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Legislation to ban motorhome and portable generators threatens RVers

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SATURDAY, DEC. 5, 2021 — A seemingly innocuous air pollution proposal before the California Legislature could ban the sale of portable generators in the state, and have a crippling effect on RVers who rely on them to power their rigs when shore power is not available.

According to definition of the proposal, the ban could include the use of generators installed in most motorhomes and other motorized RVs. RVers who travel with trailers and fifth wheels would be unable to use portable generators.

What is confusing at the moment is if the bill intends to ban the use of portable generators and/or ban the sale of them beginning in 2024. We will follow up on this tomorrow when state offices open again, and update for next Sunday’s issue.

Assembly Bill 1346 would compel the California Air Resources Board to adopt regulations by July 1, 2022, to prohibit emissions from all small off-road engine engines (SORE) including portable generators. While it may be intended to promote the use of battery-operated lawn and garden equipment, it will also result in banning the sale of portable generators in the state as soon as 2024.

43018.11.
(a) (1) By July 1, 2022, the state board shall, consistent with federal law, adopt cost-effective and technologically feasible regulations to prohibit engine exhaust and evaporative emissions from new small off-road engines, as defined by the state board. Those regulations shall apply to engines produced on or after January 1, 2024, or as soon as the state board determines is feasible, whichever is later.

The proposal assumes that portable generators could be replaced with so-called ZEE generators (zero-emission equipment). However, ZEE “generators” rely on battery power and electricity for charging that is not available during power outages and natural disasters. These ZEE units are typically five to twenty times the cost of gasoline-powered portable generators, yet they only provide backup power for a short period of time (typically 1-2 hours) before the battery is discharged. Furthermore, once the batteries are discharged, they cannot be recharged during power outages without expensive solar panels or expensive spare charged batteries.

For these reasons, the Portable Generator Manufacturers’ Association (PGMA) is requesting an exemption for portable generators be included in the proposal.

An estimated 1.5 million portable generators exist in California, primarily used by residents during natural disasters and during frequent rolling blackouts enacted by local utilities to mitigate demand on the power grid or protect against fire danger.



THIS ARTICLE WAS UPDATED AT NOON (Pacific time), Sunday, Dec. 5.

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Terence Cooper
1 month ago

This is ridiculous 😒

AZANDY
1 month ago

So is it wrong to say, RV’ers lets ban together and not visit California! With all the stupid laws and rules, not a place on my list anymore… Just my opinion….

Kevin
1 month ago

They sure don’t want people to stay or visit CA do they?

Richard E. Staats
1 month ago

Only in CA

Coon tastic
1 month ago

Like it’s not 10 companies contributing to 70 percent of green house gases. f**k out of here with this non sense.

Brent S
1 month ago

Glad to see them go. I’m always amazed by the jerks that go “camping” and sit in their RV running their gens for hours or crank them up at 7am to make coffee. – amateurs. If you want to watch TV all day then stay home.

Bill Franke
1 month ago

In the campground, a ban on generators would be welcome by me. The constant noise and toxic exhaust seems to always be next door to me. I use solar panels to keep my gel cell batteries charged. No need for generators.
Note to buyers of new RV’s. Make sure you buy one with 3 way refrigerator. Manufacturers should be banned from installing electric only refrigerators.

Vincee
1 month ago

I’m wondering where my comment/post from earlier today went?

MikeinAz
1 month ago
Reply to  Vincee

Some of mine have disappeared too. I suspect the moderator is busy deleting questionable comments (in their ridiculous opinion anyway).

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1 month ago
Reply to  MikeinAz

Hi, MikeinAz and Vincee. Yep, some comments are being removed by me and other moderators because, like we have pointed out umpteen times, we don’t want/need/permit name-calling, inflammatory remarks, etc., here at RVtravel.com. So, in our “ridiculous opinion(s)”, we’re following our guidelines and deleting some comments, since you and several others tend to ignore them. BTW, sometimes words get automatically (bleeped) by our filters, also. You can post whatever you want anywhere else on social media, but not here. Thank you. –Diane

Marcus
1 month ago
Reply to  RV Staff

Yada Yada Yada!
Whatever Diane, the clowns in CA get what they deserve. ‘Go woke, Go broke’

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RV Staff(@rvstaff)
1 month ago
Reply to  Marcus

Well, that response certainly made my day. Thanks, Marcus. 🙄 (I’m leaving it in so others can see some of what we deal with when we have more important items we should be working on – like newsletters.) Take care, and stay healthy. 🙂 -Diane

