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May 8, 2021
With Chuck Woodbury
Would you call this a recreational vehicle? What I mean is, is this an RV you would use for “recreation”? I say no. I suggest this is a “mobile home.” It’s a 37-foot Keystone travel trailer, and officially labeled a recreational vehicle. Our RV reviewer Tony Barthel wrote about in last Wednesday’s RV Daily Tips Newsletter.
Stare at the photo for a moment. Is living in this or traveling with it “camping” or “roughing it?” I think not. Recreational vehicle? No, I say it’s a “living vehicle.”
This is issue 999 of this weekly newsletter. When I started it in 2001, RVs did not look like small, elegant homes. They didn’t have slide outs. Few people lived in them full-time. People used their RVs back then to camp — to rough it with some creature comforts — a bed, stove, dinette and a roof over their heads. Ye ol’ toilet was a short walk away, most often of the pit variety, a slender, smelly vertically built structure over a big hole in the ground, and a bit of Heaven on Earth for a housefly. The idea of camping a few decades ago and before then was to leave the comforts of home behind to “rough it” in nature. Today, it’s often to bring every comfort of home with you. Nature, well, it’s not necessarily important.
I can only think of one creature comfort we have at home that we cannot have in an RV — a garbage disposal. RVs today come with washer/dryers, dishwashers, heated floors, built-in vacuums, wine coolers and even dog bowls that appear from hidden compartments at the push of a button. If you have a garbage disposal, please let me know.
EVER SINCE I BEGAN THIS NEWSLETTER, manufacturers have one-upped each other every new model year. Holding tanks, air conditioners and bathrooms were not always common 40 years ago. But after the turn of the century, the comfort level of RVs hit warp speed with the debut of slide outs. No longer did “campers” need to bump into each other when moving about their compact, wheeled abodes. For many people, living in such a comfortable “home” that moved easily made great sense. It appealed to their sense of wanderlust.
It’s this change in how we use RVs that fascinates me, and it’s what this newsletter and website will try to make sense of in the decade ahead.
Issue 1,000 of this newsletter is coming next week. I will have an announcement about my future. It’s hard for me to believe that 20 years have passed since I started this newsletter. (It was prompted over a bet with a buddy. The winner bought the other a case of beer. I won, but so far no beer.)
I have written millions of words through all those years with a deadline every week to write something semi-intelligent in this space. I have succeeded at times and I have failed miserably, too. But it has been incredibly fun. I’ll write more next week.
Until then. . .
P.S. This commercial with two ’60s gals talking about cigarettes is so corny, it cracks me up! Watch the one-minute video.
Stories in tomorrow’s newsletter
• We look at the new camper for the Tesla truck.
• Yellowstone testing driverless shuttles this summer. Would you ride?
• Your perfect truck mash-up. Which truck features would you combine?
• City of Austin reinstates camping ban. Don’t try parking on the street.
• And the latest breaking news still being reported by our writers.
PLUS: Campground updates • Latest fuel prices • Free and bargain camping locations • Stolen RV Report • Latest RV recalls • AARP Scam Report • Reader survey • and much more.
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Last week’s Tip of the Day highlights in RV Daily Tips Newsletters
• Caring for these is the easiest thing you can do to stay safe while driving
• How to kill lingering RV refrigerator smells
• 12 ways to support your favorite campground
• Blowing in the wind: 7 truckers’ tips for safe driving
Today, industry insider Tony Barthel previews the Pearl Caravan prototype. Washington state park ranger Rod Jacques has seen a lot of RVs in campgrounds over the years, and owned a couple of them, but none of them were up to his standards. Read about his story and the RV he’s created in today’s preview. (Hint: It’s cool!)
Last week’s reviews:
• 2021 Northwood Desert Fox 27FS Toy Hauler • Coachmen Apex Nano 16T Travel Trailer • Keystone Arcadia 370RL Travel Trailer • Forest River Wildwood FSX 260RT • 2021 Coachmen Spirit 2557RB Travel Trailer
Clintoons • By Clint Norrell
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Epic dump station design failure – Gross!
By Dave Helgeson
A while back I wrote about the venerable sewer hose and how one day it may become obsolete and relegated to the past. Well, some engineer at the Nevada Department of Transportation made an attempt to obsolete the sewer hose. They did this by creating a dump station where the use of a sewer hose is not an option! —Oh, my goodness! You won’t believe this – unless you have already seen it in person. Check this out!
