVID times, us as RV Park Owners have to understand the needs of our guests and that many of them are working from home. They need deliveries on a daily basis. In fact we encourage our customers to receive deliveries during this Pandemic, as travel to the big box stores can be difficult (especially with Children in tow).
Please dont take a personal bad experience from one RV Park in this location to apply to all.
Jason Perkins
ourayrvpark.com
So you have all the facts about what took place? You were a witness?
So you have all the facts? Seems like you are blindly accepting one side. Something you are belittling others on. Hypocrite much?
Were YOU a witness? Your dozens of comments here, all completely defending Tom, smack wholly of you being very closely involved with the campground – one of the owners, a close friend, perhaps Tom himself? Or are they paying you to troll here?
I wish I had seen the reviews before picking this campground to stay at two weeks ago. I was also kicked out of the park by Tom. He called the sheriffs and three vehicles showed up. I advised the Sheriff that I wanted a complete refund. They were able to make this happen. This campground is run like a military establishment. If your wondering why I was kicked out, here it is!!! I was moving to a new spot directly in front of my site. Drill Sargent Tom told me to drive completely around the park instead of pulling straight forward into the new spot. When I questioned him why I had to drive around the park he said if you don’t like it leave. I pulled to the front and waited for the office lady to Come to the window at the office but never did. In the mean time the Sheriff’s showed up and you know that part. Be advised Drill Sargent Tom carries a concealed gun on him.
These policeman must be on Tom’s payroll. They seem to be very overzealous.
As a Neighbor to that campground I will NEVER again recommend San Juan RV Park. What a shame to be treated so awfully for such a MINOR thing. Sorry to those folks, not all Coloradoans are that unreasonable.
So were you there? You heard the cursing? How about the alleged assault of the park manager, the grabbing of his arm, did you see that too? It looks like you have all the facts.
They should seek legal advice. One cannot retard the passage of mail, even if you own the property…..“Obstruction of mails generally. Whoever knowingly and willfully obstructs or retards the passage of the mail, or any carrier or conveyance carrying the mail, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.” 18 US Code 1701(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat)
This is not “mail” by definition. It is a private carrier, not covered by US postal codes. Goofy as this seems, I don’t think there is anything to be done about this.
I don’t think this applies in this case. In addition to the other commenter (correctly) saying that it’s a private delivery company and not the mail, you’re not entitled to receive mail at any private address just because you’re presently there. The RV park owners prohibiting campers from receiving packages on their own property is not actually retarding the passage of mail (even if it was USPS), they’re just rejecting the delivery.
I would sue the hell out of them
Because you blindly follow one side of the story… read the above rebuttal by the campground lmao
YES, becasue they did not follow their own rules whick applied to long-term campers only!! Reading is fundamental Moose and Patrick.
I am awaiting the RV park doing just that. They should sue all who those who have trashed their business, having never stayed there.
They will lose for sure becasue the truth is factual in this case.
I RV’d full time for several months and most parks did not allow you to have packages delivered. There was one in virginia where the UPS driver pulled right up to our site and gave me the package, but that was the exception. I would always ask first, but most managers would tell me explicitly getting mail was not allowed. After a while I didnt even ask anymore and if I needed something delivered I’d just have it sent “general delivery” to the post office in the town i was staying at. I can’t ever remember staying somewhere further than a few miles from a post office, so it really wasn’t that inconvenient. I figured that’s how most full timers got there mail since parks that will accept other people’s mail seemed to be so few.
I’ve never had an issue with parks not accepting packages, a few have said you can’t get letters but packages are ok. I even had a mailbox at one park.
Lol@ the campground peeps making sock puppet accounts to defend themselves.
Agree. There is more to this story. When a park has rules, you either obey them all or you don’t and don’t be surprised if you are kicked out. I appreciate parks that enforce their rules. You don’t get to pick and choose which rules you wish to obey.
As full-timers, we started using the Amazon boxes for deliveries. It was much easier for everything, except medications. Of course, that only works when you order from Amazon. Our online, mail only pharmacy, sends via USPS. A problem, if you need a new or old medication quickly. They have sent, via Fed Ex or UPS, to the USPS, which will not accept packages from Fed Ex or UPS. We have never been able to get them to understand this….
FYI, Tom and Kay Vale are not the owners, they are not Coloradans, they are from Oklahoma. Bill Barber (along with a few investors) is (are) the owner, he also owns a parking lot near the Denver, CO airport.
