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MrDisaster
2 months ago

I know it is relatively easy to report the fuel prices and I check it to get a guide for fuel costs (and I use Gas Buddy). Have you given any thought to reporting propane prices? They seem to vary widely with little rhyme or reason. Maybe publicizing them in the most widely read “Weekly RV Newsletter” would put a little pressure on propane retailers to be competitive with propane prices.

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  MrDisaster

Propane gets used primarily for heat in the winter for those who full-time or even weekend. BBQ amounts or stove/oven cooking (for those that still have propane stove tops or ovens) are minuscule in the grand scheme. For a 40 lb bottle, its about 9.2 gallons to fill to 80% (max allowed). We average $20-21 per bottle. One tank can last about 3-4 days if its around 10-20F.

If you are looking for a less expensive place to purchase, check out Tractor Supply. They are nationwide and about the cheapest everywhere we go. Current prices in OK and TX are about $2.29 gal.

If you go to the propane DEALER, expect to pay 30-50% or more. I’ve checked a few at $3.50 to $4.

Obviously, if you are in Alaska, California/Washington/Oregon or the North-East, it’s probably a lot more.

If you have a 20 lb bottle, it will be less. But for 20 lb bottles, you have options such as Walmart or Ace Hardware or others.

TravelingMan
2 months ago

“Winnebago will close its Winnebago/Country Coach Factory Service Center in Junction City, Oregon…”

To conglomerate the product with existing lines in Indiana for a cheaper wholesale cost and supply chain no doubt.

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

Traveling Man, That it speculation of your part. What do you know that makes you feel comfortable making a statement like that?

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

Got a better reason why they closed and moved to centralize operations? Are they planning to open another line there instead with record sales?

Why else would they close?

Taxes and high labor rates perhaps?

What have you heard?

TravelingMan
2 months ago

“Elkhart County, Ind., home of most RV manufacturers, had its highest daily number of COVID-19 cases”

Aren’t you tired of hearing the CUMULATIVE numbers?

How about giving us the following instead?

1) Population of the County (the basis of any responsible and meaningful testing or reporting)

2) Number of Cumulative Cases (nice to know but irrelevant unless applied to the county population so we can see how many are left in the county that have not achieved herd immunity)

3) Number of Currently Active Cases (this is the number to watch but is still totally misleading since not everyone is tested and many walk around asymptomatic)

4) Number of Recovered Cases (general or typical recovery period 2-3 weeks? Used to calculate the remaining herd that is susceptible)

5) Number of Hospitalizations Currently Active (so we can see how many are at home recovering – or supposed to be at home)

6) Number of Deaths (here is the REAL risk – otherwise, it’s just another bad flu)

7) Percentage of the County Population that is Currently Active (most important but inaccurate number since many are not tested or reported. If we know the percentage tested or active though, we can apply a percentage to the county population and get a better sense of the REAL risk to the community)

It’s still not accurate overall. But it will give a person a better sense of the REAL risk out there. In the county we are in, there are 14,557 people (excluding those that travel thru the area). The news deliberately focuses on the Cumulative of over 60 persons and it continues to add to it at every chance they get. But if one looks at the current ACTIVE cases (via an alternate resource), there are 3 (0.02060864% – LESS THAN 1%) Deaths are even less. And WHERE are those 3 ACTIVE cases currently? Who knows…Are they at the hospital with respirators and experimental drugs? Or are they at home recovering with flu-like symptoms? The liberal fake news media refuses to provide information that is either meaningful or useful.

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Chuck Woodbury (@chuck)
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

It had the highest number of COVID-19 cases last Thursday. That is what we said. We are not a website that specializes in COVID-19. If we went into that kind of detail on every little news brief we posted, half our readers would leave because of boredom.

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Chuck Woodbury

This is not about what RVTravel is reporting. RVTravel can only get whats publicly published. It is what the media is reporting and that is what bothers me. It’s biased and using fear tactics. I’m not disputing that there is a cumulative number. Of course there is. But that is not what we need to focus on to make educated decisions about whether we go out or not.

Snayte
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

All of the information you are asking for is readily available in the Internet. Every statistic cannot reasonably be included in every news story.
Beside it make little difference until a vaccine is available and distributed just wear your mask to slow the spread no matter where you are.

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Snayte

I believe in accurate and responsible reporting. Not half or manipulated truths. It would not be that hard or take that much space to do such. There are only 7 numbers to come up with. It’s either political bias or some other agenda; just plain lousy reporting; or laziness. AND, I can’t find the information in most cases. The media ONLY reports the Cumulative.

C.Lee
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

I agree some states have used the numbers to drive public action….my state of New Mexico reported nothing but cumulative case numbers, going up and up, for months when they wanted to scare people into staying home and keeping the economy shut down. When recoveries started coming in, they only presented them as a general state-wide number. One had no way of knowing where these recoveries were. But once the governor decided to start “opening up” the economy and “allowed” business to re-open (incidentally, no one has determined where her authority to shut private businesses down came from in the first place), suddenly the state’s COVID/Jinping Plague website started identifying recoveries by county, and we found some counties had less that HALF the active cases the cumulative numbers appeared to indicate..and some counties had dropped to one or two cases, and many had less than 20. We still have a couple counties that have had no cases yet.

I’m not saying it was a total “con job”. The pandemic is real, and serious, but the numbers are definitely being used in an attempt to sway people one way or the other as government needs and wants.

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  C.Lee

EXACTLY! This is what we discovered early on as well.

Snayte
2 months ago
Reply to  C.Lee

Weird that the state wanted to keep your economy shut down. How exactly does the state benefit from keeping everything shut down?

mzmo
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

It doesnt matter howmuch some people “know” they buy the rw propaganda, but Re #6 “otherwise its just another bad flu”–yeah unless you consider the permanent damage to lungs and other organs & the list of lasting effects that are yet to be discovered.