Campground Crowding: “Boondocking is as full as the campsites!”
More people than ever are taking up RVing. The result is campground crowding like never before. In this edition of our weekly blog, RV Travel readers discuss campground availability, selling their RVs in record time, crowded and noisy boondocking, camping at fairgrounds, the need to adapt, some interesting perspective from the other side of the check-in desk, a happy beginning for an RVing couple, and much more, here.
NEW: Work camping: Why now is the time to try it
By Julie Chickery
Work camping is a great way to earn an income and reduce your expenses as a full-time RV traveler. … [T]he world of work camping is vast and there are many opportunities to earn a full-time income as you travel the country. In this weekly column, I’ll highlight work camping opportunities, compensation packages, and other benefits associated with the practice. Continue reading.
Danger! Check your RV’s mattress for fiberglass! Yes, really!
By Gail Marsh
Many RVers switch out the original bed mattress that comes from the RV factory and purchase a memory foam mattress or “bed-in-a-box” as a replacement. A foam mattress might be more comfortable. But it might be dangerous, as well! Learn more.
Last year at this time, these were the most popular articles
• An RV rental horror story: “I was ripped off by an RV rental scam!”
• RV Tire Safety: “Tire dressing” and “Do not use covers.” Where’s the test data?!
• What is a skateboard called in Kingman, Arizona?
• Too many dashboard accessories?
How important is it to you to spend time alone?
Please let us know. After you click your response, you’ll see how others have responded. Feel free to leave a comment. CLICK HERE.
The most popular poll in this past week’s RV Daily Tips newsletters:
Is traveling to Alaska with your RV on your bucket list? See how more than 2,500 other RVers responded.
Read other polls we’ve run through the years. There are more than a thousand. It’s fascinating reading.
First I am dried, then I am wet. The longer I swim, the more taste you get. What am I?
(Answer in tomorrow’s Sunday news newsletter. And please don’t spoil it for other readers by posting the answer in the comments.)
Cars of the future as envisioned in 1948
What a hoot! Here’s what cars of the future would look like as envisioned in 1948. Watch the short video. Is that Flash Gordon behind the wheel?
Don’t buy a new RV – Rent one for $1 a night! Here’s how…
By Mike Gast
So, you’d like to take a one-way RV trip to L.A., San Francisco or Las Vegas but you don’t currently own an RV? No problem. The big news is you can make the trip for $1 a day! I know. This all sounds like it should be tossed in the “too good to be true” pile. But the sudden growth of RV rental companies and peer-to-peer rental outfits comes along with a new problem for them, and an opportunity for you. Learn all about it here.
Beware the “death wobble.” It could happen to your truck
By Gail Marsh
The first time it happened we felt sure we were going to die. No kidding! Our Ford F-250 dually truck was humming down the road when, without warning, the front end began shaking. The front tires felt like they were jumping! The violent shaking of the front end matched the crazy, uncontrollable movement of the steering wheel. It jumped from right to left and back and forth so fast that I don’t know how my husband held on! Continue reading about this not-uncommon experience.
The best smartphone case for RVers, hands down
By Mike Gast
I’ve had a smartphone since they invented the things. My previous employer wanted me in touch 24/7, so the phone was always on and always at my fingertips. That meant the actual phone took a lot of abuse as it came along on hikes, meetings, bike trips and vacations. Where I was, it was. The constant companionship of a smartphone led me to become an expert in phone cases. Find out what brand Mike highly recommends here.
Stay overnight on lava fields in Grants, New Mexico
By Nanci Dixon
A fun and informative stop on our recent travels was the lava fields in Grants, New Mexico. The huge rocks and slabs of lava that oozed out and blew out of volcanoes 3,000 – 5,000 years ago surround the interstate. We stopped for the night at the local KOA and, although the campground was not much different than any small town overnight-only spot, they were situated on a lava field. Read more about this very unique location.
A big fat lie RV dealers tell RV buyers
In this short video, Josh Winters of Haylett RV offers a warning to would-be buyers about a scam (he doesn’t call it that, but that’s what it is) that some dealers pull on buyers that ends up costing them a lot more money and potential financial heartache down the road. Watch the video.
