The hollow promise behind RV ‘Quality Assurance’ badges: Nothing but a ‘tax stamp’

Buy a manufactured RV, and chances are that somewhere in a prominent location near the main entrance you’ll see a badge that looks much like the one below—gold if it’s a motorhome, silver for travel trailers and fifth-wheels. Truck campers and folding campers, alas, are relegated to plain-vanilla white.

The badges, or seals, are your supposed assurance that the recreational vehicle you’ve just purchased meets certain quality and safety standards, but the truth is that they’re bought by the manufacturer even before a vehicle is built. No one has inspected your RV to determine that it complies with NFPA 1192, as the seal attests. Such seals are aspirational statements by RV builders, self-certifying about something that may or may not be true—and as a chorus of voices has attested, that can be a hollow assurance indeed.

The seals are not a legal requirement

Put another way, the seals are little more than private-sector tax stamps, saying as little about the product to which they’re affixed as government tax stamps say about a pack of cigarettes. They’re not a legal requirement. RV manufacturers who aren’t members of RVIA—admittedly a rare breed—don’t have them. But they are a revenue generator for the Recreational Vehicle Industry Association, and as such the income they generate dwarfs all other RVIA revenue sources: Of RVIA’s total 2023 revenues of $9.4 million, $5.3 million came from seal sales. Membership dues, the next highest revenue generator, brought in only $2.9 million, with the balance coming from events, sponsorships and other sources.

Here’s the problem with that: When RV production exploded in 2021, hitting more than 600,000 units, so did revenue from seal sales, hitting a record $13.4 million. And when RV sales tapered off, and then swooned, so did seal revenue, plummeting 60% over the next two years—even though spending remained largely unchanged. The bottom line is that RVIA’s total revenues last year, with seal sales still being the main income contributor, covered only 73% of the association’s $12.9 million in expenses.

Although that is a sizeable shortfall, RVIA President Craig Kirby opted not to highlight it in his recent annual message to members, stressing instead that he “can’t help but feel optimistic about the direction we are heading.” A financial report footnote, meanwhile, asserted that the association and its related parties “strategically planned for a material loss in 2023,” drawing on operating reserves accumulated in recent years to cover expenses. Those expenses, it’s worth noting, were reduced by only $171,285 year-over-year and were still $860,000 higher than they were two years ago.

Other financial storm clouds

Meanwhile, other financial storm clouds are forming. The “related parties” mentioned in the footnote include its promotional arm, Go RVing™, which hasn’t covered its expenses in several years—and the hole is getting deeper. Much of Go RVing’s revenues come from additional fees added by RVIA to its seal sales—a surcharge, if you will—that brought in $24.9 million in 2021, for example. Yet that same year Go RVing’s expenses outstripped revenues by $2.4 million, a gap that widened to $3.6 million in 2022 and to $9.3 million last year. All told, then, in just three years, Go RVing has run up a deficit of $15.3 million, with no public explanation of how that hole is being filled.

And as with RVIA, Go RVing isn’t eager to indulge in belt-tightening: Last year’s expenses of $26.9 million, while restrained in comparison with the $32.2 million expended the previous year, were just 1% lower than in 2021. Bottom line, Go RVing’s income covered only 65% of last year’s outgo, an even bigger shortfall than RVIA’s 73% deficit. How much longer can operating reserves make up the difference? RVIA isn’t saying, keeping those figures out of public view.

Is RV production going to bounce back in 2024?

Kirby’s gamble, one assumes, is that RV production is going to bounce back in 2024, and with it the sale of RVIA seals and Go RVing surcharges. He could be right, although the 11.8% increase RVIA is currently projecting—to 350,000 shipments in 2024, up from 313,174 reported for 2023—is far from enough to cover the gaps. Moreover, even some of the industry’s most seasoned participants have warned that the storm clouds may persist right through the end of the year, and the current economic outlook is wobbly, at best. And as last year’s record of repeatedly downgraded production forecasts suggests, RVIA has a tendency toward overly rosy expectations.

