What is RV ‘lot rot’ and why it could be your golden ticket to huge savings

By Dave Helgeson
Lot rot
: A term used to describe a new vehicle that has sat on a dealer’s lot for an extended period and is beginning to show signs of aging.

As a former RV dealer, I can attest that lot rot is dealership jargon for the deterioration and damage done to RVs that are exposed to the elements for a prolonged period. All dealers have seen it at some point. An RV is in near-perfect condition when it’s delivered to the dealer’s sales lot from the manufacturer. But slowly, the sun, rain, dust, and debris take a toll. Within several months it begins to look like a used unit and potential buyers begin to take notice.

Signs of lot rot include:

  • Rusty fasteners like nuts, bolts and screws on the exterior of the RV.
  • UV begins to take a toll on the RV, fading decals, plastic trim and components like electrical hatches, propane cylinder covers and roof vents.
  • The flooring begins to show signs of wear, the carpet becomes soiled, and the vinyl becomes dull.
  • Dust begins to settle on hard-to-clean locations.
  • Screw covers begin to gap or pop out of extrusions.
RV Window
Plastic trim has gaped and rusty screw equals lot rot. Dave Helgeson photo
  • Tires may appear a little deflated and show signs of UV deterioration.
  • Small informational decals have begun to peel.
  • There are signs of water intrusion.
  • Cabinet door latches don’t operate as they should due to many potential buyers opening and looking in the cabinets.
  • Motorhomes may not readily start due to the age of the battery and lack of receiving a maintenance charge.
  • Due to supply issues, small parts may be missing that the dealer “borrowed” to fix another unit while waiting for the parts to arrive from the manufacturer. This is known as “parts robbing” in the RV industry.
Lot rot - missing trim
Trim piece is missing. Facebook photo

Now, many of you may be thinking you want nothing to do with a new RV with lot rot, but…

Lot rot could be your golden ticket to huge savings

Here’s why: Lot rot is costing an RV dealer money, often lots of it! Once lot rot begins to set in, an RV dealer now must start investing resources in the unit. That means changing out components that are showing signs of age, the labor required to change the components and, most of all, flooring curtailments. This equates to using parts that are often in short supply that could be sold to a retail customer at a profit and RV mechanics’ time that could be billed out to a retail customer at $150 or more per hour. Since RV manufacturers won’t cover lot rot under warranty, the RV dealer is basically losing twice: once on the cost of the component and the hourly cost of the mechanic, and again on the profit they would have made on the part and retail rate of the labor rate.

Since a unit with lot rot isn’t selling, it also takes up valuable space on the sales lot that could be used to park a more popular unit that would sell faster with a better profit margin. Then there is the financial side of the equation, which is paying a monthly charge to floor the units (paying interest only on the invoice price of the unit) to a financial institution, and the dreaded curtailment. A curtailment is a monthly principal payment the financial institutions require after the RV has sat on a dealers lot long enough to acquire lot rot. (See my previous article on flooring and curtailments here.)

What is “spiffing” at a dealership?

Another hit to the RV dealer’s pocketbook involves the practice known as “spiffing”. Once an RV has been on the lot long enough to develop lot rot, the sales staff lose interest in showing the RV to customers. This happens for two reasons: First they don’t want to waste their time showing the unit to customers when they have done so numerous times before without a sale. Second, they know they will have to significantly discount the unit to interest someone enough to purchase a unit with lot rot.

A discounted unit means less commission for them, so they steer potential customers to an RV more likely to result in a sale with a higher commission. To overcome these two items and entice the sales staff to show the unit with lot rot, the dealership offers a “spiff” to the salesperson that sells the unit. The spiff is typically a predetermined amount of money (say, $1,000) that the salesperson will receive in addition to their sales commission.

RV dealers are ready to deal on any aged unit with lot rot

Trust me as a former RV dealership owner. I would do just about anything to sell an aged unit with lot rot to get it off my sales lot. I knew that continuing to let it sit on the lot would just cost me more money. In several cases, I sold units near invoice, replaced any components the customer requested that were displaying lot rot, shampooed the carpets, included an extended warranty policy and more just to make the unit go away. Basically, whatever the customer requested they received with a smile and a thank you. In today’s soft RV market, you, too, can be in the driver’s seat naming your terms and conditions when it comes to units displaying lot rot.