Goodbye. There won’t be another edition of Walmart Locator guidebook
If you rely on a well-worn printed copy of the Walmart Locator guidebook to find your next free overnight spot, you might soon have to look elsewhere. Roundabout Publications, a small Kansas City-based publisher of many outdoor guides and books, says the Fourth Edition of its Walmart Locator title will be the last. Continue reading.
Essay from Bloomberg Businessweek:
A reporter packs his family into a rented RV at the RV capital of the world, Elkhart, Indiana, then reports, “I drove 1,100 miles in an RV, and all I got was a bloody hand and a pool of raw sewage.”
He continues: “Conventional wisdom says that workers and vacationers are on the road back to pre-pandemic norms. But it’s also possible that the sudden embrace of RVs signals the beginning of a longer-term trend — a future in which tech executives and 2nd grade teachers finish their last Zoom of the day, emerge from their respective travel trailers to gather around a campfire, and unwind over cold beers and hot s’mores.” CLICK BELOW TO PLAY.
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Popular articles from last week
• The Walmart of the future may not include overnight RV parking
• Campground Crowding: “I sold my trailer 15 minutes after listing it for sale!”
• What would you do if Walmart stopped allowing overnight RV stays? (Readers’ responses.)
• RV Tire Safety: Are ST-type tires better because they have a higher “speed rating”?
• Just how bad is it? Are boondocking locations getting crowded?
• Will fuel shortages affect your summer travel?
• Portable washing machine saves weight for RV. YUP.
• Blowing in the wind: Truckers’ tips for safe driving
• We tested tons of black tank treatments – this is the only one that worked
• Campground and RV Park News, May 1, 2021
• All the RV lingo you need to, and should, know
• More spam from Camping World
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Directory of RV parks with storm shelters
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What does financing an RV for 20 years REALLY mean?
In case you missed this article the first time around, here it is again. Important! Click here.
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NEW! Phone Photography Tips
In this new weekly column, phone photography expert Mike Gast will walk you through simple, easy-to-understand tips and tricks for getting better photos with your smartphone. You’ll be a pro in no time! Read the first tip here.
RV Repair and Maintenance
with Mark Polk, RV Education 101
This tips ran in our weekday RV Daily Tips Newsletter this past week, but for those of you who don’t subscribe (why not?), here it is again.
• How to Increase the longevity of your tow vehicle
Shore power plug meltdown
By Mike Sokol
I found this picture of a 50-amp shore power plug meltdown last week, and posted it on my RVelectricity Facebook page asking for guesses as to how it happened. The comments and guesses went on for 2 days, and I finally posted my conclusions, which I’ll share with you. Continue reading this interesting and important post.
This week’s J.A.M. (Just Ask Mike) Session
Don’t plug a 20-amp cord into a 50-amp outlet!
I’ve got a cargo van camper conversion. I just need to plug into a 15- or 20-amp 120-volt socket with my extension cord. Can I use the first adapter to connect to 30-amp and/or connect both adapters in line to plug into a 50-amp socket? Thanks. —Jim
RV Tire Safety
What is the “best” tire to buy for a travel trailer?
By Roger Marble
This question “What is the ‘best’ tire?” is usually framed as, “What tires should I buy for my RV trailer?” I usually stay away from brand recommendations when someone asks about buying trailer tires. As a certified Forensic Tire Engineer, I will say that whatever you get, you should ABSOLUTELY be sure the new tires have a load capacity that is at least equal to the original equipment (OE) tire capacity. Better yet: Get tires that can support 120% of the load capacity of the OE tires. Continue reading.
Recipe of the Day
Scalloped Potatoes With Bacon
by Cindi M Bauer from Marshfield, WI
Scalloped potatoes sound (and look) fancy, but they’re very easy to make. This recipe layers sliced potatoes with bacon, onion, and seasonings. Warm milk with melted butter is poured over the top. As it bakes, the mixture creates a creamy sauce. A crowd-pleasing side dish with a savory bacon flavor, these scalloped potatoes are cooked to perfection.