So what’s the answer? Only the usual: Raise taxes. Seals will cost more, the Go RVing surcharge will jump even more and RVIA membership dues will go up. RV buyers will pay a little more, but any question about the line charge on their invoice for an RVIA seal will be explained away as the cost of a good housekeeping assurance. And, of course, the lobbying on behalf of RV manufacturers will continue as always, funded by those gold and silver (and plain-vanilla white) stickers. That’s how the system works.

Andy Zipser is the author of Renting Dirt, the story of his family’s experiences owning and operating a Virginia RV park, and of Turning Dirt, a step-by-step guide for finding, buying and operating an RV park and campground. Both books are available through bookstores or at Amazon.com.

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71 Comments

Joseph Hayes
2 years ago

I use to own a RV manufacturing plant in Elkhart Indiana. I never once used the RVIA. They think they run the industry. You pay them enough money and they will put a sticker on any floorplan. The industry would be smart to get rid of them and start a new not so entrenched association. You see the revenue from that stupid sticker. Gotta sell them stickers!

Sharon
2 years ago

There is one park that we visit that requires that sticker or its Canadian equivalent. They will actually take a picture of it. When asked why, it appears that they once had a home made rv that had a fire while at the park. So this is their way of keeping home made rigs out of the park.

Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Sharon

Or new, very well built, manufacturers that do not want to be a member.

Bob M
2 years ago

The best thing is if you get hurt in your rig because of a quality issue. Then sue them. Or if you have quality issues with your RV file a complaint with your consumer protection agency. Stressing the lack of quality and the RVIA sticker indicating it meets quality standards.

Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Bob M

They’ll tell you to sue the manufacturer for not following their requirements. But then again, the RVIA does not enforce their standards.

Rolling Dog House
2 years ago

RVIA sounds like a group of politicians!! Some group or organization needs to take them to task. Again, most people have no clue who RVIA is or what they do. They can do as they want in broad daylight.

Tommy Molnar
2 years ago

Exactly right! Tax more. Give less.

Bill Byerly
2 years ago
Reply to  Tommy Molnar

Yep!

Cancelproof
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Byerly

Yep yep!

Cancelproof
2 years ago
Reply to  Tommy Molnar

Got that right.

Gregg Fore
2 years ago

You are simply using public facts out of context, ignoring many other facts to find fault
with RVIA – your comments are misleading and a disservice to those who have or are sitting on the Board of Directors and do, in fact, work to make the industry a better place for all participants. If you don’t like the industry or its products – please go find another way to pleasure yourself.

Andy
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

I’m unclear about which facts are “out of context,” Gregg, but it helps to know that you served for 19 years as an RVIA board member, including two as its chairman. Perhaps, then, you could fill in some of the blanks. . . .

Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

You’re out of your mind if you believe any of that. The disservice is clearly being perpetrated by the industry. It’s called the fox guarding the hen house.

Paul C
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

I’d really like to hear how you’ve made it better. Otherwise, it looks like the RVIA is not only worthless but a detriment. At least you’ve been compensated though.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

Hi, Gregg. I just read the About Us page on the RVIA website, which states: “With offices in the Washington, D.C. area, and Elkhart, IN, the RV Industry Association is the leading trade voice of the $140 billion dollar RV industry, representing over 500 manufacturers and component and aftermarket suppliers who together produce 98 percent of all RVs made in the United States, and approximately 60 percent of RVs produced worldwide.

“The association works with federal and state lawmakers and regulators to pursue a favorable business environment for its members, is the leading source of research, data, and analysis about the RV industry, and seeks to grow and expand the RV consumer market while cultivating a positive experience for current RVers through its Go RVing program.

“The association also maintains an inspection program that audits the compliance of RV manufacturers to plumbing, heating, fire and life safety, and electrical systems codes and provides an ongoing Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards education program for its members, as well as provides the only industry-backed training program for RV service technicians through the RV Technical Institute.”

The only statement regarding benefiting the consumers directly is: “…seeks to grow and expand the RV consumer market while cultivating a positive experience for current RVers through its Go RVing program.” But indirectly, the RVIA provides an FMVSA education program for its members and provides a training program for RV service technicians.

