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Campground crowding. One reader thinks we don’t need more RV parks…

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More people than ever are taking up RVing. These newbies have determined that RVing is the safest way to travel in our pandemic times. The result is campground crowding like never before. In this weekly blog, RV Travel readers discuss their experiences. Maybe we can make some sense of this and find ways to work around the problem.

Here are a few observations from our readers.

A WAY AROUND THE SYSTEM…

Darn technology! Always messing things up! Reader Bill Forbes brings up an interesting point. Maybe everyone should try this…

He writes, “Most public campgrounds use ReserveAmerica or another similar program. The default seems to be that you must choose a specific site in order to make a reservation. To make this as simple to explain as possible, suppose you have 2 sites in a campground. Tom doesn’t care which site he gets, so he makes a reservation for Site 1 for May 1 through 5. Dick is a little more discriminating, he looks at both sites and sees there is no difference, but makes a reservation for Site 2 for May 6 through 10. Now Harry wants to come on May 3 and stay through May 8, but the system tells him no sites are available. The computer isn’t smart enough to tell him that sites are actually available, but he might have to move on the 5th (or get Tom or Dick to move). If Harry knows how to work the system, he can figure it out, but many people don’t know and not all of the staff does either. The whole point of the system is that the park doesn’t need to pay someone on-site to manage reservations. The result is that sites stay empty because the program is less flexible than a well-motivated human in assigning sites.”

BACKROADS = MORE CAMPGROUND AVAILABILITY?

What if newbie RVers don’t know about the backroads? What if modern GPS devices only direct those who don’t know any better on the major highways and interstates? Do those of us who know the backroads of America have a better chance of reserving a campsite off one of those lesser-known roads? Or does it not matter? What do you think about this? Here’s what reader Wayne Pierce had to say:

“We left Clarkston, WA, heading to the Phoenix area. We are full-timers so we gave ourselves a month for the trip. We find leaving the Interstate system and taking U.S. routes and state highways provides us more RV park options. Yes, it’s slower but we can see more of the country. And we can see the historical markers. They will tell you what the locals think is important.
We also set ourselves a quest. Last summer it was to find the best pie on Route 66 (Miz Zip’s in Flagstaff was our winner). This year, it’s the best craft beer. The jury is still out as we haven’t found too many bad ones. But the quest continues.”

ONE, TWO… WELL, TWO STRIKES YOU’RE OUT

Bruce Pomazal wrote in with an interesting idea. What if you were penalized for cancelling multiple reservations throughout the year? Here are his thoughts: “It’s getting tougher to find spaces in the NW/Oregon and not due to COVID. I’ve heard of many people who reserve several campgrounds throughout the year and then cancel the ones they don’t want as the time approaches. In Oregon, you can reserve 9 months in advance and it becomes frustrating when you’re trying to book a spot. The first-come campsites virtually all taken early in the week so we’re not going to risk trying to get one even on a Wednesday or Thursday night. I believe that most campsites should be reservable (not 100% but most) and that you’re only allowed 2 cancellations annually and after that, you lose your reserve payment. This might actually help with the fully reserved parks and no available sites.” What do you think about this?


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“THE FUN OF ROAD TRIPPING WITH AN RV IS GONE!”

In previous installments of this feature, many readers have mentioned that if things don’t change, they’ll stop RVing. Here’s another one of those people. Robin Connell says, “Have been on the road for three weeks from NW Missouri. Headed to Death Valley.

“Enormous crowds In Yellowstone and Grand Teton. Totally packed. Frazzled overworked Park Rangers and staff. Lots of illegal overnighting in pull outside, parking areas etc.

“Very full campgrounds, even in Forest Service or BLM boondocking spots in Eastern Montana and Flaming Gorge area. We have been forced to change route several times, even though more than half of our sites had been reserved 4-6 months in advance.

