Tuesday, November 28, 2023


Phantom driver totals RV. This could happen to you!

By all accounts it was a great day in Southeast Oklahoma. A good day for motoring down the road with your RV. That’s exactly what was happening for David C., an RVtravel.com reader. Towing what he describes as “Our fourth rig, and our favorite of them all,” it was probably a picture-perfect moment. Perfect, that is, until he crested a hill on the two-lane blacktop and found a logging truck in his lane, headed straight for him. “Nowhere to go but into the ditch,” recalls David. When the silence finally settled in, David’s travel trailer lay on its side, a total loss. The family was the victim of a phantom driver—the log truck was long gone.

What’s a phantom driver?

Phantom driver? David’s experience is also known in the insurance industry as a “miss and run.” While the definition may vary, depending on state laws, it typically follows the definition that Oregon uses. “’Phantom vehicle’ means ‘a vehicle that causes bodily injury to an insured arising out of a motor vehicle accident that is caused by a vehicle that has no physical contact with the insured or the vehicle the insured is occupying at the time of the accident.’”

The phantom driver may be impaired by alcohol or drugs. They may have been driving recklessly—as one might claim in David’s case. Or they may be simply distracted by something and fail to see the other rig. Some phantom drivers are aware of what happened, and like a classic “hit and run” driver, leave the scene to avoid the consequences. Or some may be so distracted they don’t even know they’ve caused an accident and ride off into the sunset, blissfully unaware of the problems they’ve created.

Insurance claim headaches

In any event, known or unknown, a phantom driver is still responsible for the consequences. But a miss and run accident can create real problems for the damaged party. One can imagine being the insurance company who gets a claim from a customer. He says while driving on an icy road, another driver cut him off. He hit the brakes to avoid an accident and ended up wrapped up in the guardrail. “The guy never stopped,” says the customer. Naturally, the insurance adjuster is going to be suspicious—maybe there never was another driver, and the insured messed up and doesn’t want the accident to count against him.

To that end, state laws take a variety of stands on just what circumstances will enable the injured party in a phantom accident to get relief. In Oregon, the law on phantom accidents says the facts of the case must be corroborated by competent evidence, other than the testimony of the insured or any person having an uninsured motorist claim resulting from it. If a logging truck comes barreling toward you in your lane and you swerve, you’d best have a witness that sees it. That witness could be somebody in the rig with you, provided they aren’t hurt and so won’t be filing a claim against your insurance.

Insult to injury

For David, his one-year-old travel trailer was totally wiped out. Adding insult to injury, David had invested more than $5,000 in upgrades to the rig. Additionally, his pickup truck suffered damage. Happily, nobody in the rig was hurt, but that certainly didn’t stop the financial pain. How would David’s insurance company handle the case, seeing it was David’s word on the matter?

When the oncoming truck caused David to take evasive action it must have been a spectacular scene. The loss of control in hitting the ditch then forced the combination back across the highway, where it finally stopped on the opposite side of the road. Spectacular, indeed, and fortunately, there was a “spectator” who saw the entire incident. Another driver who witnessed the crash immediately stopped to help. That witness stuck around until a state trooper arrived, about an hour later. The trooper was able to get the “testimony” of a disinterested party. David’s insurance company paid for truck repairs, and cut a check for the total loss of his RV.

Lessons for all RVers

What lessons are there for the rest of us? Legal experts have plenty to say when it comes to phantom accidents. If you’re ever the victim of a “miss and run” accident, here’s their advice.

  • If anyone stops to help, ask if they saw the phantom. Get their name and contact information. Immediately write down everything you can remember about the phantom vehicle, make, color, partial (or full) license plate number. Bumper stickers. What the driver looked like.
  • Tell law enforcement at the scene, and when you file a report, about exactly what happened. Be clear, distinct, and precise.
  • The first time you talk with a paramedic, a doctor, or emergency room staff, TELL THEM about the phantom vehicle. The more people who know about this, the better substantiated your case.
  • If you have passengers on board and they’re willing to waive claims against your insurance, get their statements.

Dealing with insurance

As soon as possible, file a claim with your insurance company. This assumes that you are carrying Uninsured Motorist coverage. Be prepared for your insurance company adjuster to play hardball. Be cooperative. It may be wise to get an attorney to represent you, particularly if you’ve suffered injuries or took a lot of rig damage.

Buy as much Uninsured Motorist coverage as you can afford. If you or your passengers are hurt, the upper limits of your coverage are where you come to a grinding halt and pay the rest yourself.