I just hope these reviews are far reaching other RV’s. Tom Vail is a bomb ready to go off, the man is known not only to carry a concealed weapon he is known to have an arsenal of weapons. The Sheriff needs to investigate him!! Is Colorado a ‘red flag’ State?
If he has a concealed carry permit, he is legally allowed to carry a concealed firearm. i don’t see what this has to do with the topic at hand. It sounds as if you want to pillory Tom Vail merely because he owns an “arsenal of weapons.” How do you even know this, and what does it have to do with the discussion? Sounds as if you are merely assuming that they have no business being employed because they came from another state. Wow! Talk about tolerance!
Sounds like they have an “IN” at the Sheriffs office. Who are they related to there. Billy Bob bubba a cousin? Pretty nice to have the Sheriffs office as your personal security detail, on call 24/7. How much does it cost the tax payers every time someone gets evicted? I wonder if the city counsel knows about this personal service the town is paying for? Things that make you go Hummmmmm!!!
It looks like a really crappy campground anyway, like a parking lot in an open field, no shade…They are lucky anyone wants to stay there
Reply To all posts/comments on YouTube, Facebook, GMB, including any other Social Platforms regarding the incident at Montrose San-Juan RV Park on 7/29/2020.
As the full Reply is too long for this Post you can find a copy of the reply at our Website.
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You mean the intellectually dishonest wall of garbage on your website.
Thank you for posting your side of the story. I found it very helpful.
Hmm, no mention that the part of their rules about this are in a section of the rules labeled “Long Term Campers, Lodge & Cabin Occupants”. And technically, they did not violate the rule, since they did not take delivery in the RV park.
The rule was violated when the camper used the RV park office address for the delivery. That’s when the violation took place. From what I can discern, FedEx attempted to deliver. It was rejected. Management told the camper. The camper then arranged to take delivery outside the park. Which he did. What happened next in the sequence of events? Explain that to me please.
How was the rule violated, when it applied only to long-term renters, as was stated plainly in the original post?
Neil, They know they were wrong and won’t answer your question. I would sue the crap out of them.
Also, the rules were technically not broken since the rules applied only to long-term campers, further advancing the fact that Mr. Epperson did not break the rule in the first place. From having read both sides of the story, I had to conclude that the park owner handled the situation poorly, and I wondered how the “rule” was broken when the package was delivered off the park property. Poor public relations on the part of the park owner; he should hire someone who has the ability to smooth over complaints, instead of inflaming them. Bad for business.
Being a small business owner myself, owning rental property where we have established rules and a lease our tenants abide by, I would strongly suggest consulting with legal counsel about your rules and the consequences that are apparently meted out at the whim of your manager. For one, your excuse for not receiving packages and mail is bogus. Two, your liability risk here is scary.
I would say you should do a better job of how your rules are printed.
If you do not want deliveries sent to your place then state that. However if I read this rule as written I too would believe since they were not long term that it was ok. Or that the deliveries have to stop at the gate etc.
Sounds to me that you do not want to be the handlers of folks mail and I can understand that.
Hopefully you take time to review your rules and consult with legal advice in proper handling of them.
Thanks
You will never get my money! I always look at reviews before booking anything and your review level is the lowest of all. I hope that you folks go under as well.
Go down the road to Gunnison to Lakeside RV Park next to Blue Mesa Reservoir. We workcamped there one summer. Pat and Stan are the nicest people in the world and I guarantee you if you wanted to ship an entire Amazon warehouse to their campground they wouldn’t have a problem with it. They are real people. Like most of the people in Gunnison-Montrose area. We loved it there.
Dennis, we are booked into that park in September. Thanks for confirming what I thought after I made my reservation on the phone. Nicest lady I talked to and the park looks like it will be great.
It would be great if you could leave reviews on this park in Campendium and Campground Reviews. I used these sites and know many of my RV friends do so also.
Every pancake has two sides. Did any of you read the response provided by the park? I bet not.
I did and you can tell they are full of hot air. Other people have had the same issues with the park. Read the reviews for the place the owners are insane.
Well this is quite interesting. So there are reviews setting out how horrible this park is? How terrible the managers are? You have seen and read them? Yet these campers, who apparently travel/camp for their YouTube channel didn’t check out this park before staying there? Or perhaps they did and they camped there? If the place is so terrible, and of course all reviews, as we know, are 100% accurate and tell the whole story, why would you stay here? How is it they are still open? And of course the park called the cops to come … just for the fun of it. Here’s a suggestion, try getting all the facts and information before jumping to conclusions. We have seen how that works out. Check out the Tawana Brawley story for a history lesson.