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Other recipes featured in this week’s Daily Tips Newsletters:
• Breakfast Lasagna • Tri-Color Spinach and Artichoke Mac and Cheese • Easy Healthy Inside-Out Burrito • Grilled Chicken Cordon Bleu • Honey Mustard Shrimp on the Bar-B
The Digital RVer
The problem with planners
by Chris Guld, GeeksOnTour.com
I’m talking about trip planners here. All those apps that RVers use to plan where to go, what to see, and how to get there. There’s a lot of them. Here is an incomplete list – just the ones that I have tried. Chris lists some pros and cons of five popular trip planner apps here.
SECRET PHRASE: Polly had a Quacker. (Remember this for tomorrow’s newsletter)
Readers’ Pet of the Day
“Yoshi with his squeaky ball.” —Helen Lottridge
Pets featured in this past week’s RV Daily Tips:
• Monday: Billy • Tuesday: Maggie • Wednesday: Hilde, Migna and Zelda • Thursday: Tucker Bojangles • Friday: Zoe
Vintage Postcard of the Week
Postcards owned by Colleen and Ed Weum, Pacific Northwest Postcard Club. Read more about their 90,000 postcard collection here.
The most searched video tutorial on YouTube is “How to kiss.”
Word and Phrase Origins
From the book, Word and Phrase Origins by Robert Hendrickson:
My lips are sealed. “I’ll keep it a secret, I won’t tell a soul. This has been traced to British Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin in 1936-37. Baldwin vowed confidentiality several times when asked about the abdication of King Edward VIII. ‘My lips are sealed,’ he said on one occasion, ‘I am bound to keep silence.’ Whether or not he invented the expression is unknown, but this is the first record of it.”
Laugh of the Week
Leave with a song from the past
Bad, Bad Leroy Brown
September 20, 1973, was a sad day for music fans when up and coming folk singer and songwriter Jim Croce died at age 30 in a plane crash. Here, from earlier that year, is one of his biggest hits.
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Defining an RV is as difficult as defining an RVer (person). Some think the ideal RVer is a full timer. I’ve come to accept that there’s no definition other than “someone who owns an RV.” Even glamper isn’t good enough.
Chuck, I think you need to date things back to the 1950’s when bathrooms we’re not common. 40 years ago was 1981. Besides pop up camping trailers and small slide in pickup campers I can’t think of a single RV that didn’t have a holding tank. The first travel trailer that my folks bought was a 1961 16’ Wini and it had a toilet and bathroom sink with a holding tank. I recall that the smaller Scotties didn’t have a bathroom but other than that everything at the RV shows had bathrooms. Campground bathrooms were awful in the 50’s and 60’s. They’re not much better now IHO.
I recently requested that, when opening articles they open in a separate tab so I wouldn’t have to keep returning to the start of the newsletter. I am finding more and more often that this is happening. Thank you very much. It makes it a lot easier to read the newsletter from start to finish now.
We have a 2015 Mobile Suites that came with a garbage disposal. My wife was concerned about putting things like potato peelings in the gray tank, so it was rarely used. We finally had it removed… saved weight, too!
On today’s mega land-yacht RVs: “Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess.” ~ Oscar Wilde. IMO, it’s getting harder and harder to “get away from it all” and “get back to nature” when so many people insist on bringing it all with them… To quote another poet: “They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.”
Some folks (like my wife and I) only wanted to be able to ride new roads (with our motorcycles) and not be stuck to one geographic location. Now the proud owners of a 44′ Fifth Wheel toy hauler, and both of us working remotely, having “brought it all with us” made it possible and desirable for us.
Jim Croce was one of the best balladiers to walk this earth. Like reading a great novel or myster, you could “see” the story and actions in his songs.
Well, shucks. I’m cruising along reading the articles that open in another tab and closing the tab when finished to get back to the newsletter. Then I get to the Saturday Giveaway! and Click here to enter. I fill out the entry submit and click to close the tab. BAM! I’ve lost my newsletter. Have to go back to the email and start over again.I like concistancy. If you are going to have links open in a new tab/page, then have them all do that.
I was accustom to your previous way of opening links in same page so I just had to hit the back button. But I can work with the new way of opening a new tab/page for the links but make them ALL that way. PLEASE
Funny. I noticed that too! Very annoying.
I have started opening the newsletter from email and ‘opening in chrome’ to get me out of the email being tied up.
Sometimes I get dumped from chrome as well (on my android) and have to all the way back to email and start the whole process over.
