RVer takes pride in cheating campground reservation system

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We found this on the Facebook group Florida RV Camping. It made us mad. Why do some people think they do not need to play by the rules?

Here’s the post from a member of the group:

“While at an RVers luncheon today, I asked the man seated next to me where he was going next. He said he and his wife would be at Johnathan Dickinson State Park for 6 weeks. I asked if they would be hosting. Nope.

“Then I asked how he finagled 6 weeks. “Creative registration ” was his answer. He reserves two weeks in his name, 2 weeks in his wife’s name, and I guess 2 weeks in the dog’s name. When I said that was just wrong, he justified it by saying they had paid for it, so they deserved it.

“Florida has the 2-week max rule, so it appears Reserve America isn’t enforcing it. And those of us who live here suffer the consequences.”

This makes those of us at RVtravel.com angry! Why do some people believe they are entitled to make their own rules, which in this case deny two or more other campers a campsite that should be available? Hopefully the rangers catch on in this case, but you wonder if they would legally have the power to do anything.

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Charles iacono
5 months ago

This could be corrected by registering each space to the license of the RV, not by name. Hopefully these crooks will meet their fate somewhere down the line.

Bob Harrelson
5 months ago

At one of the National Parks that i camphost at they have taken measures to stop People from spending the entire season in the campground. They have a first come first served system so no reservations but 14 day limit. At which point you have to leave the park for 14 days then may only return for an addition 14 days in a calendar year. It takes a little effort to enforce. Especially when it was first introduced. But after a few people were escorted from the park word got around( there must be a Facebook page for those who try to beat the system) and it works pretty well now. I know some people who come for a three or four day mini vacation have taken in total more than the allotted yearly time. But those who do three or four days never were the problem. It was those who wanted to do three or four months.

Dottie
6 months ago

To the person that talked about “RVer takes pride in cheating campground reservation system”. The people are paying the campground so that is not cheating. They are cheating the RVers that can not use the space because they are hogging the space.

BOb Harrelson
5 months ago
Reply to  Dottie

If the same person is reserving under multiple name how is that not cheating

Tas
6 months ago

I live in Palm Beach and Jonathan Dickenson is our short getaway goto spot. Only December thru April, exactly when we want to do a two or three night camping trip, it is impossible to get a site. It saddens me that greediness and breaking the rules for selfish gain is so commonplace. I wish they would use the license plate of the RV to enforce the law.

97TJ
7 months ago

Reserve America IP address is 66.193.24.198 which is Dallas Texas. So unless Texas has been annexed by Canada…….

97TJ
7 months ago

We regularly book back to back reservations when we want to stay longer than two weeks at some state, federal or provincial parks. Simple to do, no gaming the system required.

Be informed, read the terms & conditions, book online and make it work for your situation.

Simply put, failing to plan is planning to fail!

Tommy Reeves
7 months ago

I’m not yet an RVer but have been anxious about making that purchase. We have a travel trailer that suits our lifestyle all picked out.

After reading all of the comments about the difficulty of getting reservations at some of the preferred locations, the comments are about to convince me that maybe I don’t really want to make that purchase. The difficulties and abuse of the system written about here remind me of when we were timeshare owners; one could never get a reservation simply because of overselling the properties. (Luckily we were able to legally get out from under that timeshare). We couldn’t get a reservation BUT we could go to their website and find a rental unit available.

Tommy Molnar
7 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Depending on which end of the country you’re in, Tommy, this problem see-saws. It also has to do with the time of the year as well. Don’t be discouraged, and hopefully you could park your RV at your house. That makes a difference in how often you would use it.

James Wills
6 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

If your plans are to stay in high traffic areas than you have to plan your trips months in advance, but if you want to boondock or stay at low traffic areas you usually have plenty of options in the west but the further east you go you will have less options for spontaneous planned trips. If you want to stay somewhere long term plan months if not a year in advance and reserve and make sure you get it in writing.

Paul Filardi
6 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Might I Suggest
that you rent one for a month and try it out, its a small expense if it turns out that you are not enjoying yourself

Greg
5 months ago
Reply to  Tommy Reeves

Love to know how you got out of the timeshare.

Darrel
7 months ago

Camp Rangers should spot the abuse and force them out.