TravelingMan
2 months ago

“Debi Bair’s Michigan campground won’t be like many in her neighborhood. …”

FEDERAL LAW against drug use includes Marijane…Where are the FEDS? Place Mayors and Police Chiefs in Prison for BREAKING THE LAW! Otherwise, make ALL drugs legal so that the herd can be thinned…In the meantime, stay off the roads…

Gordy
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

Marijuana is legal in Michigan for recreational use, and medical use. Sadly!

Snayte
2 months ago
Reply to  Gordy

That is great it should be nationwide.

Doig
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

What a ridiculous thing to get so excited about. Medical marijuana is legal in Michigan and it certainly doesn’t seem as harmful as incarcerating people for a rather Innocuous act. A lot more are killed by drivers consuming alcohol than getting high on a little weed. And just so you know where I’m coming from I don’t indulge myself.

TravelingMan
2 months ago

“Truck driver statistics: With 10,000+ positive drug tests for marijuana…”

Not one word in here about them having their license removed or them going to jail…

When they pull into a Weight Station, perhaps they should randomly pull truckers aside and give them a drug test on the spot. Then, if positive, pull their license and send them to jail for a minimum of 5 years.

Gordy
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

They do pull random tests at scales, the sobriety test for truckers ( .04 is drunk, any alcohol detectable is impaired) they also can search the complete rig (sleeper included) for drugs or alcohol or anything else without reasonable cause. I drove truck for 33yrs. now retired. Also any pills had to be in original container, even over the counter.

Roy
2 months ago
Reply to  TravelingMan

As a former truck driver I would be curious how many of those testing positive were getting their first test to be a driver. Many of the people who go to truck driving school don’t know this isn’t allowed.

Bob Ritchie
2 months ago

Chuck, keep up the good work we all need to know what is happening in the rv world, good bad and ugly.
As a Canadian from B.C. I am glad the border is closed, we love our u.s. friends and your great country but until your border states clean up their act re COVID we don’t need anymore visitors to our provinces that could possibly contaminate us. We are looking forward to when things get back to some semblance of normal so we can begin our rv travels in both countries once again.

Michelle Konst
2 months ago

Thank you, Chuck, for another informative newsletter. 🙂

Sally smith
2 months ago

This was the most depressing newsletter ever. Anything positive to say? EuthNized bears, fires, crushed RV accidents, crack head truck drivers. Jesus… in today’s environment and horrible daily news, a little uplifting talk would be nice.

Richard E Rothrock
2 months ago
Reply to  Sally smith

Ditto !

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Sally smith

So…Hiding in the sand? When WOULD you prefer to hear about any news that you can’t get from any other source that is so controlled? Perhaps a different venue might be a better choice. You can stop here when you DO want to know what else is going on out there. Just an opposing opinion…

Jeff Arthur
2 months ago

FYI Michigan is legal for recreational use of marijuana along with medical use

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Arthur

Can anyone explain HOW the States are getting around the FEDERAL LAW?

Mary
2 months ago

Are you trying to promote or discourage rving? How about some good news once in a while. Maybe some uplifting stories and photos. You don’t seem to want any newbies or anyone without your style of rv. Please stop calling people idiots for not agreeing with you. I really thought this newsletter was designed to help people with rving. Guess I was wrong.

Sally smith
2 months ago
Reply to  Mary

Exactly my response! Agree!

Jeb
2 months ago
Reply to  Mary

Where did they call anyone idiots?

TravelingMan
2 months ago
Reply to  Mary

It is RV’ing info….Don’t you want to hear about your driving risks? Would you have known about the drug infestation among Truck Driver’s otherwise? I certainly did NOT read about it in the liberal/fake news. Keep up the great work RV Travel!

KellyR
2 months ago
Reply to  Mary

Hmmmm, I come to this site to find out what is going on, not to look at someone’s pictures of the Grand Canyon – again – or hear their stories of their fantastic trip. There are tons of sites for that.

Tom Smithbrother
2 months ago

Just for fun:
Some places are requiring mandatory wearing of masks while in that particular location. I notice that the requirement are never stated what the type or style of mask chosen must be. I have thought about going with a lone ranger type mask. ha ha The Covid 19 virus 1/9000 the thickness of one human hair. I hope everyone feels safe wearing them. The only thing that actually works is distance from the source. In fairness one who has it, wearing a mask, cannot sneeze or cough on another while wearing one. If I have a cough or a sneezing, I do it far from others. If a cold I avoid even being around others.

Jeb
2 months ago

Will you stop breathing. You don’t have to have a cough to have covid. You may be asymptomatic. Show your love for your fellow man by wearing a mask while around others.

TravelingMan
2 months ago

I can appreciate you staying away from others…I too choose that option when its available, but for now use a mask when we have to go into a crowded location outside this particular county that only has 3 recorded cases in a population of 14,557 good folks.

So… do you eject the sneeze into wide open spaces where no one is present within 100 yards or into your sleeve or hands where it can be spread by contact onto other surfaces that you touch?

What happens when you are in a building or near a crowd? Can you actually control that sneeze or cough? What about that sneeze or cough from others? You’re not worried about that at all?

And when you’re in a building that does not have adequate UV lights or HEPA filtration in the HVAC, you’re OK breathing in any air circulating throughout?

I might agree that the size of the “germ” is small, it is contained in a “droplet” that is not the same size and contains many more germs. Droplets are not all created equal. An ounce of prevention is worth a ton of cure.

KellyR
2 months ago

If the virus is that very small, thousands of them must be trapped in one thread of any mask that I am wearing. My mask must be cutting the odds by thousands.