I recognize the RVTravel family is about recreation and not geek speak so I do appreciate the effort at making it better
SO no complaint just an observation!
Chuck, I’ve got a 2013 DRV Suites 5th wheel RV that came stock with a garbage disposal. I use it all the time and never guessed that it was a rarity to have one. I don’t think it would be hard to add one to most other units if there’s enough space under the sink.
I certainly agree with you, Chuck. Our 43′ motorhome has many of the features you mention with the exception of a wine cooler and the hidden doggie bowl. Consequently, I rarely if ever tell anyone that we “camp” because we don’t. We “travel,” not “camp.” I do almost always call our motorhome an RV, largely because failing to do so usually offended my father-in-law who had a fifth-wheel camper and “knew” that I looked down my nose because he did not have a motorhome. Anyway, point well-made and I cannot agree more. 🙂
“Bad, bad Leroy Brown” reminds me of my dancing days in the ‘70’s at the International Schooner in Seattle. Dive bar, Lederhosen-clad oom-pah band with tuba. They would take a break from hambo’s and schottisches to play something “modern”. Complete with Scandahoovian accent. Hilarious! I know this is not about RV’ing, but good memories!
Visiting Fort Worth, Texas, I watched a city bus with the accordion fold in the middle. Just had to be over sixty feet long. One day they will have motor homes like this.
Chuck, Once someone coins a new term for “Recreational Vehicles” we will need a new definition on how they are used as “Camping” no longer fits many applications. Now that you mentioned it, expect to see a garbage disposal in RVs soon as manufacturers look for ways to one up one another. Just need a 2″ line from the garbage disposal to the gray tank and instruct people to leave the gray valve closed until the tank is 2/3 or better full. The rush of water when dumping will carry out the solids just like the black tank.
In my view, camping involves staying at a place that will limit your stay time to a week or so. That is a “Campground”. If you are allowed to stay long term, it should be described as a “Park”, RV Park or Mobile Home Park – Same thing. It’s parked. I am not against having creature comforts in my camper. I just prefer being out in nature rather than in a concrete jungle. The confusion is that we can take an RV to a campground or to a park. So if we distinguish “Camping” from “Parking” it might work out better.
p.s. If it is longer than about 29 feet and it should not be called an RV it is a mobile home.
An advantage of gift cards is our Kroger store occasionally give 4x points for gift cards. My daughter put me onto it. Got $1 off a gal on fuel. One fuel stop got me 35 gallons of diesel for $33.75 probably never going to see those prices again.
In TN there is no limit to how many points you can redeem on gas at Kroger. Several times I have paid less than 20c/gallon!
I usually buy a HD $500 gift card and get 2000 points ( a buck a gal off 35 gallons twice, or 2 bux off in TN, either wY it is $70 off $500 I spend at HD). It gets better! I get 5-10% more off at HD (Pro & Veterans discounts) AND I get 2% cash back on the credit card I bought the gift card with! Total savings almost 25% on stuff I need (hardware & fuel) everyday!
One last wrinkle (haven’t tried this yet).
Additional 5% cash back on gas bought with Sams Club m/c. Just use it at Kroger Gas.
Oh if you don’t have Kroger in your area, the same deal applies to any Kroger Chain owned supermarket so find the Kroger brand in your market.
The Laugh of the Week isn’t a laugh at all. It’s BRILLIANT!! Guess what I’ll be buying soon (with hopes that hubby doesn’t see this comment)?
Looking forward to the 1000th issue! However, not looking forward to the details of the possibility of Chuck backing down or leaving?! LOL! Be the COO! Hopefully you will hang in there with us and our early morning routine with coffee?!
Good Morning! It’s a fine coffee mug but does it really make a great prize??
I like $25 a whole lot better and really I think it is easier on y’all to ship (instant gratification with digital gift cards…)
I agree, but both would be a good pair!
You sound like a Millennial. :-/
I would love to add the coffee mug to my collection of two mugs, both with chips. I think it adds character. On the other hand, she is ready to toss them.
SO, RVTravel staff, when are you going to have them available for sale, or add more contests?
Hi, Mike. This particular RV Travel staff doesn’t know the answers to your questions. Sorry. Chuck is the one who’s figuring out what to do with these nifty mugs. Stay tuned… And have a great day! 😀 —Diane