“Will this change our camping style? You bet it will. Three ways – replace our 30′ travel trailer with a much more nimble truck camper. Head to Alaska next year if we can get through the borders. Hopefully, get away from much of the crowd, and reserve a much bigger percentage of our sites.

“Last choice is to sell our RV and stay home. Sure don’t want to repeat this year’s experience. The FUN of road tripping with an RV is gone!”

“CHUCK, YOU’RE WRONG!” HERE’S ANOTHER OPINION…

Reader Dick Tobey has a different opinion. Maybe he’s right… Here’s what he thinks: “Chuck is incorrect about the need for more RV parks. Imagine 2 years from now with no COVID and gas prices up a $1 per gallon or more. RV use will dwindle as people no longer work or go to school remotely, and other travel options are attractive, like flying or cruising. Those with new RV parks could likely go bankrupt.

Read last week’s column on Crowded Campgrounds.

Some questions for you:

• Are you finding more and more campgrounds booked up? Or are you having no problem finding places to stay?

• If campgrounds continue to be crowded and RVing continues to become more popular, will it affect how or when you RV?

• Do you have any tips or secrets you’d like to share about finding campgrounds that aren’t as crowded?

Please use the form below to answer one or more of these questions, or tell us what you’ve experienced with campground crowding in general.

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World’s lightest homebuilt trailer easily towed by a Prius!

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Check this out! This is the world’s lightest homemade hard-topped trailer. At only 450 lbs, this cute little trailer can be towed by a Prius! Amazing!

The family built this trailer with a Prius in mind, saying, “The idea came from a Prius turned backwards… So that’s where the design came from.”

The trailer’s hard shell is made from Coroplast, a honeycomb-like material, and fiberglass cloth. The trailer took several months to build and has a small kitchen area, a portable toilet and a queen-sized bed. The trailer is also equipped with a solar fan, to keep the inside air flowing.

Click to watch the video below. Would you take this camping?


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Meet your fellow RVtravel.com readers, October 17, 2020

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We asked RVtravel.com readers to tell us about themselves. Here are a few responses.


Hi from Nancy & Einar Hansen. Nancy and I live in Quincy, MA, and we have been camping ever since before we were married 24 years ago. I have been camping ever since the age of 4 and have done many types of camping along the way, from backpacking to now RVing. And I have even spent almost a year camping in a Volkswagen camper in 21 countries when I was only eight years old in 1968 with my parents and sister.
We love camping with our two large dogs – Miles, our retired Greyhound, and our Labrador mix, Angus. Both are rescues and part of our family. We spend most of our summer at our seasonal campsite, but we do spend a week to 10 days in Boothbay, Maine, camping. Unfortunately, not this year! We enjoy meeting new people when camping while walking the dogs most of the time. I am a retired chef and enjoy cooking outdoors with some of the great views from some of the places we have camped at. I look forward to reading more about some of you out there!


From Allen Ritcey. I’m a retired Aerospace Engineer as of May 2017. After selling my home and doing a bit of traveling, I moved into a condo a few blocks from the beach in Florida. After 6 months of that, I found waiting for something to happen of interest then realized this isn’t going to work. I bought a new teardrop TT, got rid of most everything by way of Goodwill and local dump when I became aware of how much useless stuff I have been lugging around for years. So now I am a full-time RVer and a minimalist going on 2 years. Best decision I could have made. Enjoying the road less traveled and visiting old friends and relatives. I’ll be signing up for year 3 here shortly.


From Jack, Juanita and Levi Walbring. My wife and I bought a 2017 Salem 195BH in November of 2016 and found that it was just too small as we almost always have some of our grandkids with us. In 2018, we traded it in for a used 2017 Salem 27RLSS and have really enjoyed going camping in it. I am now retired at 67 while the wife still works for the school district. She loves being around all the kids.
When this Covid crap hit earlier this year we started going camping to get away from being locked up in our apartment. We usually have been going every other weekend with a couple of trips for up to 5 days. Our daughter is getting married in early October so for a wedding present, we bought them a used pop-up in very good condition before the prices went out of sight. They also love to go with us and the Camping Shenanigans group that we go with a lot. They are a fun group that we got to know several years ago while we were all involved in dirt racing. We would love to go full time in the future if the finances allow us to do it.