Since the seal is the “manufacturer’s self-certification”, putting the RVIA’s potentially unearned seal of approval on the frequently poor workmanship on so many RVs is a huge disservice to customers who, in the price of the RV, are paying for that just-as-frequently worthless label.

The RVIA “…is the leading trade voice of the $140 billion dollar RV industry, representing over 500 manufacturers and component and aftermarket suppliers….” As such, I would say the RVIA’s loyalties lie with the RV industry itself, rather than the consumers. (continued)

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

(continued) Another statement on the RVIA website: “The Government Affairs team advocates for the RV industry at the state, federal, and international level to create a favorable business environment, protect against onerous legislation and regulations, and make it easier for consumers to buy, drive, and own an RV.”

I’ve read headlines where the RVIA boasts that it has, once again, shot down proposed RV lemon laws. Yep, that’s supporting the consumers, all right.

Even your Go RVing mission, if you will, appears to be more about the industry than individual consumers: “GO RVING: Reaching millions of potential new RV consumers each year, Go RVing is charged with attracting new consumers to RVing and conducting consumer research and insights. Go RVing’s research and innovative campaigns ensure that the appeal of RVing is shared with a growing and diverse audience that is primed to be your future customer.” [emphasis added]

So, I think Andy Zipser’s article was quite accurate.

Have a good day. —Diane at RVtravel.com, but speaking for myself (just a 77-year-old proofreader, so what do I know?🤔)

BTW–Your parting shot was quite rude. Just sayin’.

Dave Easley
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

Way to go Diane! The sticker clearly states, “Manufacturer Certifies Compliance. . . “. No third party inspection is made. The buyer must rely on the “integrity” of the Manufacturer. If the Manufacturer produces poor quality and won’t stand behind it, that manufacturer should be blacklisted on consumer forums like this one. Very few Manufacturers will truly stand behind their RVs and support the local Dealer on warranty work. Consumers need to choose a reliable Manufacturer as well as a reliable Dealer (preferably family owned). I am not aware of anyplace consumers can find the information they need. If you do, please post it. Thank you.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave Easley

👍Thanks, Dave. Will do. Have a good afternoon/evening. 😀 –Diane

Roger Marble
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

“DOT” on all tires is also a self certification by all tire companies that the tire meets published standards. If /when tires fail and if the DOT investigates and finds the tires in question do not meet the published test standards the DOT can and has issued financial penalties on the tire company for their failure to meet the stated tests. I doubt that it could be successfully be argued that a failure to meet any of the “standards” that RVIA lists for plumbing or electrical or other features has no meaning as that would be an admission by RVIA that their “standards” are meaningless which would quickly put them out of business.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Roger Marble

Thanks for the explanation, Roger. Have a great day. 😀 –Diane

KellyR
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

…”please go find another way to pleasure yourself.” Uh? Huh? Duh? And you are a professional that is trying to bring me into the world of RVing through your organization? I’ve got to reread and rethink all of this.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  KellyR

Exactly. When I saw that, I was going to edit it out of there, but decided to leave it in so others could see it.🤔 Thanks for mentioning it, Kelly.👍 Have a good night.🤗 –Diane

KellyR
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

Well,, I guess he WAS professional enough to tell me what he wanted me to do without actually using the words. On the other hand, you really don’t want someone like that on your board of directors. Oh well.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  KellyR

OMGoodness. I just Googled Gregg Fore. Andy’s post must have caught him on a bad day. Here’s part of what his bio says when he was inducted into the RV/MH Hall of Fame: “INDUCTED 2018. BIO: Gregg’s leadership as president of Dicor led to many new innovative products for the RV OEM and aftermakerts.[sic] He has distinguished himself during his 42-year RV Industry career as a highly successful businessman, community leader, National Industry Association volunteer executive, and RV Industry promoter. His[sic] During Gregg’s term as RVIA Chairman he led the Association to be more inclusive of all interests in the industry resulting in much improved communication, cooperation and team effort leading to a much stronger RV Industry. Gregg has led with grace, humility and respect.” Hmmm. Go figure.🤔 Take care, Kelly.🤗 –Diane

KellyR
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

Wow. Still no reason for his last sentence.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  KellyR

His (very telling) last sentence sure doesn’t match that glowing review, eh?🤔 (If you’re reading this, Hi, Gregg.) –Diane

ccg
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

Gross! How rude!! Grow up!