Brian S. Holmes
7 months ago
Reply to  Darrel

This is funny, the ones at our state park are more worried about getting their hair knot tight on top of their head and what time they get off than enforcing any rules. The place has gone downhill ever since they were hired on some kind of quota.

Bruce silvers
7 months ago

At the Dec campgrounds in New York the tent campers reserve the large rv spots so they will have plenty of room but they take up the only large spots that are available. If you don’t have a 35 foot rv than you should not be able to reserve one of those spots. It’s not only cheating it’s just plain selfish!

Tommy Molnar
7 months ago
Reply to  Bruce silvers

We see that happen at our fave local state park. Some guy with a Prius and a tent takes up the biggest, longest pull through in the park. We’re not talking about the busy season when you take what you can find. This is when the park isn’t even half full and there are lots of spaces that would be quality for someone tenting. Nothing against tenting – we started that way DECADES ago. But . . .

Steve
6 months ago
Reply to  Bruce silvers

Because some of prefer to camp the way it was meant, why are we less deserving than you, glamper?

MeXicalliannie
7 months ago

Reserve America is based in Dallas Texas! That is their headquarters. Yes there are offices in Canada and various others areas.

Billy Bob Thorton
7 months ago
Reply to  MeXicalliannie

Dude, the data and reservation call center is located in Toronto, Canada. Nice try, fake news alert

Paul E
7 months ago

This is total BS. We live in Florida full time and pay state taxes that supports our State Parks. Maybe the state should make sure to do a better job enforcing their regulations. This is one of the reasons why Florida residence can’t get into our own parks.

gene snyder
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

to stop this practice why don’t they use the license plate 2 weeks only and cant come back for 2 weeks

Tom
7 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

I totally agree with you. I do not belong to Reserve America. When I first got my RV I tried to reserve a spot at Folsom Lake (State Park) because a family member reserved a picnic site for a reunion. The website said all full, no sites available. So we attended the reunion and sure enough the sign at the Ranger office hung outside said all full. So I drove around the campground and counted 11 empty sites, this was after 5pm. The ranger station was closed so sites could not be given out. I did the exact same thing at the Tomales Bay State Park. Same situation. Empty spots, ranger station closed early. It is surely going to get uglier as more seniors become vagabonds.

littleleftie
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul E

Luckily for you, if you don’t mind planning a bit in advance, you, as a state resident, can book online earlier than anyone else. That should help—-but sadly, not for those spontaneous trips.

Tom R
7 months ago

I’ve found some government campgrounds, in California, have a “secret” or “walk in” policy which is a certain number of sites not reservable, but only available first come first served basis. One gets there during the weekdays and can stay over the weekend and up to 14 days. One county campground on the beach had that and they allowed me to move from my reserved site to one of those sites which were much better than some of the reservable ones. I asked about this policy at another very popular So Cal State beach campground and the gatekeeper grudgingly admitted to the existence of these sites. This was during the lower demand non summer or non holiday periods, who knows what happens during the summer when the campgrounds get reserved in minutes after the reservation period opens.

Unfortunately, all these problems are due to TOO MANY PEOPLE. Campgrounds at our National parks were set up during the 30’s, and are overwhelmed, as are the parks, with the current population.

Beft Eykelbosh
7 months ago

Most campgrounds now have one or more hosts. They always check me when we use senior citizen discounts. Why can’t check items like this? Over two weeks, leave!
This should be a simple solution to bots stealing reservations -the camper must have the same name as the reservation.

Richard
7 months ago

IF they move to a new slot in the park I think that would be ok. If not, I hope one of the rangers sees thru the charade and boots them out.

Howard Malpass
7 months ago

people who abide by the rules are frowned on now! This is not correct! THAT is one reason people can not get a reservation, because of the people who cheat!

Cindy
7 months ago

I’d like to address the issue of “no show” campers. In Indiana the Reserve America system doesn’t seem to allow for people who cancel reservations. The spaces don’t show up for use and therefore sit empty while people show up at the park and want a site. They are told the campground is full when it isn’t. This is not fair. The site is already paid for, so even if/when they get in they are also paying AGAIN for the same site. If you cancel and someone else comes, they should get the site and you should get a refund. Seriously, sometimes site reservations have been made many months in advance and things happen. But worse is the empty sites sitting there while a “campground full” sign is out in front.