Brandon and Sherry, we are from KY. I have been a camper all my life. I remember tent camping in the GSM, then we finally upgraded to an RV. After about a year of marriage, I finally talked Sherry into letting me buy a pop-up. She was hooked. We have had 6 RVs in 21 yrs. I am a firefighter and gives us plenty of time to explore. Our favorite trip each year is Campgrounds at Fort Wilderness at Disney.


From Sandy McPhail. Hubby Kent and I have been full time for 4 years now. We had always planned to do this then 4 years ago an opportunity came to sell our business so we decided not to wait and just jumped in without ever looking back. We fish in bass tournaments so during tournament season we focus on that. For the rest of the year, we travel. We like to spend at least a month in one spot to get to know it real well.


From Bob Lambert. My father had an RV dealership, so I’ve been traveling this way since the mid 1960s. Took some time off for college and the US Army, but otherwise, travel has been a way of life. First cross-country was 1962, and seven more since, taking my children and many nieces and nephews along the way. At 70 now I’ve slowed slightly, but still making plans. I live at the beach with RV in western NC mountains, so I feel very blessed.


From Cal and Vivian Wing. When we were married in ‘98 I was an RVer turned backpacker. My new bride was born with balance issues so hanging 35-40 pounds on her back and hiking uneven trails wasn’t ever a consideration. She “loved” to camp in a tent, as long as it wasn’t too hot or too cold or it didn’t rain too much – you get the picture. She had never been RVing and the closest she had been to an RV was the fifth wheel that her brother lived in at a mobile home park. So I took her to RV shows and in 2005 I bought an older 30’ travel trailer and she loved it. We bought a fifth wheel last year that we will start full-timing with in January.
Vivian will retire at the end of this year after a 46-year career in nursing. I retired after 45 years in forestry. We have 4 children, 2 in Kansas and 2 in Texas, and 7 grandchildren from 1-21. We plan on keeping our house in Wichita and coming back here when we get too old to travel.
Years ago we hung a 5’X6’ map of the US, Mexico and Canada on the wall of our home office. I marked it with a grid and the points of interest that we want to see. There’s a spot on one of the walls in the RV for that map. We’re not sure how much we’ll get done but it will be fun to find out. The picture is from an October camp last fall at Toronto State Lake. The Jack Russell terrier on my arm is Skipper. She’s been the Skipper in charge of operations in our home for 15 years, she has 2 new fur brothers that will help keep us on our toes.


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Is Lazydays RV getting too big for its britches?

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mailbox, lettersDear editor:
We really look forward to your stories and updates every day. We saw in our current issue of RV Living magazine that Lazydays RV is buying up many small independent RV dealers across the country. Are they becoming the new Camping World with the lessening quality of reputable, dependable, non-high-pressure sales and service dealers? Thanks for all you and your staff do for everyone. —Brian and Robynn Jasper

Dear Brian and Robynn,
Yes, we have watched Lazydays as it has gradually expanded from its once single dealership near Tampa, Florida. Some other regional dealers like Campers Inn in the East are also acquiring other dealerships and adding them to their own networks.

Some of this expansion, we believe, is to stay competitive with Camping World, which has aggressively swallowed up dealers across the country and is far from finished with its current 160 locations. Camping World’s reputation for its sales and service is far from stellar. So, frankly, we think Lazydays’ expansion and others are probably overall a good thing and will hopefully keep Camping World from dominating the market.

Yes, we’re sorry to see the small dealerships go. We do believe, though, that those that offer great sales and customer service can still prosper even with the competition from the chain-dealerships.

