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Stephen F Willey
2 years ago

Yes, gas refrigerators can be a problem levelling, and a fire hazard. But residential refrigerators use a huge amount of power and have heated gasgets etc. One solution I found is the all-electric refrigerators with a 12 volt Danfoss compressor. These use very little power and I have one in my house over 20 years old still working. NovaKool company in Canada makes these to direct replace standard size Dometic and Norcold gas units. One RV maker, ProVan Tiger Industries make this refrigerator standard in their units. But they can be purchased as exact replacement fit in any RV with small to midsize, one or 2 door gas units.

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Mike Sokol (@mike)
2 years ago

I’ve also been studying Danfoss compressor refrigerators which operate on 12-Volts DC directly and don’t require an inverter. Plus this is a “swing” compressor, not a conventional rotary/piston compressor, so it doesn’t have a big peak startup current like a standard compressor with a starter capacitor. Another technology I’m studying at are the Vitrifrigo residential-style refrigerators I saw at the Hershey show last week. These are drop in replacements for many standard propane/electric RV units, but they use a very efficient 12-volt DC compressor. They’ll send me one to evaluate if I ask, so that could be a great topic for me to cover in 2019 for RVelectricity. So much technology, so little time…

Russ Saputo
2 years ago

Helpful fix for stripped screws in wood: put superglue on a toothpick push it in screw hole and cut toothpick off with sharp serrated knife and tap into hole til flush. When dried reinstall screw.

Karin S.
2 years ago

I have a question for Mike….

I read this on the RV forum I am a member of: “I talked to support at Progressive Industries. His suggestion is to use the 50A outlet whenever possible. The thinking is that often the pedestals are corroded which causes high resistance and heat if drawing high loads. The 50A outlet has heavier wire bigger contact area on blades so in theory less heat. Its worth a try – use the 50A outlet with your own adapter. ”

I wondered what your thoughts are on this Mike. The main topic was about a member’s 30A plugin on his cord melting due to a loose connection at the pedestal.

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Mike Sokol (@mike)
2 years ago
Reply to  Karin S.

That’s actually a reasonable idea which I’ve discussed at a few of my seminars. If the 30-amp outlet on the pedestal is beat up, then far better to use a 50-to-30 amp dog-bone adapter that matches your RV’s TT-30 cordset. It should be safe from overload since there’s a 30-amp master circuit breaker in your RV’s circuit panel. While this is technically a code violation (sort-of/kind-of) I don’t think any electrical inspector would bat an eye at it… Just be sure to keep your own cordset and RV twist-lock connector (if you have one) clean and free of oxidation.

Peter Griffin
2 years ago

Chuck, have you seen this video?

https://youtu.be/P51N8vK7hMU

Gary
2 years ago

I hardly see where Chuck is whining. Sure there’s consumers that spend wantonly, but there’s another group in the middle that are making decisions because they don’t know any better. What’s being done here is education for those folks to take a step back before they sign that loan application at the RV show.

Alaska Traveler
2 years ago

Congratulate yourself and pat yourself on the back if fast talking salesmen with 20 year low payments don’t affect you. There are probably many of us who are wise and capable of withstanding the pressure. Obviously there are many who do not have this ability. Proven with the amount of people that purchase some type of time-share after sitting in a 2 or 3 hour marathon salespitch. Easy to blame the victim. These salesmen go to school to do what they do. They are predators.

rick
2 years ago

The timeshare industry is a great example. I’m a grizzly old timeshare veteran and still fell for one. Luckly we were able to get out of it. Yes predators is a good description.

Pat
2 years ago

What is the link for the “tee shirt men and women will want”? Please email me the info if you can to pat_s86@yahoo.com. thanks

Mike Van Dyke
2 years ago

I was hoping that there could be a review on satellite TVs

Thanks
Mike

Tony
2 years ago

To do with the bad motorhomes or camper’s that are being made today yes they are even Tiffin they have made so many changes on how they take care of the customer something I would have never dreamed Tiffin would do but now if you’re unit is Ten years old you can’t go to Tiffin and get any work done on that unit. Yes I see why when you buy a new one you will be spending time at the service center no more pride in the work force plus trying to build so many

Leo Suarez
2 years ago

Chuck, it would be great if next year you can actually provide us with a recap of what shown at the Hershey show, not just winning about financing terms and that everything is electric now. Maybe you should get one of your staffers to actually walk the show and tell us what new, what cool, new innovations, what’s not cool… you know, just a little on what was actually shown at the show, beyond “Camping World is bad” stuff.

George
2 years ago

HI Chuck
I believe your response to Vance is not applicable to his argument. If you want to challenge Camping Worlds value to the RV world, I would agree with you that they are not the best place to take your RV for service or buying. But Vance is discussing the individual buyers personal responsibility. The same buyer who would walk in to Camping World and buy a RV he/she can not afford, absent creative financing, is the same person who max’s out their credit cards, buys $70,000 pickups …. all on a Toyota Camry income.
I know you have an issue with Marcus and perhaps rightfully so, but 20 year loans are the responsibility of the buyer.
Sorry Chuck, but lack of personal responsibility is nothing new. As long as there are people who can not control their spending habits, there will be businesses like Camping World there to accommodate them. Been to a used car lot lately?