Billy Bob Thorton
7 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

Reserve America won’t allow their system to be live. They make a killing on those service fees. The worst part is that the physical site is located in Toronto, Canada. Try and get anything done in a socialist based country, gold luck withnthat

WEB
7 months ago

I would do a little research before spewing at the mouth (or fingertip).

cee
7 months ago

Reserve America headquarters is located in Dallas, TX

ANDREW STOY
7 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

Cindy, this is also a problem here in North Carolina and probably any state that uses RA. Our incompetent Governor appoints other incompetent political friends to run the Agencies. The head of State Parks here I suspect has never been in one and knows very little about the outdoors or how much more revenue they could generate if they forced RA to fix this empty no show problem During the peak Summer months, we always see many sites that we tried to reserve but were taken, sitting empty the entire 14 days that we are staying in a less desirable site . RA has not been good for campers or the Rangers in charge of these various campgrounds who admit their old manual telephone system was much better.

Nana Mary
7 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

This is so true! Plus a guy we know will rent a campsite at a popular full-hookup campground for a holiday weekend and if he can’t end up using the site, he puts the site on Craig’s list for rent! So he does not lose his one night reservation fee! This is totally wrong! Indiana DNR should stop this rerenting of a campsite. Totally Disgusting!

Joseph Weinstein
7 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

I agree. We camped at Grand Canyon National park and at least 20% of the sites were vacant when the lot stated full. Vendor said sites are paid for by No-shows but they can’t release them. If you don’t cancel and don’t show you should be charged double.

Will Katerberg
6 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

Happened several times to us. Frustrating.

James Wills
6 months ago
Reply to  Cindy

I was a campground host in the Black Hills for a few summers and the policy was if the camper is a no show on first day of reservation the second day they opened the site up to first come first use.

RVthereyet
7 months ago

It’s the same as the heater ads telling us to use electricity the somebody else has to pay for.

Bob
7 months ago
Reply to  RVthereyet

Then they complain the campground prices are so High!

ANDREW STOY
7 months ago

Darlene, we agree 100%. We are new RV’s who have been trying to get a couple of weeks in a Forida park or a park in the Southwest for two years. We have not been able to find a spot for a short stay even in October, November, or March or April. Not the entire season, just a week or two. We are told everything is booked the entire season and to a great extent by Canadians. Yes we have tried a year in advance and the story is the same. Your idea of parks reserving some of their sites for in state residends and U.S. residents is a great idea. Now before you Canadians start whining about making you feel unwelcome, let me say this. Of all the countries in the world that we have traveled to on business or pleasure, Canada has clearly made us feel unwelcome there. Doesn’t matter if it was driving in or flying in, your border control agents are downright rude and condescending. Also in your French part of the country shop keepers, hotels and restaurants did the same, although not to the same extent as border control. Americans should be able to stay in American parks during the Winter season. There must be a way to to give everyone an opportunity to escape the Winter even it is brief.

Denise
7 months ago
Reply to  ANDREW STOY

I cross into Canada via Washington state and have always found the Canadian border agents very friendly and welcoming, it’s the US agents that are rude and make me feel like a criminal when I return home. Maybe the attitude is coastal West vs East?

Ron P.
5 months ago
Reply to  Denise

We have crossed the Canada/US border from Detroit area, Niagra Falls, Kingston ON, and northern Mane. The customs/border agents on both sides have always been as pleasant as I would expect. They are doing their jobs asking questions and inspecting, enforcing the laws. I wouldn’t like to spend my working days dealing with the general public in that capacity.

Clemson Engineer
7 months ago

It is infuriating when you see this type of abuse and those in our society who could care less about anyone other than themselves. Abuse of the hospitality at Wal Marts is another “it’s only about me” lifestyle. Dumping black water in the parking lot storm water systems; leaving your trash are just examples of why WalMart will stop overnight parking in the very near future…..you people make me sick and I only wish I could you you pulling this type of crap….

ANDREW STOY
7 months ago

Reserve America has made RVing a nightmare, especially state parks. State appointed park executives with no outdoor experience, see outsourcing this responsibility as a way to cut costs. They do not care or even understand how their residents view the systems. Every Park Ranger we have discussed this with has agreed with us. They say when they conrolled this it was much more fair.