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1 month ago
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😆 😆 😆 Someone just reported (to me!) that my comment to MikeinAz and Vincee is “Abusive.” Get a grip, folks. Dang! I have work to do. Have a good night, whoever you are. –Diane

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1 month ago
Reply to  RV Staff

And now they’ve flagged my fairly polite comment to MikeinAz and Vincee (explaining why some comments have been deleted) so many times that my comment was put into the Pending file, i.e., for me to approve my own post! Grow up, people, or you’ll be blocked. Just sayin’. –Diane

KATHRYN VALERO
1 month ago

How about during electricity outages? Storms, lightning strikes, high usage times? Stupidity.

dPapa
1 month ago

Great, this presents a potential new revenue source for resourceful Nevadans and Oregonians. Black market generators, only $3000, each. Haha Cali, what a joke!

Chris Deveney
1 month ago

Ha! Good luck with that. So I guess truckers shouldn’t idle their trucks to recharge their batteries for their inverter system either? It’s the same either way…a has or diesel motor running to produce saved power or running to have usable power. These desk sitters have no idea. I’ll use my generator with a smile on my face. (Bleeped)

MikeinAz
1 month ago
Reply to  Chris Deveney

so will I, at least up until the point that they stop rv’ing because we’re destroying mother earth.

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Al and Dee Dee
1 month ago

I would like to find a lawyer that would handle a federal suite against California on a pro bono basis.

I pay for the national parks in California and they are trying to restrict my personal use of them. I believe that in a year my motorhome which is diesel powered will not be allowed unless I make expensive upgrades for dpf and def systems. This is my personal property and yet California allows a 5, 000 mile per year exception to it’s residents for use of diesel equipment.

That said I quit going to California in 1982 and refused all business from that state. As far as I’m concerned let them eat s**t and call it steak. The people who live there deserve the government of spacecadets and (bleeped) they choose.

gary gaisler
1 month ago

Meanwhile everything you buy is made in china, India or other Asian countries that are some of the largest contributors to air, ground and water pollution. I guess if you can’t see it from your house it doesn’t exist.

Mark
1 month ago

What a shock. Sad that you have to resort to petty, childish name calling to counter a comment. Not the first time in this discussion it seems either. The irony of you calling others “dumb and bitter” escapes no one.

gary gaisler
1 month ago

I predict a large generator and small engine equipment superstore directly next to the California border in NEVADA!!!

Dave
1 month ago

If you read the actual bill it is requiring the small engines to meet emissions standards for exhaust and evaporative emissions, not banning them. But nice click-bait attempt

Jefferson
1 month ago

Well at least in California there’s something to save. Really can’t say as much about Arizona. At least in Arizona nobody really cares about all the nuclear waste or going to stash there cuz it looks like a nuclear waste dump anyway.

MikeinAz
1 month ago
Reply to  Jefferson

Yeah, San Francisco is a real gem isn’t it?. Actually the whole left coast is a pathetic joke.

I know, now nuclear is bad according to the environmental kooks.I hate to break it to you, but when it comes to nuclear generated electricity that’s nowhere near the failure that solar panels, windmills and batteries are.

Timothy
1 month ago

I did not read the legislation in the way that the author’s connection and rhetoric would lead you to believe. First, despite what the instructions to the CARB are written, there are two caveats, feasibility and technology. Second, it only applies to engines manufactured starting in 2024. Hopefully, technology will advance to accomodate that. The boating world is currently using battery/inverter backup power. So this isn’t a far-fetched idea or goal.

At first, I thought of the dune buggies and dirt bikes out there, but again, starting 2024 manufacture date.

The headlight and conjecture in this article is misleading and irresponsible reporting. In fact, it is not a news article because it is full of baseless opinion unsupported by the facts.

Decrypt the actual facts for yourself when you read things, then form your own informed opinion, and stop ‘parroting’ what other people tell you to think, say, and feel.

LizW.
1 month ago
Reply to  Timothy

Well said. Often when I apply logic and a tiny bit of research to RVT ‘news’ flashes, I find the piece to be biased and opinion. Look at all the commenters who got all cranked up here.
It states “small engines” so I thought about dunies, dirt bikes etc as well.

TTTCOTTH
1 month ago

What did Californians use for light before candles?

Electricity 🤣

TTTCOTTH
1 month ago

When generators are outlawed only outlaws will have generators 🤣

Out of my cold dead hands.

MikeinAz
1 month ago
Reply to  TTTCOTTH

People in this country better wake up before it’s too late. The environmental nuts are going to cost us huge amounts of money, ruin our lifestyles and livelihoods with this totally unnecessary push to go green.

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