Scott
2 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Fore

it sounds as though the governing members of the RVIA board pleasure themselves at the expense of worthless badge that we, the buyers of RVs are forced to pay for without choice.

Tom
2 years ago

Looks like they really need to tighten their belt, and up their game. The shield should really mean something.
Expenses exceeds incomes equals idiotic planning. If the shield actually means nothing other than to trick the consumer, why bother?
RVs maybe the last major consumer item without real consumer protection. Reading RVtravel, the warranty offered has no backing.

Dave
2 years ago

In reading all the $$$ numbers there was no mention what they do to inspect a RV. I had issues with my plumbing & I contacted  RVIA & told them about my issue & when I asked for what their plumbing standards were they told me I wasn’t a member so they told me nothing! What the badge is really a BADGE OF SHAME. It infers that that RV with the badge has passed inspections for all of that RV!
Snoopy

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Mikal
2 years ago
Reply to  Dave

This example just goes to show what a sham the RVIA is.

Reality…no interest in consumers other than the $$$ in their pocket.

Those “standards” should be published out for all to see. But wait…since the electrical standards don’t meet NEC and plumbing standards don’t meet NSPC, etc., etc. they do not want that known!

The Justice Dept is worried about Apple…maybe they should look at the RV Industry instead.

Scott
2 years ago

It’s not a seal of approval or a quality assurance stamp. It says on the sticker that it conforms to specific building code standards put forth by nfpa 1192. That’s it!!

Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

Sure, but they put the sticker on even when it doesn’t conform to standards. The things you’ll see with plumbing and electrical can be scary, and yes, they have the sticker.

Ray
2 years ago

There should be a law that instead of some meaningless designation appearing in the center of the badge, the phrase “Buyer Beware” should be prominently displayed.

Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Ray

People keep voting for corporations over their own interests. They’ll never learn.

J B
2 years ago

Anything RV related has become nothing but a money pit to line pockets of rich people…at the cost of working folks who just want to have a sort of enjoyment in life before they are so old they can’t.The owner of FR is an example.

Tom E
2 years ago

Yes, that RVIA quality sticker meant a lot in our 2024 Coachmen Catalina. We discovered after trying to run our furnace the first time that the cabinet was stuffed full of wood and metal shavings placed there by some “creative” cleaning crew instead of disposing of it properly. The furnace duct was also filled with more shavings along with pieces of wood from cutting out the register holes. The shavings were packed into the heat exchanger restricting sufficient air flow and causing the furnace to shut down. It smelled like a campfire inside the camper. Fire safety indeed. And we were informed by Coachmen that the negligent work quality and potential fire hazard were a warranty repair issue.

Mikal
2 years ago
Reply to  Tom E

OMG! Thank goodness you weren’t hurt in a fire!!!

Thomas D
2 years ago
Reply to  Mikal

If you had that much junk left behind, I would check my refrigerator vent. They may have dumped a bunch of waste into it before putting on the vent cover. I know mine was

Neal Davis
2 years ago

Thank you, Andy! 🙂 Fascinating discussion of what might be characterized as the RV industry’s “dirty laundry,” or “skeletons in the closet.” However it is named, it is a bad deal for all but RVIA. I wonder at what point leading manufacturers choose to let their membership lapse? Thanks again and safe travels! 🙂

Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Neal Davis

Never! That money keeps the government off their back. That’s the only way to rip off consumers.

Neal Davis
2 years ago
Reply to  Ron

Why not “free ride?” That is, pay no membership fee and get the benefit of the lobbying efforts of RVIA? Everyone need not pay because the lobbying is not company-specific, but industry-specific.

Vince S
2 years ago

Paying for the RVIA sticker is like paying the gas guzzler tax.

It doesn’t improve the fuel mileage, reduce emissions or increase the vehicle’s value. It’s just another nefarious fee that has zero bearing on improving anything.