It really sickens me to see the power of YouTube vloggers and people who thrive on negativity. Judge them right at the outset. Don’t bother getting the other side of the story. Let’s tear the business apart. Sickening.
Hi, Patrick. We didn’t hear about the park’s side of the story until Wed. We included a link in our article as soon as we heard the other side, but that was after most people had read what we first posted. We’re doing a follow-up. 🙂 —Diane at RVtravel.com
I would appreciate it if you would. Whatever the truth is. These reviews and YouTuber videos trashing businesses with only part of the story has to stop. One of these days, one of these businesses is going to get in to see a lawyer..Tell the whole story. Tell the truth. The park reported cursing and even an assault. Do they have videos of this encounter? Did other campers witness the exchange? Send me out there, I’ll be happy to try to piece together what took place.
Patrick, we don’t totally trust reviews either, and we saw the “under new management” on their website, and that the name had changed, so we gave them the benefit of the doubt. Please read the other issues people have had with this place. Evicted for riding their bike in the wrong place, for showing up after 5:30, for sharing the gate code with their brother, for setting a grill out. We are very positive people and have never had any sort of issue like this. And we were evicted before any confrontation via email. The campground’s statement is absurd. There is no video of the encounter because we didn’t think there would be anything to worry about. We thought maybe it was a misunderstanding. We offered the officers drinks and shade. They left our sites early because it was peaceful, as evidenced in our video. We’re good people who don’t want this to happen to someone else.
Hi, Patrick. As noted at the top of today’s newsletter, we will have an update to this story next Sunday. —Diane at RVtravel.com
I want to thank Chuck for this and the community for the support.
To be clear: we are fine with the rule. It’s one we’ve often seen in our 4-years full-time. I made an assumption (based on the many permanently parked rigs) that I shouldn’t have. It was late, my computer was broken, and the website rules didn’t mention packages. I absolutely should have asked.
When the driver called me to let me know I could get it outside the gate, I actually thought it was the campground’s idea, and was grateful, until I received the eviction email. This isn’t about the rule, it’s about the absurd over-reaction. They were mad I got away with it.
Their statement is ludicrous. Nobody badgered the police. We offered them water and shade under our awning. They left our sites early because things were civil. We were hardly in the place for there to be complaints about our kids. If you have doubts about our story, please read many of the past reviews of this place.
Safe travels.
I always thought that Hotels, Restaurants, and RV Parks understood the word HOSPITALITY. Guess this place doesn’t treat guests that way. I won’t pay money to have a stay at a concentration camp.
There are other campgrounds in the state that allow deliveries and there are no problems.
This campground seems to be run by a bunch of over the top bullies.
The full narrative text of the Montrose County Sheriff’s Incident Report. We have redacted our friend’s name for his privacy, and one swear word in case it gets flagged by YouTube:
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On 07/29/2020, at approximately 1607 hours, WestCo Dispatch Center informed me of a disturbance, at 22045 Highway 550, in the County of Montrose, Colorado. Dispatch advised, an irate male party was being verbally aggressive at that location.
Deputies responded to that address, where we contacted Tommy Vail (DOB: 09/06/1951). Tommy stated, he is the owner of the RV Resort at this address, and he had a party violate the resort’s policy on receiving mail at the resort. Tommy stated, Jason Epperson (DOB: 11/06/1980) attempted to have mail sent to him at the resort, which is expressly forbidden in the reservation agreement Jason signed prior to his arrival at the resort. Tommy said the office refused the package, but Jason received it outside the gates anyway despite the policy violation.
Tommy stated, when he informed Jason of the violation, another party who is travelling with Jason, later identified as XXXXXX XXXXXXXX (DOB: XX/XX/XXXX) became irate and began yelling at Tommy. Tommy stated Robert used swear words, and there were small children around during the confrontation, which Tommy stated he will not tolerate at his resort. Tommy stated he wanted both XXXXXX and Jason’s parties to leave the resort due to the policy violation and subsequent disturbance that was created.
I then contacted Jason, who told a very similar story to what Tommy had stated. Jason told me, he frequently stays in RV Parks, and in the past there has never been an issue with receiving mail at one. Jason stated he understands he should have read the park policies more thoroughly, but said the section which prohibits mail being sent to guests is in the section titled “Long-term visitors” and Jason was only planning to stay for a few days, so he did not read that part.