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Reader letter: I want to learn about how to build a campground

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Dear editor,
A topic I would be interested in learning more about is building NEW campgrounds. Almost daily someone on the RV forums posts that they want to build a new privately owned campground. They usually ask what amenities people are looking for.

My question is how FEASIBLE is it for ordinary people to accomplish? Every time I read any news about a proposed campground the local authorities and citizens act like campgrounds are worse than a nuclear waste dump next door! I’ve read where traffic abatement studies and all kinds of environmental concerns are heaped on the prospective owners. Usually there is no follow up, telling if the campground was approved, so the assumption is the hopeful owners are discouraged and blocked from building.

Additionally I feel RV manufacturers should be partnering with wishful private owners by providing expertise and counseling, planning engineers, zoning lawyers, etc., to help them navigate the process of building new campsites.

I feel the manufacturers should be invested in creating spots for their products to be used. They could also assist state and local public entities in obtaining land and developing new public camping spaces.

A future article for you?

Thanks again for sharing your experiences and knowledge. — Kathleen Squires

Dear Kathleen,
We agree that this is a topic that needs to be better addressed. First, though, be sure you are reading our Saturday newsletter, where Machelle James has been writing a regular column “Building an RV Park” about the trials and tribulations of building a campground from scratch. Her latest column is in last week’s issue, and there’s a link at the bottom of each of her articles to her previous posts.

Also, I would suggest you visit Woodall’s Campground Management and sign up for its daily newsletter. This is a trade publication for the camping accommodations industry. Over time, you will gain some insights into what it takes to start and then run a campground or RV park.

I can tell you this, though: It’s not a cheap process to build an RV park. On average, it costs about $15,000 to $20,000 per full-hookup site to build a park from scratch and that does not include land.

Heaven knows, there is a great demand for new parks, though.

Have you already decided which presidential candidate to vote for?

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Have you already make up your mind who will get your vote for President? Will it be Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Or will it be a candidate from another party?

We know from last week’s survey that 42 percent of you have already voted, so those folks obviously already made up their minds.

But what about you? Do you already know which candidate it will be? Or are you still undecided?

Sad to say, we have closed this poll to comments to help protect the sanity of open-minded readers who like to believe that people with differing opinions can live together in harmony in our democratic society.

POLL IS NOW CLOSED. MORE THAN 4,800 READERS RESPONDED.


Directory of RV parks with storm shelters
In case you’re on the road with your RV and the weather report is showing a tornado headed your way, have this list handy.

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Casino Camping: There are two types of casino “camping,” and more reader favorites

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Last week many of you commented on the rising costs of casino camping in casino RV parks. Ho-Chunk Casino in Baraboo, WI, is a popular park among many commenters, including Jeff E., who this week followed up with, “We’ve stayed at Ho-Chunk Casino and they took a ho-chunk of our money!” Ha!

This week, Jim O’Briant from OvernightRVParking.com offers some useful information highlighting the difference between camping at a casino’s RV park and parking at a casino. Jim says, “There are two different kinds of ‘casino camping.’ One is actually camping, in a casino-owned RV Park, with hookups and other amenities. The other is not ‘camping,’ but rather ‘overnight RV parking’ in a casino parking lot, without hookups, similar to the way RVers often park (NOT camp) overnight at retail stores, restaurants, truck stops, rest areas, and the like. Some casinos offer one, some offer both, some offer neither, and some offer a sort of “hybrid” – free parking with an electrical hookup.”

Jim goes on to say, “Many casinos require that you join their ‘players club’ in order to stay there. This is usually free, and often comes with some perks, such as meal discounts, free slot play, etc. Some require that you must earn ‘points’ on your card which you can redeem for free parking; otherwise you cannot stay there.”

