Thursday, September 16, 2021
Thursday, September 16, 2021

Reader asks: What to do with nosy busybodies in RV parks?

Long-time RVer and RVtravel.com reader Jeffrey Torsrud sent this to us and we couldn’t help but chuckle. Ah, the pains of RVers. We do know those people, Jeffrey, and we know exactly what you’re talking about. He wrote:

“We recently stayed at an RV Park in Theodore, AL (close to Mobile, AL) and found that the RV Park has a network of spies and busybodies! You know the ones who feel it is their duty to report any and all infractions to the management?

“We have only run across this a few times in the 19 years of RVing, but it seems to be a problem. It would be interesting to see commentary on what other RVers have encountered and what they would do about it!”

Any advice for Jeffrey? What do you do when people at the RV park or campground seem to know everything going on, are snooping a little too deep, and/or feel the need to report even the tiniest of annoyances or wrongdoings? Tell us (and Jeffrey) in the comments.

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Donna
1 month ago

We stayed at a park in PA where their rules were as long as my arm. We did our best to comply. When we arrived, we had all the paperwork ready for them but the lady at the desk said she didn’t want them. That was fine but after getting settled, we got a nasty text from the owner/manager saying we hadn’t left off our paperwork. Dh told them the lady at the office didn’t want them. Nothing after that. Then another text from the owner/manager that we need to clean up after our dog. We don’t have a dog and dh said so in a text back. Since we never saw the owner/manager ever during our stay, we assumed it was spies. 😉

Don
1 month ago

It would be enlightening to know just WHAT infringements were being reported. It may be that Jeffrey is one of those folks who just likes to ignore the rules. God knows there are plenty of those…

Brenda
1 month ago

I guess it would be what they are reporting. Rule breakers? We try to stay out of that till it regards us. Had a neighbors grandkids out behind our rig shooting a gun. Now there was a lot of land at this park he could be using way from everyone’s RV’s, but he was behind ours. So we complained. Not knowing if he should even be doing that, so we suggested the managers, if allowed, to move him away from rigs. They did, but really, little respect for others.

Kathryn
1 month ago
Reply to  Brenda

Haha. So, YOU’RE the busybody spy!

Kathryn
1 month ago
Reply to  Kathryn

Sorry Brenda. That was meant for Don, above you.

Donald N Wright
1 month ago

I guess I am lucky, no one bothers me. I walk the campground, say hello to everyone I see. Sometimes I sprinkle red pepper around the tree trunks in my campsite at night, to keep leashless dogs away.

Naomi Haynes
6 months ago

I have a small park in the Smokies and have read the comments with great interest. I am easy about things other than moving the fire rings and burning another circle in my grass and not picking up behind the dogs. I do have several long term and seasonal guests but I am harder on them than day campers. Barking dogs and thinking I need a chamber of commerce representative gets them sent on their way in a hurry. Two BBs come to mind—they went to every new check in and aggravated them by engaging in conversation that was none of their business. Stepping into a guest campsite without being invited gets a reprimand and and then an eviction talk from me if it continues. I am flabbergasted at the behavior that has been described here.

Cecilia
6 months ago

Enjoy The Journey, full-time RVers, decided to stay at a small HOA owned RV Park in Destin, FL for two or three months. It is a very expensive place. They received so much unnecessary harassment by the full-timers and management, they had to do a whole video series on it!

Terri
1 year ago

The RV park we are at, in Oregon, has gotten ridiculous about watching you. Spies all over, and every little thing is watched, you get notes taped to your door all the time.
They even told someone that his dog leash was to long, and is to be no longer than 6 ft.
Well, I have stood my ground about unreasonable demands, and never ending rule changes, new rules constantly, but if it’s not reasonable and is not even mentioned in my rental agreement, they cannot enforce them.
I am a very abiding tenant and respects neighbors and do my due diligence as a full timer, however, by Oregon Laws, statutes and rental laws, when paying for a space to reside, you have rights to privacy and enjoyment where you chose to call home.
My opinion is that it’s time to stand up for civiil rights, and being treated with respect and with human decency. I will not be bullied or threatened, or treated unfairly and unjust by people with control issues and are just hateful.
Good luck to you! ☺️