When the delivery driver called him, Jason went out to get his package and did not think anything more of it. Jason stated he expected the park to be nicer about the violation and give them a warning or have a discussion about it, rather than just sending an e-mail and then asking them to leave. Jason said XXXXXX took offense to the way the complaint was handled, and when he vocalized this to resort employees, he used one swear word. Jason said the response from the park was disproportionate to the offense, and he felt the whole situation was ridiculous. Jason asked what would happen if he refused to leave, and told me the RV he stays in is his “domicile” so he cannot be made to leave unless he is legally evicted. I advised Jason, as he was a guest of the resort and had simply made a reservation, he could not be considered a tenant or resident at the address.
As the owner, Tommy, was stating he wanted Jason and his traveling companions off the property, if he refused Jason could be cited for trespassing. Jason stated he disagreed with this, but stated they would leave because he did not want further problems.
Deputies spoke with XXXXXX, who advised them, Jason ordered a Macbook, to be delivered to the RV resort. When it arrived, the office refused the delivery, stating it was against policy. At this point, the delivery driver contacted Jason by phone and arranged to meet with him outside the gates to deliver his package. The resort owner found out about the delivery and sent Jason an e-mail stating he was in violation of resort rules, and advising him he needed to leave.
XXXXXX heard about the email and became agitated, because he did not feel the response from Tommy was fair and felt Jason should be allowed to remain in the resort despite his violation. XXXXXX stated he confronted Tommy, and said “this is fXXXing ridiculous” and at that point Tommy contacted law enforcement. Deputies asked if any threats were made, and XXXXXX stated no. Deputies asked if it was physical, and XXXXXX again said no.
Deputies informed both parties they were being asked to leave, and they stated the process of packing their campers was likely to take several hours.
XXXXXX expressed to me that he did not want deputies present around his children, who he stated are home schooled and would be affected by law enforcement being near them. I advised XXXXXX, the park owner had given deputies permission to be on the premises and as long as we were performing duties related to our job, our presence could not be avoided. Deputies remained on scene until XXXXXX and Jason’s parties had left the resort. As they left, Tommy advised deputies XXXXXX was recording out his window and yelling profanities at resort staff. Deputies then cleared the call without further incident.
BOND AMOUNT: n/a
SUPPLEMENT(S): n/a
Victim Notification Form? n/a
Victim Rights Pamphlet? n/a
/s/ Deputy S. Belcher Post# B3088-2486
CASE STATUS: Cleared non-criminal
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That is what they updated us with.
I think that if this happened to us we would first be shocked then pissed. We definitely would have packed up as soon as we got the email and left and we definitely would demand our money back and if they refused WE would call the police. We never read the rules and usually what ever my husbands brings in the motor home from the office goes in the trash when we get parked. Sometimes we have to dig it out to get the WiFi code😉! We travel with three 50 lbs dogs and the only thing we look for are the fur kid rules. We stayed in a park that had a 2 pet limit and our neighbor saw that we had three and said something to us about it.. and we both at the exact time went SHHHHHHHHHHH! And she laughed. We are going to a class A resort next week that has a 2 pet limit and my husband used another email to ask if we could stay if we had 3 dogs and they answered about a week later and said “ we will allow another dog” and you bet we are keeping that email.
READ THE WHOLE CONTRACT AND KNOW WHAT YOU’RE SIGNING!!! IT’S NOR YOUR PARK!! IF YOU WANT DIFFERANT RULES OPEN YOUR OWN PARK OR STAY SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!
He wasn’t a long term camper! You need to comprehend what happened.
I got a ‘lifetime ban’ from the main RV park in a good sized, midwestern city for commenting about their very noticeable placement of a ‘MAGA’ hat in their office. After that, I wasn’t going to stay there again, but it just showed that owners can be petty, vindictive little people.
What about food delivery? I do Uber Eats and many times have driven right up to the rig and dropped off food. I have one overzealous guard stop me at the gate and I left the food right there. Other than that most places don’t seem to have this problem.
Boycott this park and identify other parks that are totally ignorant to “real life” issues. What a sad story and to have the police escort them out of the park in front of other campers. I would packed up and left in protest.
The link to the park works (sort of). I think they may have pulled their page (can’t say I blame them). This is an AWFUL and STUPID rule anyway! What’s the harm I ask?