Jim also provided some helpful tips when staying in a casino parking lot:

“1. Get permission from the casino.
2. Park where they tell you to park, without obstructing traffic lanes.
3. Use slideouts only if they extend over an area with no pedestrian or vehicular traffic.
4. Use levelers only with protective “jack pads” to protect the parking lot surface.
5. (Usually) No awnings, no lawn furniture or BBQ grills or anything else set outside your RV.
6. Dispose of all trash properly and never leave any behind.
7. NEVER empty gray or black water tanks anywhere other than an RV dump station.

“Most casinos have a ‘maximum length of stay,’ whether you’re in a casino RV Park or ‘blacktop boondocking’ in the parking lot. A few say that you may stay as long as you like as long as you’re gaming – they know that the odds are in their favor.”

Now, let’s hear some readers’ favorites…

Several readers have mentioned WinStar World Casino and Resort in Thackerville, Oklahoma. WinStar has an RV park and also allows overnight stopping in their parking lot. The best of both worlds!

Bill S. wrote: “If the RV campground is owned by the casino like WinStar Casino in Oklahoma (on I-35 just across the Texas border after Denton) they will give you a free night if you register for free for their player’s club. WinStar is a full hookups with hotel quality showers, laundry and pool. Pay nights are about $40 during the week. If you happen to be a gambler, you can get your entire week comp. If you just want a free no-hookup overnight stay, just find a spot in their huge parking lot.”

Rosy D. also mentioned WinStar: “WinStar Casino in OK has a great RV campground. They offer full hookups, shuttle service from your site, and a nice pool. Large, nice casino also offers good concerts. Between Oklahoma City and Denton, TX, on I-35 and close to Arbuckle Mountains.“

Editors note: WinStar World Casino and Resort is Oklahoma’s largest casino resort with eight city-themed gaming plazas. The RV park has 152 full-hookup sites and a shuttle. They have an overnight parking lot too. Free senior discounts available at the buffet. 

Reader PJN enjoys these spots: “Dakotah Meadows RV Park, SW of Minneapolis, MN, is a very convenient location to the Mall of America, Valleyfair amusement park and the Minneapolis area. Treasure Island Resort & Casino is SE of Saint Paul, MN, in Red Wing, MN, on the Mississippi River, great for boaters but 40 miles from the Mall of America.”

Editors note: Dakotah Meadows RV Park is at Mystic Lake Casino in Prior Lake, just southwest of the Twin Cities, and is one of the few campgrounds in Minnesota that is open all year. Our first night camping after selling the house and going full-time was at Dakotah Meadows. It was 10 degrees below zero! Very glad they had a free car starting service at the casino. Neither car nor motorhome would start. It was so cold, the inside of the windshield had a 1/4-inch-thick coat of ice. Headed south immediately!

Stopping at a casino, or are you a casino camping newbie?

American Casino Guide provides not only information on casinos, it has a gambling primer on slots, video poker, blackjack, craps and other popular casino games and RV, hotel, restaurant information.

Casino Camping Guide to RV-Friendly Casinos is also a great guide and provides a lot of information particularly for RVers.

Join our Facebook Group Casino Camping for more casino information. Post your favorite spots too.

Read last week’s Casino Camping here.

Tell us about casinos you like that other RVers might like. If you have any tips or secrets about casino “camping,” tell us those too, please!

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PBS spotlights RV work campers in excellent report

The PBS NewsHour, Public Television’s evening news program, recently profiled the growing movement commonly called work camping. Thousands upon thousands of RVers — the number is almost certainly in the six-figure range — travel with their RV from place to place to work. For some, it’s simply to keep busy. For others it’s essential income. Most are baby boomer age.

Amazon is perhaps the best known employer of work campers — relying heavily on them in its warehouses during the holiday season — but there are plenty more, as you will see in the video below. In this excellent report, you’ll meet some work campers, who explain why they work, the jobs they take and what they are paid.

The pandemic has spurred a surge in RVing due to the need for social distancing and outdoor activity, and work camping jobs don’t appear to be suffering.

