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October 30, 2021
Members edition
Cover story
Get lost, Facebook. You’re not welcome here anymore
By Chuck Woodbury
Facebook is gone. It’s changed it company name to Meta. No kidding! The website will remain known as Facebook and continue to live at Facebook.com.
The new corporate name is “a move to embrace the metaverse” according to the website GamesBeat. So what does that mean? Let me clarify: The metaverse is “an alternate reality that lives online. . . . a platform or series of platforms that share interoperable code to enable individuals to carry their online identities and (more importantly) their purchases from one experience to the next.”
Got that?
OK, YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND. I don’t either, as in I don’t have a clue! But I am pretty sure what it means is that it’s a sneaky way for Mark Zuckerberg to learn more about you so he can extract more money from your wallet, your bank accounts and your children’s college funds. The poor guy is only worth $70 billion dollars. How does a guy get by on that?
And, to think Zuckerberg started Facebook as a way for Harvard guys to rate “hot” (and not so “hot”) Harvard girls, and then it grew to become a major force in wiping out thousands of newspapers and other periodicals by allowing foreign governments and any semi-literate human to post fake stories and information, and in the process promote anger and turn everybody against their family members and neighbors because they didn’t buy “hook, line and sinker” into their favorite cockeyed, wacko, unproven conspiracy theory.
Personally, I have had it with Zuckerberg and his money-grubbing, data-grubbing, hate-enabling empire. And so have most of our readers. In a survey two issues ago we asked “Do you wish Facebook would go away and never come back?” Well, your answer was clear: More than three-quarters of you said, “Get lost Zuck!”
I have a suggestion: How about Elon Musk launches Zuck to Mars where he can rule his own world. He can proclaim the planet be forthwith known as MetaWorld and its capital as Zuck City. He’ll be King.
So here’s what this website, RVtravel.com, in its tiny corner of cyberspace, is going to do: We will never, ever again intentionally advise our readers to visit Facebook — any page, any group. We will not even mention its name. It will become the second “F” word we will never utter.
And, just to let you know, we’re working on a new forum where you will be able to have a Facebook-kinda-experience, but right on this website (coming within weeks). We won’t track you. No way! Never!
P.S. We are still looking for freelance writers. Good pay for the right persons, who should be highly motivated, love to write, have professional writing experience and want to educate RVers to improve their lives. Contact editor@rvtravel.com if interested.
Headline stories in tomorrow’s newsletter
• What essential parts are missing that are gumming up RV production and delaying deliveries?
• Winter to become the new summer at national parks and other public lands
• Campground Crowding: Reader says “Sites like this one” (RVtravel.com) are ruining it! – But we’re only trying to help…
PLUS: Lots more RVing-related news • Campground updates • Latest fuel prices • Stolen RV Report • Latest RV recalls • AARP Scam Report • Reader survey • and much more…
Last week’s Tip of the Day highlights in RV Daily Tips Newsletters
• One of the best tips we’ve ever heard. Read this – It could save your life
• 5 easy ways to make your own campfire starter
• RV fridge door pop open? Here’s a “quick and dirty” fix
• Here are some ways to keep RV memories alive. You’ll be so happy you did
• Reader reminds us: Don’t make RV park newbies outcasts – include them!
Today’s RV review…
Today, industry insider Tony Barthel reviews the new 2022 Jayco White Hawk 29BH. He writes, “Yesterday we looked at how Keystone is bringing a large bunk model to the upper-middle end of the segment, but I also wanted to see how it stacks up against the Jayco White Hawk 29BH.” So how do they compare? See what Tony thinks here.
Last week’s reviews:
• 2022 Entegra Anthem 44B Class A diesel pusher
• 2022 Keystone Cougar 24RDS
• Flagstaff Micro Lite 21FBRS
• 2022 Keystone Raptor 429 fifth wheel toy hauler
• 2022 Keystone Passport 3401QD
Clintoons • By Clint Norrell
MORE OF CLINT
See dozens of other Clint’s cartoons. They’re wonderful!
Two outdoor industry associations. Which one (really) cares about the future?
By Andy Zipser
What’s in a name? There’s the Outdoor Recreation Roundtable, for example, which says it works to “improve the experience and quality of life of outside enthusiasts everywhere.” Its 35 member organizations include the three major RV associations, each of which has a representative on the roundtable’s 19-member board of directors: the National Association of RV Parks and Campgrounds, the RV Dealers Association and the RV Industry Association. Outdoor recreation certainly sounds eco-friendly.
