RVer takes pride in cheating campground reservation system

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We found this on the Facebook group Florida RV Camping. It made us mad. Why do some people think they do not need to play by the rules?

Here’s the post from a member of the group:

“While at an RVers luncheon today, I asked the man seated next to me where he was going next. He said he and his wife would be at Johnathan Dickinson State Park for 6 weeks. I asked if they would be hosting. Nope.

“Then I asked how he finagled 6 weeks. “Creative registration ” was his answer. He reserves two weeks in his name, 2 weeks in his wife’s name, and I guess 2 weeks in the dog’s name. When I said that was just wrong, he justified it by saying they had paid for it, so they deserved it.

“Florida has the 2-week max rule, so it appears Reserve America isn’t enforcing it. And those of us who live here suffer the consequences.”

This makes those of us at RVtravel.com angry! Why do some people believe they are entitled to make their own rules, which in this case deny two or more other campers a campsite that should be available? Hopefully the rangers catch on in this case, but you wonder if they would legally have the power to do anything.

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D Haley
2 months ago

Part II: Federal parks are a different creature as we all own part of the park with federal tax dollars. So the system should be of equitable usage. A two week period use at a park and if you booked another park say in another State park as you continue your travels that is permissible use of federal park campsites never having more than two weeks at anyone park. Then strictly all rules and laws with stiff monetary fines and rangers given the power to enforce. In the meantime confront legislators, governors, Congress persons and senators as well as media and for

D Haley
2 months ago

Part I: It seems this RA company at best is an issue. Why have not the RV organizations band and attacked the politicians that have allow your state lands and federal lands to operate so poorly. It seems as well as reading that RV rental companies are an issue the the problem as what about companies like say camper world and others. Clean out the mess, and stop contracting. Feds run it with fed employees as the same with states. RV organizations sit together and help put rules and regulations together. State residents get a percentage of sites and others sites open up to non-residents on state control parks.

Rodger
2 months ago

I frequently spend the summer operating a Forest Service campsite in British Columbia. I do have people come in and book for 2 weeks, set up, and only show up on weekends. It is frustrating, but legal. We do have a policy that they have to occupy the site, but We cannot remove their stuff, not to mention a trailer. I did remove a tent once and was accused of damaging their possessions. No way would I hook up to a trailer.

Engineer
2 months ago

It’s the same “me” generation that has ruined Wal Mart overnight parking; state parks and the newest is the Harvest Host program….soon to be ruined by these people who think they are “entitled”

Rosalie Magistro
2 months ago

As a campground host in one of the most popular state park Arizona, I have seen this plenty of times, mainly Canadian guests.
We are eyes and ears for the park so we report it to they rangers and they take care of the problem.
It’s not fair or correct to,follow the rules and let others have a chance to stay in the parks.

Glen Cowgill
2 months ago

I live in Florida and am a Disabled Vet yet I can never get a reservation in any of the Florida state parks if I want to get away. This current reservation system does not work for the residents of Florida.

Charles iacono
8 months ago

This could be corrected by registering each space to the license of the RV, not by name. Hopefully these crooks will meet their fate somewhere down the line.

Rosalie Magistro
2 months ago
Reply to  Charles iacono

Half the time you can’t get a phone number on their regi.

Bob Harrelson
8 months ago

At one of the National Parks that i camphost at they have taken measures to stop People from spending the entire season in the campground. They have a first come first served system so no reservations but 14 day limit. At which point you have to leave the park for 14 days then may only return for an addition 14 days in a calendar year. It takes a little effort to enforce. Especially when it was first introduced. But after a few people were escorted from the park word got around( there must be a Facebook page for those who try to beat the system) and it works pretty well now. I know some people who come for a three or four day mini vacation have taken in total more than the allotted yearly time. But those who do three or four days never were the problem. It was those who wanted to do three or four months.

Dottie
8 months ago

To the person that talked about “RVer takes pride in cheating campground reservation system”. The people are paying the campground so that is not cheating. They are cheating the RVers that can not use the space because they are hogging the space.

BOb Harrelson
8 months ago
Reply to  Dottie

If the same person is reserving under multiple name how is that not cheating

Tas
8 months ago

I live in Palm Beach and Jonathan Dickenson is our short getaway goto spot. Only December thru April, exactly when we want to do a two or three night camping trip, it is impossible to get a site. It saddens me that greediness and breaking the rules for selfish gain is so commonplace. I wish they would use the license plate of the RV to enforce the law.

97TJ
9 months ago

Reserve America IP address is 66.193.24.198 which is Dallas Texas. So unless Texas has been annexed by Canada…….

97TJ
9 months ago

We regularly book back to back reservations when we want to stay longer than two weeks at some state, federal or provincial parks. Simple to do, no gaming the system required.

Be informed, read the terms & conditions, book online and make it work for your situation.

Simply put, failing to plan is planning to fail!

Tommy Reeves
9 months ago

I’m not yet an RVer but have been anxious about making that purchase. We have a travel trailer that suits our lifestyle all picked out.