But it’s not all fun, the news segment points out. PBS NewsHour correspondent Paul Solman filed this excellent report.

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Amazing Instant Pot French Onion Soup

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By Nanci Dixon
This Instant Pot® French Onion Soup is absolutely amazing. My sister just bought a farm and her first harvest included an abundance of onions, fresh from the field! Not only that, but she delivered. I knew there was no way to store all those onions in the RV along with the amazing zucchini and squash she brought us, so I made this French Onion Soup. The Crostini (toast) on top is sooooo good I could (and did) eat it all by itself! I used the convection oven for the toast, but an RV oven could be used too. You could even just microwave the toast if you don’t have either.  

Ingredients

• 2 Tbsp oil (I used olive oil)
• 4 – 4 1/2 cups any type onions, sliced in 1/4-inch slices
• 1 clove, or 1 tsp garlic, minced
• 2 bay leaves
• 1/2 tsp dried thyme leaves
• 2 Tbsp butter
• 3/4 cup red wine
• 4 cups beef stock, homemade, canned or bullion (I used Better Than Bullion brand)
• 1 tsp Worcestershire sauce
• 2 Tbsp brown sugar
• 1/4 tsp pepper

Crostini:
• Cooking spray
• 8-10 slices French baguette, cut into 1-inch slices
• 1/2 cup Gruyere cheese, shredded (I found it in the deli section)
• 1/4 cup Swiss cheese, shredded, or Parmesan cheese, shredded or grated (I like Parmesan better than Swiss so I used that)

Directions:

1. Set Instant Pot to sauté.
2. Add oil, onions and sauté until onions start to caramelize and turn brown.
3. Stir often to prevent burning.
4. Add garlic, thyme, bay leaves and butter.
5. Sauté an additional two minutes, stirring frequently.
6. Add red wine and deglaze Instant Pot by stirring and scraping the bottom of the pot.
7. Turn Instant Pot off.
8. Add beef stock, Worcestershire sauce, brown sugar and pepper and stir.
9. Set Instant Pot to manual high for 20 minutes.
10. Release naturally.

Crostini:
While the soup is cooking, make Crostini in convection or RV oven (recommended)
1. Preheat oven to broil or 450 degrees.
2. Slice bread 1” thick.
3. Spray baking sheet or pizza pan with cooking spray.
4. Sprinkle cheeses on bread.
5. Bake just until cheese melts and browns slightly.

Instant Pot French Onion Soup

If no oven is available the Crostini can be microwaved on a microwave-safe plate until cheese melts (it just won’t be as crunchy).

Serve soup in bowls topped with Crostini. As with almost all soups, it is even better the next day!

Here is another of my favorite Instant Pot soups: Sweet Potato Coconut Soup

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What’s that smell? Pot smoke an increasing RV traveler issue

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By James Raia
RV travelers who rent cars or trucks may have increasingly noticed an unusual odor in their vehicles – pot smoke. They could also be providing the odor with their own smoking preferences.

Rental agencies around the country have reported an increase in the pot smoke smell in their fleets. Since marijuana is legal or decriminalized and allowed for medicinal purposes in all but eight states, many drivers believe it’s OK to smoke it in rental vehicles. It’s not.

A new warning sticker on rental vehicles prohibiting smoking pot.
A new warning sticker on rental vehicles prohibiting smoking pot.

Rental agency representatives are increasingly having to explain the policy prohibiting smoking in rental vehicles includes tobacco, vaping and pot. The smell of pot is particularly difficult to eradicate.

Many dealers require customers to sign a contract agreeing to not smoke or vape in a loaner car or face a $150 to $250 cleaning fee. Reminders on the dashboards on rental vehicles have become prominent.

The marijuana smell in vehicles has also affected dealerships offering loaner vehicles. Customers often return cars and trucks with vaping and pot odor. Mechanics who work on vehicles sometimes have difficulty entering them because the smell is too strong.