Roger Marble
2 years ago
Reply to  Vince S

Ah but the fuel MPG rating sticker can be used as establishing an implied “Quality” statement for if 2 vehicles have the same stated MPG and all the vehicles from one MFG failed to deliver the stated MPG it would be hard if not impossible to argue to a jury that the sticker did not add some perceived “value” to a vehicle.

Alain T.
2 years ago

Thanks Andy for this info. What I really find interesting is that nearly every year the Rvia boasts having helped to strike down or block the enactment of Consumer protection laws (lemon laws) that would have applied specifically or in part to RVs. Quite a system by which rv buyers are led to believe their rv meets high build standards while paying themselves to fund lobbying and legal fees so the Rvia members (manufacturers) can keep making their products as cheap as possible without any real accountability.

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Ron
2 years ago
Reply to  Alain T.

Bingo! It’s true purpose. I always say, If it were good for the consumer, the industry would certainly not pay for it.

Dennis G.
2 years ago

After reading the article, it seems human-nature is to spend monies without much thought to budgets and expenditures. When income is from making products and offering customer services, often people value the income generated, and oversee projects such as event planning, with a budget.
Once an organization of people obtain income from any form of taxable style revenue, be it direct taxes, HOA fees and the like, money becomes a nebulous item to see as a never ending flow. Without any pain, by the spender, to consider how best the money is to be used. Opening the door to spending, without thought, or care.

Fred
2 years ago

The RVIA is a worthless organization to the end consumer. It only gives a false sense of security to the bankers, insurers, & dealers, that the rv meets certain quality standards, which in most cases, it does not. I ordered a new triple slide truck camper, delivered in June, 2022 that had over 70 different, serious issues/failures in the first 12 months, including multiple electrical, plumbing, propane, & structural issues. The manufacturer was unresponsive to many of the problems. It had 11 water line & structural water intrusion issues. Most all appliances & electrical equipment failed in the first 6 months. So the RVIA label is a meaningless label to the consumer.

Scott
2 years ago
Reply to  Fred

Maybe you could have peeled it off and stuck it on one of those leaks…then it may have had some value? Aggravating self promotion by an industry that walks around regularly with 2 black eyes sporting a new and exciting look

MrDisaster
2 years ago

Some campgrounds use the RVIA seal as a determination whether the rig will be allowed in. At least one membership camping group has even placed the need for the seal in their rules.

ccg
2 years ago
Reply to  MrDisaster

Yes, we’ve run into this with our custom B van – which is better built than a corresponding size Winnebago or Thor van!

GTP
2 years ago

I just read the entirety of NFPA 1192 and for the most part, it does not say s*** about the quality of builds. It only covers basic Electrical, Plumbing, Heating and Fire Safety practices. The only finish product test requirements listed in 1192 is a pressure test of the plumbing system post assembly. Reality, in my opinion its a worthless sticker paid for by the consumer to fund board members who rely on this tax from manufactures as income, while simultaneously lobbying politicians to “NOT” hold the industry accountable for poor manufacturing practices and the utilization of substandard quality of components used in manufacturing.

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2 years ago
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Thank you for doing that research, GTP. And just keep in mind, the manufacturers pay the RVIA for those (probably worthless) stickers. I’m quite sure (i.e., 100%) that price is then added on to the price of the RV, which the consumer then pays for diddly squat, as my dad used to say, in return. Have a good afternoon/evening. 😀 –Diane at RVtravel.com

Scott
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

so, in other words that your dad might have said, self promotion of build quality spoken to promote a lie (that we are forced to support as a line item in the invoice). What a racket…

Diane, how can you report this stuff without tearing out hair or shouting? It make my blood boil

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

Hi, Scott. You saw my lonnnnng reply to Gregg Fore’s reply to Andy Zipser. Andy asked for Fore to specify which facts Andy got out of context, to which Fore did not respond except to say, to everyone in general, “I would be more than happy to respond to any reasonable question regarding RVIA if I know the answer. So, ask away and we can hopefully have a legitimate discussion.” I did quite a bit of research on RVIA’s website and added a few quotes from there in my lengthy response, which quotes seemed to me to justify Andy’s report. Yes, my dad was a very honest and forthright man, whom everyone respected. He would have been appalled if he knew about those basically worthless RVIA “stamps of approval” paid for by the customers on their new RVs with the shoddy workmanship. So the sticker is worth “diddly squat,” per my dad. And I thought Fore’s rude “parting shot” in his comment to Andy was very telling, and not what you would expect from a person with an otherwise (publicly) glowing record (Google him). Have a great day. 😀 –Diane