Maggie
1 year ago

I frequently stay at U.S. Army COE park campgrounds in SC. The fewer campers there are, the more harassing you get from Park Rangers and other campers. Mean BBs with nothing better to do and the Park Ranger is obligated to correct the situation. This ends in Apr when the season gets busy. But this ugliness is no different than living in a “planned community”. Never buy in a planned community. I am not a full timer and the townhouse community in Lexington NC is horrific with BBs and crybabies.. all elderly women with a few men thrown in for good measure. They sit in their garages and watch everything and everyone and spread malicious gossip. Worse, they are breaking all the rules themselves but they run the Board. These people are mentally defective and that is how I deal with them… keep my distance and do not make eye contact. This seems to be a wide-spread problem where people live (or park) in close quarters or have little privacy. I mind my own business on the road and off but others feed off harassing people when little can be done to stop it. They can ruin your day/week/month. No refunds from the COE parks so you suck it up and tough it out if it is off season and just hope they are close to their max 14 day stay and will leave.

Darrel
1 year ago

Yes. Read the campground rules on arrival and comply with them. Then the busybodies have nothing to report to management.

Dave
1 month ago
Reply to  Darrel

Exactly.

Debbie
1 month ago
Reply to  Darrel

I totally agree!

DL Jenson
1 month ago
Reply to  Darrel

Yeppers!

Mel
1 year ago

We booked a site in a Wisconsin county park last summer. The max stay is 21 days so that is what we did so we could visit our son. Most of the campers came for weekend stays so we were shocked when the camp host came to us and said that several people had asked her how long were we going to be allowed to stay. That’s the first and only time we encountered busy bodies.

Kamwick
1 month ago
Reply to  Mel

Why is the camp host coming to talk with you about this? No one’s business how long you’re going to stay.

Steph
1 month ago
Reply to  Mel

Maybe you had a spot that they wanted so wanted to know when it would be available…Still no reason to ask as they can just see from the reservation calendar the availability. Otherwise it is not anyone else’s business except between you and the camp host.

livingboondockingmexico
1 year ago

Once we were at the county park at South Padre Island. The rules are clearly stated one of which is to keep your dog on a leash. Well, the little whipper snapper jumped out the door of the rv for less than a few seconds. Old Nosey O’Donnell who was parked behind us reported us as not having our dog on a leash. The park ranger came and gave us a warning. Later, I put a sign on the back of the rv for Snoop Dog to see and it read, “We know who you are”. Next thing we knew, she had packed up and was driving away. We had considered it a joke but I guess with Mexican plates she thought otherwise. Mind your own business.

So since then we are boondockers all the way.

Darrel
1 year ago

Nothing like intimidating and threatening other campers eh??

Kamwick
1 month ago

Well, your dog WAS off leash 😉

Dawne Keeler Schnitker
1 month ago
Reply to  Kamwick

Life happens and sometimes they get out. They got their dog under control.

WEB
1 month ago

Well “life happens”, how big would the little whipper snapper have to be before it would be a problem in your eyes? And if that “little whipper snapper” was a bulldog and only biting the little kid “less than a few seconds”, you think that too is OK?
Any dog running out the door, unleashed is NOT “under your control” so stop making the rules fit your mindset.

Larry Lee
1 month ago
Reply to  WEB

Agree. Why would anyone open the door before snapping the leash on?
We have neighbors who consistently open their door, let their 2 large dogs run out, loudly yell one of the dogs’ names, and then chase after them as though it is all an accident. Really people. Leash on before door open. So simple.

Robbie
1 year ago

We’ve been boondocking in the Arizona desert for the past 11 weeks. Not one single problem with anyone. We avoid RV parks like we avoid the plague.

Wolfe
1 year ago

I usually deal with busybodies by telling them how to prop their comments upright so they can land on them on. 😀

I totally agree with frustration over busy-bodies (BBs)…

I’ve had people standing in the road staring at their watches, just so they can demand I turn off my air conditioner STRICTLY the moment generator hours end — the problem being I wasn’t running a generator — I can run entirely from battery for short runs.

I’ve had BB’s complain my hose was connected to the fillup spigot WHILE I was currently filling up my tank — I just didn’t want to drag the trailer closer when I can run a long hose.

I’ve had BBs complain my ADA Service dog wasn’t on a leash — she is, carrying it in her mouth.

I’ve had BBs complain I walked my dog along the road, claiming dogs can’t leave the actual rented site (wrong…).

I could keep listing idiots I’ve met over the years, but you get the idea… We’re not talking about speeding idiots complaining about people properly asking them to slow down. We’re complaining about complainers who make a lifestyle out of continuous harassment.