Nasty smells in vehicles have also prompted more work for The Odor Doctor, a Houston-based car detailing company. It specializes in removing putrid odors from cars and trucks. The company also has mobile services in California, Florida, Atlanta, Nevada, and Illinois.

Frank Simmons, CEO of The Odor Doctors, told The Detroit Free Press more than half of the calls his company receives are to remove the smell of smoke from cigarettes, marijuana or vaping.

“If you smoke marijuana, cigarettes or vape, it’s all in that same general idea,” Simmons told the newspaper. “A vapor type product does omit an inorganic odor. An inorganic smell would be perfume and sometimes people will spray that to mask another odor and it’s really hard to get it out.”

The process for eliminating smoke from vehicles sometimes involves an oxidation machine. It’s left on inside a vehicle for several hours to overnight to lift odors and clean the car. It’s not always successful. The Odor Doctors company uses steam and it has treated more than 70,000 vehicles in the past 15 years.

Vehicles with a smoke smell that can’t be eliminated can lose 10 percent of their resale values, according to industry experts.

James Raia, a syndicated columnist in Sacramento, California, publishes a free weekly automotive podcast and electronic newsletter. Sign-ups are available on his website, www.theweeklydriver.com. He can be reached via email: james@jamesraia.com.

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RV Tire Safety: How “strong” of a tire do I need, and what’s Load Range?

By Roger Marble
I found a discussion on Load Range in a Forum where the question “How strong of a tire do I need?” was being discussed. Here is some of the discussion:

Below you see what is stamped on my tire sidewall:
Load Range is rated at “H” 4940# single tire That’s at max pressure!!
Load Range 4675 Dual tires.
Tread is 5 ply of steel. Good puncture protection with 5 steel treads.
Sidewall is 1 ply of steel. Maybe this is why they ride smoother with only 1 steel side wall.
Am I missing something since your Load Rating info is not the same as mine. There’s not enough plies to be rated an “H” tire???

Well, I felt that a better understanding of the “strength” of the steel ply in the subject tires might help people understand the concept of different tire constructions

The number of “ply” or layers of cord (textile or steel) are not in themselves any proof of strength. Individual cords of steel are made up of many strands. The steel or other material used to make the strands can have a wide range of strength. Also the number of strands and even the “twist” of the strands can affect the strength and flexibility in the end product. Here are some basic examples of steel cord/cable:

Each has a different configuration. Without more information it would be impossible to know which is “strongest.” Don’t forget tires have to flex and bend millions of times so just max strength may not be the best choice as you need flexibility too.

If we get to more complex cords, we “twist” cords together and can get different properties, as seen here:

So an obvious question is how is the material selected by the tire engineer? There are a number of different tests conducted on tires to establish their “strength” rating, and the different materials can help a tire meet the different tests. It is completely possible for a given tire to pass some tests associated with a given level – let’s say “G.” BUT if a given tire only passes the “F” level of one test, then the tire would be rated as “F” even if it passed the “G” level in the other tests.

Now if the sales department wanted a “G”-rated tire then they would ask the engineer to change the specification so the tire could pass all the “G”-level testing. This change or “improvement” may or may not result in more layers of steel.

I can relate to an actual example of such a process in a tire I developed. It turned out in this case that the only change I needed to make was the wire in the “bead” of the tire. This is the “cable” of wire that holds the tire on the wheel. It is kind of an anchor for the body ply. Here is a very basic image of tire components. The feature I want you to understand is where the “bead” is located.

As you can see, the “ply” can be very complex and simply looking at the number but not the Load Range can be misleading.

The bottom line is you need to know the Load Capacity in pounds that you need for your specific application. In the same size you may have different Load Range such as E, F or G. Each Load Range has a different inflation level for the size tire you are considering and a different load capacity. So you need to consider much more than just the number and type of “ply.”

 

Read more from Roger Marble on his blog at RVtiresafety.net or on RVtravel.com.