Scott
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

He probably wrote the google article himself portraying him as a stellar addition to humanity

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

I considered that as well, Scott.🤔 Take care. 😀 –Diane

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Scott

BTW, Scott. I forgot to address your last paragraph. Yes, my hair is getting thinner, but I think that’s just due to advanced years, not with having to read and proof stories like this and pulling it out.🙄 And I never yell, except maybe in my head. (But maybe that explains why my ears are ringing all of the time?🤔) Have a good afternoon/evening. 😀 –Diane

Robert Adams
2 years ago
Reply to  GTP

Is it true that using vulgar language is a sign of a small mind?

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Robert Adams

Sorry, Robert. When I read through the comment (too) quickly, I missed that word. I’ve modified it so it’s not quite so blatant but still gets his point across. BTW, typos usually jump out at me. Since I never swear, I’m surprised that didn’t also jump out at me.🤔 I think I somehow totally skipped the first line. Have a good night. 🙂 –Diane at RVtravel.com

Robert Adams
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

Thanks Diane-I am not a saint but swearing has become too commonly accepted particularly in the younger generation. I am retired navy so we cussed a lot.

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2 years ago
Reply to  Robert Adams

You’re welcome, Robert. My dad (a Navy Seabee during WWII) never swore at home (well, maybe twice) because he didn’t want his three daughters growing up around swear words. So, none of us ever swore either. But you’re correct that swearing is becoming way too common, especially with younger generations. My sons, 47 and 43😲, rarely swear, especially when Mom’s within hearing range.😉 Probably because they also grew up in a house with no swearing. I think refraining from swearing, especially in just a general conversation, is a sign of respect and maturity, actually.🤔 BTW, Thank you for your service, Robert.🤗 Take care. 😀 –Diane

Robert Adams
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

Loved those Seabees

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Robert Adams

Gary Bunzer, The RV Doctor, was also a Seabee. He got soooo excited when I told him my dad was one. I sure miss Gary. He was one of a kind. –Diane

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago

Here is a post from Publisher Chuck Woodbury two years ago regarding the RVIA: RVs do not break down. RVs do not leak! And here’s a post from him from 2019 regarding the RVIA and RV lemon laws (with more posts and videos included). Yep, some interesting reading there. —Diane at RVtravel.com

Gregg Fore
2 years ago

Your readers minds went right to the gutter. My “Go pleasure yourself somewhere else” apparently hit some nerves😂 I would be more than happy to respond to any reasonable question regarding RVIA if I know the answer. So, ask away and we can hopefully have a legitimate discussion. Thank you

Roger Marble
2 years ago

I wonder if a “Class-Action” lawsuit for false and misleading advertising might get some attention. The “Class” is easy to define as most RVs have the sticker. It would be obvious that there is an implied notice of better quality which would have some value to the consumer. IMO all that is needed is a hungry law firm.

Snayte
2 years ago
Reply to  Roger Marble

That seal was a line item on the invoice for my TT so we are paying for it too.

Gary Blackburn
2 years ago

The article and comments were interesting and, with exceptions, constructive. I learned something new. Perhaps I should place a disclaimer below my elegant RVIA placard stating something to the effect of “Don’t you believe it,” or “Wishful thinking,” or “Requirements not enforced,” or, well…make one up for me.

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Diane McGovern
2 years ago
Reply to  Gary Blackburn

“Look at this pretty, shiny, worthless sticker that I paid for when I bought my problem-ridden RV.”🤔🤣 (Did I say that?🫢) Have a great day, Gary. 😀 –Diane at RVtravel.com

Scott
2 years ago
Reply to  Diane McGovern

This what most of us were thinking…RVIA has standards…they are either low / non existent. What a joke