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 years ago
Reply to  George

Yeah, I get it George. But if I can cause some people to consider that maybe financing a depreciating asset for 20 years is not a good idea, then mission accomplished. I’m not going to shut up about it. Wait until the next recession and see how many people start screaming because they are so upside down on a loan they cannot afford to pay it off, just like the people did during the last recession when they walked away from their homes because they could no longer afford the mortgage payments.

Alan Goldberg
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

We have The government (senator Barney Frank) for that, by forcing banks to make loans to people who don’t qualify.
The only good that will come out of the coming RV financing debacle is there will be a lot of used and new RV’s at a great price for those who are patient. As there were great home buying opportunities. during the last recession.

Vic
2 years ago
Reply to  Alan Goldberg

There you go, blame a politician and let the public off the hook from taking any responsibility.

Pat
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

Exactly!! We bought a used truck and an older TT, because we could afford them!! Why finance junk that won’t last to the end of the financing? Our 94 Mallard will outlast these new TTs made today.

Dave
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

Chuck, nail on the head. Back around 2000 we were looking to refinance our home to consolidate some loans and almost did not get the amount requested as we did not want near 100% of value but were sneered on because the banks wanted us to accept 125%. Home is now payed for but could have been homeless if we fell for that sales pitch.

Ross Reed
2 years ago

Just a comment about the 20 year loans. I agree with what you’re saying about them, 20 year loan and the RV is shot by about 10-15 years. The thing is this has been the norm going back to at least the late 80’s. I was warning people in our Jeep club about this 25-30 years ago. Of course it’s got a lot worse with soaring costs to purchase. Great newsletter as usuall

Mike
2 years ago

While I applaud you for standing up for Joe Consumer, they should be responsible for their decisions. It’s not predatory lending, it’s reacting to the market desires. Car loans go up to 7 years now. Homes in Hawaii you can finance for 50 years. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out one will be underwater for a number of years right off the bat.

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Absolutely, consumers should be responsible for their decisions. But consumers are also easily suckered into long-term financing they should never accept. What we hope for at RV Travel with all our “ranting” is to raise awareness about the buying process, and to open the eyes of consumers to be more careful with their purchases despite being all starry eyed over living the dream, with no bumpy roads ahead.

Debra
2 years ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

I agree that there has to be personal accountability on the part of consumers. I would guess that a large percentage of consumers make purchases of vehicles, RVs, and even homes based primarily on the monthly payment. I would also guess many know better but their desire to have the item overrides good judgment in our instant gratification culture.

I agree with your criticism of Camping World’s practices as unethical and predatory also. I think that aspect of your editorial over shadows the educational aspect. Your comment that you receive emails frequently from folks who are under water and have to sell and what are they supposed to do now. Your response seems to lay all the responsibility at the feet of Camping World. Trying to educate people is a worthy goal, but perhaps some articles that are separate from the vilification of Camping World would be good.

Booneyrat
2 years ago

Keep up the good work,Chuck,especially about exposing crooks like Camping World.Most of us enjoy your newsletter regardless of the few who do not.

Kevin Lohrey
2 years ago

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Robbie
2 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Lohrey

I’m having the exact same problem.

Dr4Film ----- Richard
2 years ago

With all due respect, Chuck,I disagree with your statement that if the RV has an electric only fridge you need a shore hookup all the time. I removed the NotSoCold (aka Norcold) fire death trap RV fridge in 2012 and installed a Samsung residential. It hasn’t changed the way we camp, boondock or stay at state and national parks for one second. My waste tanks are the limiting factor of how long I can go without having access to a dump and fresh water. The fridge gets it power from an Inverter and house batteries or whenever we run the generator. Normally that’s a few hours a day. I totally get the fact that a normal RV fridge can run on propane but it still needs 12 VDC batteries to power the control boards. Those batteries will need to be charged every so often too. So there is no “free lunch” with any type of fridge.

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 years ago

Richard, a person can go weeks with an RV fridge running on propane. It’s far more challenging for an RV with a residential fridge to do the same. People can find workarounds, yes, but there is no question that an RVer with a combination electric/propane refrigerator is better suited to long term living in an emergency when shore power may not be available. The Norcold refrigerators with problems were recalled. I have personally owned RV refrigerators for 35 years with no issues. Yes, others have had problems, but it’s a tiny, tiny segment of the market.

John T
2 years ago

Yes, there is a free lunch. I’m a full-timer, and I charge my batteries with solar power. If I had a residential fridge, I would have to run my generator for hours every day like you.

Vance
2 years ago

You constantly blame Camping World for the 20 year loans and “forcing” other retailers to follow suit if they want to sell. The RV dealers in Canada also push 20 year loans, Camping World isn’t behind this trend consumers are. Consumers buy cars and trucks on 84 and 96 month loans, houses on 40 and 50 year mortgages and RVs on 20 year loans. They are not thinking about the value of the product in the years to come, they want what they want and they want it now, at a monthly payment that fits their budget. A friend of mine who is a car salesman tells me he doesn’t need to sell cars he has to be able to find the financing to fit the buyer. I am not defending Camping World or anyone providing this loans, I am just saying they are providing what the consumer wants, a low payment so they can purchase something else on payments as well.
I enjoy reading the weekly newsletter as well as the daily tips, I find them informative and helpful, however, I feel on this subject you should concentrate more on the issue and less on blaming one retailer.

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 years ago
Reply to  Vance

Vance, if you want to know why we discuss Camping World so often, just visit here: https://camping-world.pissedconsumer.com/review.html