It’s not that lot rot units are bad RVs, but that there are one or more features that don’t resonate with average buyers. It could be an unpopular floorplan, “ugly” upholstery, lack of features or some other quirk that has kept it from selling. However, it could be the perfect floorplan to meet your needs and you might find the upholstery reminiscent of your grandma’s flowered vinyl-covered couch and just have to have it!

How do you know how long the unit has been on a dealer’s lot?

  • Date of manufacture: The date the RV was manufactured is listed on a tag provided by the manufacturer. On towable RVs, it will typically be located on the lower front driver’s side of the RV. On motorized RVs, it is often located on the inside of an overhead cabinet door in the kitchen.
  • Lot rot: Showing signs of lot rot as listed above.
  • Tires: The date of manufacture on the tires can offer clues as to the age of the RV.
  • Winterized: In northern climates, the RV will often display a tag that the plumbing system was winterized prior to leaving the factory. This indicates the RV was built and shipped in the winter. If you find a new RV on a dealer’s lot in August still bearing the tag that it has been winterized, you can safely assume it has been on the dealer’s lot a while.

Hopefully this tutorial on lot rot has taught you some useful information on how the sales of older units on a dealer’s lot work, as well as provided insight on how you might use this to your advantage when buying a new RV.

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10 Comments

Gil
2 years ago

How is the flooring which is inside showing wear? If there are signs of water intrusion for the time sitting at the lot, imagine the horror for the buyer once purchased. The bottom line is the list of things that are listed certainly would not be a “golden ticket to savings”.

Mikal
2 years ago
Reply to  Gil

I thought the list sounded a lot like a “normal” new RV nowadays! 🙂

Jesse Crouse
2 years ago
Reply to  Mikal

Amen.

Jesse Crouse
2 years ago

After you get the “lot rot price” you get the “lot rot warranty and service”- NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim charters
2 years ago

I found repair of mouse damage to a water pipe in my motorhome that I bought new.

Bob Walter
2 years ago

Ha! “nearly-perfect condition” as the day it arrived at the dealers lot? LMAO! 🤣
I certainly hope not. @@

Last edited 2 years ago by Bob Walter
Bill
2 years ago

Several of those items indicate poor quality. They will happen and will continue to happen after you buy it, even if your unit is “nearly perfect when just delivered”. If you see a unit with that kind of “lot rot”, maybe you should consider a different manufacturer.

Sally Harnish
2 years ago

Remember years ago, when we were in our preliminary looking for a fulltime rig, we were going by Columbia, Missouri on I-70 and saw a Travel Supreme sitting on a dealer’s lot. Got off the next exit and came back. Eased along the fence to avoid immediate contact with a land shark. First thing I looked at was the birth mark, only two years old. By then here comes a shark apologizing for missing us. I’ll get the keys if you want to look in it. Sure. While he was gone, I noticed the slide seals were starting separate from the sides and the slides were in the body crooked among some other stuff. Back comes the shark with the keys. Stepped inside, it had absolutely the ugliest interior I ever saw.

Sally Harnish
2 years ago

Told the salesman there was a lot of lot rot. Looked at me with a grin asked what i noticed. Told him about the slide seals and the out of alignment slides and I told him that came from yard jockeys moving the trailer around with a forklift and not rolling in the slides. I also mentioned the ugly interior. Then he sort of opened up that it was originally delivered to their Springfield, Missouri lot. Was brought to Columbia some months prior to us looking at it. He did mention that the dealership would probably end up wholesaling the unit.

Neal Davis
2 years ago

Thank you, Dave! 🙂 Great article, explanations, and examples! We benefitted greatly from this circumstance when we bought RV #1. It had been in Texas at two different dealers (second one bought out first one) for about 14 months. We got 40% off MSRP. The manufacturer sent us a new “duster,” full-width mudguard with the make cut into it because the original one had “disappeared,” probably “reappearing” on another unit of the same make. None of the other problems you mentioned were apparent (or later discovered), but we did put new tires on it at 5 years because of the time sitting in Texas. As you say, great deals can be gotten if one is motivated to haggle. Safe travels! 🙂