Darrel
1 year ago
Reply to  Wolfe

I’ve had BBs complain my ADA Service dog wasn’t on a leash — she is, carrying it in her mouth.

So you are one of THOSE…..

Pat
1 month ago
Reply to  Wolfe

The one thing that parks don’t always add and should is, “On a leash no longer than 6′ and under your control”. A small child walking a 60 lb. dog, while darling to see, could not control their dog if it decided to take off after another camper’s dog. If a dog is under voice control at all times then that person fulfills the spirit of the rule.

It’s amazing how many people buy a harness and pack from amazon, slap them on their dog and call it a service dog, just so they can take their dog where it would not normally be allowed. Per ADA regulations, the only question hosts or rangers would be allowed to ask is, “What service does your dog (snake, pet rat, etc.) provide for you?”

Carl
1 year ago

We camp at State parks in Wisconsin, and for the most parT, most neighbors are polite and respectful of each other and follow the camping etiquette. There are always a few of (that group) that believe they can do whatever they want, but they are the exception and normally don’t stay long. State parks don’t allow longer stays than 14 days in a row with no seasonal, so that also helps.

Cindy
1 year ago

I suspect that after a few reports from these people the campground management stop listening to them anyway. They become an annoyance. I’d ignore them, and I suspect a lot of management does as well.

Al Philips
1 year ago

My wife and I have stayed many times in a campground in Central Illinois. We’ve been there when the park was next to empty, and when full. On one occasion our neighbor had a campfire that was so close to my Class A, that the slide out side was getting warm. Ashes and such were flying through the air. I was very concerned that burning ashes would land on my topper. I reported this individual to the campground manager. The manager promptly instructed him to move his fire further away from my coach, which he did. Why didn’t I ask the neighbor to relocate his fire? He didn’t have the concern or consideration to notice that his fire was too close to my coach, what would his reaction be if I asked him to move his fire? You would have had to have been there to get a sense of my not wanting to approach this individual. Let’s just say that the ‘vibes’ coming from him and his family were not inviting.
Fellow campers are usually very friendly and reasonable. Once in a while, we have seen some who are uncaring and only concerned about their needs and desires. Better to report these kind to the management if they are not following the campground’s rules!

Gman
1 year ago
Reply to  Al Philips

Why wouldn’t you talk to them and state your concern. Some people sometimes come off that way but are reasonable as you state. Think they won’t know it was you who reported them, your vibes could be wrong. Just saying, we all just need to get along, it’s not hard.

Kamwick
1 month ago
Reply to  Gman

We are in a campground where the management explicitly states to contact them instead of the neighbors if there are any issues.

Recently had an incident here where two dads got in a vicious fight over their kids’ baseball game. Police and ambulance were called. Probably no reasoning with those types anyway, especially after a few beers

If Al sensed ‘vibes’, he was probably right. I’ve seen some campsites where the inhabitants looked like they came straight from ‘Deliverance’. Who knows, they could be great people, but why take a chance?

Lisa Brennan
1 month ago
Reply to  Gman

As a former campground manager, I have experienced this problem. When the neighbor would ask something, like move fire pit, it can start a t*t for tat situation from that point. I was fine having the camper come to me and asking them to move the fire pit. I got not backlash as the manager.

Brad
1 year ago
Reply to  Al Philips

Most likely he /she would have moved it, it sounds like you need to be a bit more tolerant and Alston neighborly, 98 % of people I have camped in close proximity to would have moved it in a hot second maybe you should take the advice of others and communicate properly with your camp neighbors then if they acted the {bleeped} then go to the office

Brad
1 year ago
Reply to  Brad

Correction: (Also) not Alston another point to the comment I replied to, You seem to me like a BB to not talk to a fellow RVer before reporting them to the office is the exact example of a BB, I to have a Class A also & have been bouncing around the States since August 1st I have had one incident in that entire time & that wasn’t any of the reasons you or anyone else had mentioned mine was about a camper leaking sewage between our coaches and I talked with that campers owner & we got the problem resolved without needing to involve management, Talk To Your Neighbors it works wonders ( True RVers That is, not permanent resident campers) as real RVers a majority of the time respect on another unlike permanent residents of campsites JMO

Lisa Brennan
1 month ago
Reply to  Brad

Just because you have not experienced unneighborly campers,(lucky you) for lack of a better word, doesn’t mean others haven’t. Consider yourself lucky. Accept how others handled their situation, without bashing their decision.