After reading all of the comments about the difficulty of getting reservations at some of the preferred locations, the comments are about to convince me that maybe I don’t really want to make that purchase. The difficulties and abuse of the system written about here remind me of when we were timeshare owners; one could never get a reservation simply because of overselling the properties. (Luckily we were able to legally get out from under that timeshare). We couldn’t get a reservation BUT we could go to their website and find a rental unit available.

Tommy Molnar
9 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Depending on which end of the country you’re in, Tommy, this problem see-saws. It also has to do with the time of the year as well. Don’t be discouraged, and hopefully you could park your RV at your house. That makes a difference in how often you would use it.

James Wills
8 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

If your plans are to stay in high traffic areas than you have to plan your trips months in advance, but if you want to boondock or stay at low traffic areas you usually have plenty of options in the west but the further east you go you will have less options for spontaneous planned trips. If you want to stay somewhere long term plan months if not a year in advance and reserve and make sure you get it in writing.

Paul Filardi
8 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Might I Suggest
that you rent one for a month and try it out, its a small expense if it turns out that you are not enjoying yourself

Greg
7 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Love to know how you got out of the timeshare.

Darrel
10 months ago

Camp Rangers should spot the abuse and force them out.

Brian S. Holmes
10 months ago
Reply to  Darrel

This is funny, the ones at our state park are more worried about getting their hair knot tight on top of their head and what time they get off than enforcing any rules. The place has gone downhill ever since they were hired on some kind of quota.

Bruce silvers
10 months ago

At the Dec campgrounds in New York the tent campers reserve the large rv spots so they will have plenty of room but they take up the only large spots that are available. If you don’t have a 35 foot rv than you should not be able to reserve one of those spots. It’s not only cheating it’s just plain selfish!

Tommy Molnar
9 months ago
Reply to  Bruce silvers

We see that happen at our fave local state park. Some guy with a Prius and a tent takes up the biggest, longest pull through in the park. We’re not talking about the busy season when you take what you can find. This is when the park isn’t even half full and there are lots of spaces that would be quality for someone tenting. Nothing against tenting – we started that way DECADES ago. But . . .

Steve
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruce silvers

Because some of prefer to camp the way it was meant, why are we less deserving than you, glamper?

Travis
2 months ago
Reply to  Steve

Its called being considerate to your fellow human campers. Just because you choose to tent camp and I choose to use a camper does not give you the right to take the only spot I might fit in.

MeXicalliannie
10 months ago

Reserve America is based in Dallas Texas! That is their headquarters. Yes there are offices in Canada and various others areas.

Billy Bob Thorton
10 months ago
Reply to  MeXicalliannie

Dude, the data and reservation call center is located in Toronto, Canada. Nice try, fake news alert

Paul E
10 months ago

This is total BS. We live in Florida full time and pay state taxes that supports our State Parks. Maybe the state should make sure to do a better job enforcing their regulations. This is one of the reasons why Florida residence can’t get into our own parks.

gene snyder
10 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

to stop this practice why don’t they use the license plate 2 weeks only and cant come back for 2 weeks

Tom
10 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

I totally agree with you. I do not belong to Reserve America. When I first got my RV I tried to reserve a spot at Folsom Lake (State Park) because a family member reserved a picnic site for a reunion. The website said all full, no sites available. So we attended the reunion and sure enough the sign at the Ranger office hung outside said all full. So I drove around the campground and counted 11 empty sites, this was after 5pm. The ranger station was closed so sites could not be given out. I did the exact same thing at the Tomales Bay State Park. Same situation. Empty spots, ranger station closed early. It is surely going to get uglier as more seniors become vagabonds.

littleleftie
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

Luckily for you, if you don’t mind planning a bit in advance, you, as a state resident, can book online earlier than anyone else. That should help—-but sadly, not for those spontaneous trips.

Tom R
10 months ago

I’ve found some government campgrounds, in California, have a “secret” or “walk in” policy which is a certain number of sites not reservable, but only available first come first served basis. One gets there during the weekdays and can stay over the weekend and up to 14 days. One county campground on the beach had that and they allowed me to move from my reserved site to one of those sites which were much better than some of the reservable ones. I asked about this policy at another very popular So Cal State beach campground and the gatekeeper grudgingly admitted to the existence of these sites. This was during the lower demand non summer or non holiday periods, who knows what happens during the summer when the campgrounds get reserved in minutes after the reservation period opens.

Unfortunately, all these problems are due to TOO MANY PEOPLE. Campgrounds at our National parks were set up during the 30’s, and are overwhelmed, as are the parks, with the current population.

Beft Eykelbosh
10 months ago

Most campgrounds now have one or more hosts. They always check me when we use senior citizen discounts. Why can’t check items like this? Over two weeks, leave!
This should be a simple solution to bots stealing reservations -the camper must have the same name as the reservation.

Richard
10 months ago

IF they move to a new slot in the park I think that would be ok. If not, I hope one of the rangers sees thru the charade and boots them out.