Consider buying and using a dashcam (dash-mounted camera). A good dashcam can be your “disinterested witness” and go a long way to helping you deal with your insurance company. The higher the dashcam’s resolution, the better the images and more useful they’ll be. In the long run, a dashcam might help track down that phantom driver and make him accountable.

Work in advance with your insurance company

David adds his own advice. If you’re working with “declared value” insurance on your RV, find out from your agent if it will keep pace with the RV market. In some instances, what you paid for your RV may be less than what it would sell for now, due to the reportedly “hot market” for RVs. And if you pump a lot of money into improvements in your rig, discuss that with your insurance company so that if the worst happens, you’ll be reimbursed for them.

Miss and runs. Phantom accidents. There’s plenty to watch out for. Hopefully it’ll “never happen to us,” but it can. Be as prepared as you can be.

 More from Russ and Tiña 

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Russ and Tiña De Maris
Russ and Tiña De Maris
Russ and Tiña went from childhood tent camping to RVing in the 1980s when the ground got too hard. They've been tutored in the ways of RVing (and RV repair) by a series of rigs, from truck campers, to a fifth-wheel, and several travel trailers. In addition to writing scores of articles on RVing topics, they've also taught college classes for folks new to RVing. They authored the book, RV Boondocking Basics.



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Bob M (@guest_194023)
1 year ago

I’ve had vehicles come at me head on many times. Once my friend and I were driving to New York wine country when a bus in passing lane was stopped. Told my buddy to slow down going around bus. As we were going around bus an old man with dementia driving a old mint condition Cadillac came from in front of the bus and hit him. Minor damage, ambulance took Cadillac driver to hospital because of dementia. Buddy was trying to figure out how to find out Cadillac drivers info. When he received a call from Cadillac drivers insurance accusing my friend of hitting the Cadillac. My buddy told insurance company I was a witness to crash.Filled out paperwork and my buddy got his car fixed at Cadillac drivers expense.

Jeb (@guest_191566)
1 year ago

In you video compilation if people would use their brake pedal instead of their horn it might create less problems.

Steven Peterson (@guest_191892)
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeb

Brake instead of horn, agreed, but getting your foot off of the gas pedal too! A little patience goes a long way!

Crowman (@guest_191513)
1 year ago

The thing that amazed me is a logging truck in Oklahoma?

Dick and Sandy near Buffalo, NY (@guest_191412)
1 year ago

Dash cams can be expensive until you realize that if you had one it could have saved you 100’s of times or more over the price you would have payed. Just do it and be prepared for something you hope never happens. Stay safe, Stay well.

Steven Peterson (@guest_191870)
1 year ago


Bob p (@guest_191356)
1 year ago

I’ve been using a dash cam for several years, thankfully I haven’t had to use it yet. SIL always asked why I had a dash cam, he was involved in a crash scam coming through Atlanta with his CC Dually and 42’ 5th wheel when a woman driving an older compact car swerved in front of him and stopped, he almost stopped, but rear ended her. The cop investigating the accident listened to what he said and asked if he had a dash cam to prove what he was saying, no. He was charged with following to close and his insurance paid dearly for her claimed injuries and total loss of the car as it was damaged enough for a total claim. He now uses a dash cam. It’s another insurance policy, mine cost $44 and has a 4” screen, I’ve had 2” screens before and you have to use a magnifying glass to see anything clearly.

TexasScout (@guest_191268)
1 year ago

This is why “dash cams” are critically important!

Bob (@guest_191248)
1 year ago

I also use a dash cam. Mine records GPS coordinates, speed and time of day. While it may or may not identify the other vehicle, it is proof that they caused the accident. As far as the case involving the logging truck, the police should be able trace the truck through records of logging in the area and drivers logs of the associated logging companies. The pickup driver avoided what could have been a real disaster, a head on crash.
Glad could walk away.

Tom (@guest_191221)
1 year ago

Dash camera is a part of the solution. Mine is built into the GPS. Keeping a very good record of both time and location.
Now, where do I sent the video record of boneheaded drivers?

Thom R (@guest_191468)
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom

Send it to Bonehead Truckers on YouTube. They also do 4-wheelers

Frank (@guest_191140)
1 year ago

We put a dash cam in our truck a couple of years ago for just such a possible Phantom driver incident. I’ve often wondered what would happen if another driver forced us off the road, but there was no actual contact between our vehicle and theirs. This article is good food for thought. Thank you.

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