Susan Fucci
1 year ago
Reply to  Al Philips

I agree with you Al, these days you never know what the reaction from someone is going to be. Management is there for a reason and they should be the ones to deal with it.

Ray
6 months ago
Reply to  Susan Fucci

I have to agree with you Al and a few others on your side. Let’s just say I’m next to these people and their campfire is 6 feet high and the wind is blowing the smoke and sparks going all over the place, so I go over and express my concerns and they rep!y freak off old man go back to your site and mind your own business, so now it starts to escalates what if they have a concealed weapon? Or decides to assault me? I’m to old to get shot at or beat up or bullied. So to me it seems to me to play it safe and let management take care of it.

Pat
1 month ago
Reply to  Ray

I agree, times are past when we could assume everyone was reasonable. Further, I feel if the person had a functioning brain they would have realized they’d built the fire too close to another rig. I won’t risk my safety in a situation like that.

Debbie
1 month ago
Reply to  Pat

I totally agree. If they were inconsiderate enough to build a fire that close, that’s the first sign of potential trouble.

Lisa Brennan
1 month ago
Reply to  Ray

Exactly.

CandaceB
1 year ago

Let me provide another point of view. Those who complain about being reported to campground management are typically those who think the rules shouldn’t apply to them. They are the ones who own an aggressive, unsocialized dog and/or let the dog run off leash and/or don’t clean up after the dog. They drive too fast and endanger children. They sit outside talking loudly and/or playing loud music after hours. They pile up junk and trash around their rigs. Their thoughtless behavior knows no bounds.

One of the things I appreciate about an RV campground is that unlike a bricks and mortar neighborhood there ARE rules and they ARE enforced. Children can ride bikes and skateboard on the roads. People can take evening walks. All in safety.

We usually just move on when there’s a neighbor problem, which is actually pretty rare, but our sense is that those who don’t want rules should boondock.

Lisa
1 year ago

Jeff,

As a full time RV’er, we take offense to your discriminating comment. Let’s just group all parks with some full-time rver’s in them and make a list to never stay at them. What sense does that make?

Regarding the speed limit issue. You don’t need a radar gun or calibrated eyes to see someone is speeding over 5 miles an hour. If your foot isn’t on the brake, off and on, your going over 5 mph. 5 mph is the speed of a turtle. We have been known to ask people to slow down. Why? Campers walking their dogs and children in the park. Public safety not important to you? We almost had our dog run over by a speeding camper.

If you don’t care about other campers safety, then by all means avoid our campgrounds.

Jeff
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa

Well Lisa: As a NON-FULL Timer, I personally don’t care what you take offense too. I am not PC and never have been. The RV Park in question, is virtually impossible to Speed over 5mph, unless your foot is on the accelerator!
And I am truly concerned about safety and other people in RV Parks. I don’t speed!
Enough said!

Ray
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff

Good for you Jeff,I don’t think Lisa or big bad Mark the cop can think outside the box.I go camping to relax, yes I have a dog, yes I bring my poop bag and gloves, my dog is on a leash that’s less than 6 feet, no I don’t speed, my campfires within the campgrounds limits. I’m friendly if you come and introduce your self I do the but if you start asking questions that you don’t need answers too that’s when I ask you to leave. I’ll bet Lisa and Mark have golf carts and drink and drive around them.Lisa and Mark are Hippocrates, that’s my opinion.

Mark
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa

I agree with Lisa. It doesn’t take a “calibrated eye” to tell if someone is going over 5mph… why do you need video as proof… at 6’3” 260 and a recently retired LEO out of CA, I don’t need to tattle to management. I’ve seen a few speeders in parks as they whizzed by me and my pupper. As Lisa said, if you aren’t riding your brakes, you’re going faster than 5. I confronted a couple of the speeders, 1 or 2 weren’t happy (I can’t win as a cop or civilian). People don’t like being called out, it’s the same for doggie parents who get called out for not picking up poop… I simply then barked at them to slow the f*** down or I’d go to management (and these were in non-long term parks) So if you got called out by a few people for speeding… I’d be pissed too if I was staying long term and you came into my neighborhood for a night or 2 and sped. I love how 99% of the people here immediately believed you… I rarely stay in parks but when I do, I completely avoid those with long term residents.

Rory R
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa

I have a question, you said “we almost had our dog run over by a speeding camper”, was your dog on a leash?