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RV Daily Tips. Friday, October 16, 2020

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Today’s thought

“Even if you are on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.” ―Will Rogers


Need an excuse to celebrate? Today is Global Cat Day!

On this day in history: 1923 – The Walt Disney Company is founded.



Tip of the Day

How to use your RV toilet in cold weather

Chris Dougherty, Certified RV Technician, posted this tip while he was serving as RVtravel.com’s technical editor.

Some people prefer not to use the plumbing system during the winter for fear of doing something wrong and risking a freeze-up, and subsequent damage. Others prefer to just use the toilet, and depend on campgrounds for their other needs. It’s possible to use your RV toilet for brief periods in freezing weather. Continue reading.

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Why so many RVs are junk

Why are RVs made so cheaply, why are some “junk,” and why are they even sold in the first place when there’s a high likelihood that the buyer will have problems with the unit? This video does a great job of answering those questions. If you’re about to buy an RV, especially a lightweight-model trailer, you should watch this.

Yesterday’s featured article: Your Sprinter RV cost too much? Blame chickens!



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Quick Tip

Avoid holding tank surprises

“To save yourself from pranks, failing to close the valves after dumping and small leaks, I leave a clear 45-degree extension on my sewer outlet with the cap on so that I can see if there are any surprises waiting for me! If there are I rotate the extension up before attaching the hose.” Thanks to Phil W.
Editor: Here are several clear sewer hose adapters on Amazon.


fire extinguisherFire Extinguishing Aerosol, Two-pack
The First Alert Tundra Fire Extinguishing Aerosol Spray is easier to use and discharges 4 times longer than traditional fire extinguishers. With an aerosol nozzle and portable size, it’s suited for the kitchen, car, garage, boat or RV. The formula wipes away with a damp cloth & is biodegradable. Learn more or order.


Website of the day

HitchItch
Ever wonder what other RVers are up to? How are they making money? How’d they remodel their rig so it looks that nice? HitchItch lists pages of blogs of fellow RVers so you can stay up to date, get advice, and learn how other RVers are living.


Clubs and useful organizations
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• Harvest Hosts: Stay free at farms, wineries and other scenic and peaceful locations for free. Save 15% on membership.
AllStays: The best website for RVers! Your membership will become your RV-bible.
• Overnight RV parking. Directory of more than 14,000 locations where you can stay for free or nearly free with your RV. Modest membership fee.
• Boondockers Welcome. Stay at homes of RVers who welcome you in their driveways, yards, farmland or other space on their private property. Modest membership fee.
Escapees. Best Club for RVers: All RVers welcome, no matter what type of RV, make or model.


Trivia

There are immortal jellyfish! The Turritopsis dohrnii, a species of jellyfish also known as the “immortal jellyfish,” is able to revert back to its youth state after going through adulthood. It can’t ever die … well, from old age, at least.

*What is a “twirlwind” and what is a “twirlblast?” You probably already know, but if you can’t think of it, we told you in yesterday’s trivia.


Say goodbye to goop!
Have you ever seen the sediment that collects in your water heater? You probably don’t want to. Camco’s water tank rinser is an easy-to-use gadget that is a must-have for any RVer. The tank rinser will get out all the yucky sediment that’s been sitting at the bottom of your water heater and, most importantly, will extend the life of it too. Read the many positive reviews, and get one for yourself here.


Readers’ Pet of the Day

“This is Andy. In 2000-2002 my (then) wife and I took our 2 kids (10 and 11), and Andy, and traveled the U.S. in our RV for 18 months. I think Andy is the only rabbit to see all 48 contiguous states!” —Joe Hicke

Send us a photo of your pet with a short description. We publish one each weekday in RV Daily Tips and in our Saturday RV Travel newsletter.


Leave here with a laugh

Two clocks go out to dinner. After they finish eating, one clock says to his friend, “I’m still hungry!” His friend replies, “So go back four seconds.”

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