Jeff
1 year ago

Hi Folks:
My Wife and I do allot of research when it comes to Campgrounds and RV Parks! We look at Good Sams and other review places and the biggest thing we look for is HOW MANY SPACES do they have and HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE!
The RV Park we just stayed at in Theodore, AL, listed it as 41 Spaces, but only 20 were available for RVers! Meaning they have allot of Full Timers, and in this case Allot of Busy Bodies, “Know It Alls” and “Cry Babies”! We were supposed to stay for 7 days, but left early after being accosted by management about someone complaining about us driving too fast in the Park. For those who have been to this RV Park, the speed limit is 5 mph, narrow concrete road and even narrower gravel road in the rear of the park, with power poles right up to the edge. Making impossible to speed or travel faster than 5 mph.

I confronted the Management, who also happen to be the owners and asked them, “WHO HAS THE SPEED GUN or Calibrated Eyeballs” in the park that know I was going faster than 5 mph. I demanded to know and asked, “Did You see me speeding or going over your Speed Limit”? NO ANSWER! This woman accused me of doing something without any proof, only a few Emails (she says) and phone calls!
We left the next day, 2 days early and lost our money for the remaining 2 days, which this park quickly rented the space and reaped the benefit.
I think anyone would be angry, if someone accused you of doing something, without Proof!
We did find out from a couple of our temporary neighbors, this park has a “CLICK” of people in it. You know the types, think they own the place! Apparently, this CLICK have “Get togethers” on a regular basis and you have to be invited to go! WOWSER!

There are a number of Good or Better RV Parks in the Mobile, AL area.

This is ONE RV PARK we will avoid forever!

Bottom Line: If an RV Park says they have a Bunch of Sites, but only a few are available for RVers, stay away from these Parks!

OK, OFF THE SOAPBOX, “AGAIN”!

You all take care!

S Lewis
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

We too have been to this particular park, the real funny thing is…when we checked in, they CLAIM they DO NOT HAVE ANYONE LIVING THERE ON PERMANENT BASIS! We too laughed at that after being there for a few days and noticing majority that DO NOT LEAVE, with all of their own patio furniture etc. Most definitely tooooo tight of a fit in your slot for any privacy, even while in your own RV!

Jeff
1 year ago
Reply to  S Lewis

It’s good and not good, you have experienced this RV Park! The word needs to be passed around!
“Word of Mouth” is a powerful tool!

Howard Malpass
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

I stayed in a park in Albuquerque, NM while on my way up Colorado. It seemed like some of them were in there like it was a mobile home park for life! Yes….. it was on Good Sam and I was amazed at how insulting some of them could be. When confronted by the “last straw” individual, I put it blunt….. it would be physically impossible for him to do what I told him to do, but I stood there and he shut his mouth and walked away with his busy body “wife”! I personally do not care to take any crap off any of them. And I don’t!

Cam
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

And yet it gets 9.5 out of 10 on over 80 reviews on campgroundreviews.com. Go figure.
I would just tell the old biddy that I was going 7 mph cause I didn’t want the meth to overcook, grab a beer and wait for the fun to start! 😀

BobG
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff

Jeff, I hate to disagree with your post… We’ve been at the park you describe since 1/1 (leaving 3/1), and we’ve noticed campsite turnover in at least 30 of the 41 sites.

Possibly more; however, I’m quite confident about the 30. And no, we don’t “monitor” our neighbors – we walk the campground every day, and like to observe the comings and goings of the different RV types.

[And, at least IMO, none of the sites have the “typical” permanent resident appearance. Please note that, like us, there are a number of snowbirds here for 1-2+ months, so of course the sites won’t “recycle” every few days…]

We’ve never “tattled” on anyone while here. Nor – to our knowledge – have any complaints been registered against us.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. In this case, we’ve thoroughly enjoyed our time here, and consider the owners to be great and mindful hosts

Bill T.
1 year ago

Personally I don’t care. If busybody gossip and tattling makes them feel good and gives them self-importance and a purpose to their otherwise miserable day, then so be it. It’s the “chatty Cathy’s” I can’t stand. It’s one thing to meet people, have a brief conversation and then move on, but those folks that just never know when to shut up and leave are the one’s that irk me. I don’t like to be rude but sometimes you just have to be blunt with your signals for them to leave.

Kamwick
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill T.

Right? You keep moving and turning away like you’ve got something else to do and they actually follow you. I just say, ‘well, it’s nice talking but I’ve got to get to going’.

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