And then there’s the Outdoor Industry Association, which describes itself as “dedicated to industry-wide collaboration to achieve meaningful change in recreation and trade policy, sustainable business innovation and increasing outdoor participation.” Its approximately 1,200 members include familiar brands like Eddie Bauer, L.L. Bean and REI, but also the American Camping Association, the Appalachian Trail Conservancy and the Arbor Day Foundation. Still, outdoor “industry” does sound exploitative, and not nearly as warm and fuzzy as a recreation roundtable. Continue reading.
Millions of acres of public lands could be used as campgrounds. The federal government won’t take the initiative, but you can
By Randall Brink
The pandemic year 2020 marked the beginning of the great upsurge in RV travel, and with it came the endemic of RV camp spot shortages. Nowhere in the literature of RV camping can you venture without encountering the stories of campground reservation frustration, of the advent of the $100+ per night RV spot, or the iniquities of campers arriving at a campground only to be told that their reservation had been modified or cancelled. … I believe the solution to where to park and camp lies at least partially in the vast areas of public and private lands. Read this informative and insightful article. Do you agree with Randall that this is a possible solution to crowded campgrounds?
These are the spare items you should always have on hand in your RV
By Nanci Dixon
Broken, lost or forgotten items can put a damper on or even end an RV trip. After more than six years of full-timing, there are a few spare items we always carry in our RV. Extra weight should always be taken into consideration, but there are a few things that are showstoppers if we don’t have an extra or something to fix the one that broke. Read Nanci’s thorough list here, and let us know if you’ve found anything else handy to carry along.
Several of my friends are quitting RVing. You can probably relate to why they’re doing so
By Gail Marsh
The end. Yes, I know that’s a strange way to begin an article, but it fits! Many, many of our friends are choosing to throw in the towel on their RV lifestyle. They are giving up RVing for good. They have valid reasons, I think. See if you agree.
RVer asks: Do we have to recertify motorhome LP tanks?
By Russ and Tiña De Maris
“RVer run over at Tractor Supply!” OK, not literally, but an RVtravel.com reader had her day ruined by overzealous gas-passers at a Tractor Supply outlet in Fort Myers, Florida. Linda W. rolled into the lot with her 2007 Class C motorhome, in need of LP. The outfit’s propane guy told Linda the motorhome’s tank was too old, and needed to be recertified. While he did fill the tank anyway, it still left Linda in the lurch. Worried about her tank, she hasn’t been able to find anyone to recertify her motorhome LP tank. Continue reading.
New Feature: RV Consumer Support
Would you buy a new RV? Maybe not a good idea
By Russ and Tiña De Maris
While it seems like the RV manufacturing industry is having a bang-up sales year, not everyone is cheering. There’s an undercurrent of folks who aren’t always happy with the quality of their new, spendy purchases. Would you buy a new RV? A couple of comments from readers speak volumes. Read them here.
Last year at this time, these were the most popular articles
• A firsthand look at what it’s like to travel by RV with no reservations
• Self-storage facilities: Is your RV safe?
• Use your cruise control or overdrive while towing?
• Tips to improve your RV’s gas mileage
Reader Poll
Do you know the exact height of your RV?
Please let us know. After you click your response, you’ll see how others have responded. Feel free to leave a comment. CLICK HERE.
The most popular poll in this past week’s RV Daily Tips newsletters:
Have you ever ridden in a helicopter? See how more than 2,000 other RVers responded.
Casino Camping: Reader recommendations for free or affordable casino camping
Casino camping can be a great alternative to crowded campgrounds. Here are some suggestions received from our readers this past week, including casinos in Oregon, California, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Pennsylvania. Check ’em out here.
Gift-giving to RVers: Give experiences, not stuff
By Sandi Sturm
Today was the last day for my work-camping gig at a major resort in Arizona. You know the types of resorts that have more than 600 spaces for RVs and park model homes. My job was helping the activities director as the resort geared up for its busy season. I mention this because it became very apparent to me that the director was not familiar with our full-timer/snowbird lifestyle. … Continue reading about the advisability of giving experiences (with some great suggestions) rather than objects to full-time RVers.
Hubby is a night owl, wife is an early riser. Different sleep schedules hard to manage in RV
By Gail Marsh
“Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise.” Or so the saying goes. But what happens when your hubby is the night owl and you are the early riser? Or the reverse? And what happens when the two of you try to navigate your different sleep rhythms while living in a 34-foot RV, or even less square footage? Yipes! Continue reading for an explanation of what causes different sleep schedules, some suggestions to deal with this situation, and then please add your comments to the conversation.
Downsizing… or not? An RVer’s struggle of what to keep and what to leave behind
By Sandi Sturm
After living 12 years in Alaska, I had quite the library going. Four large bookcases were full of pages I loved unconditionally. I did not read every title, but I loved the thought of them and the people who wrote them. Then we decided to leave Alaska and hit the road. At the time we still had our 19-foot travel trailer, which we used to get there. I could sit at the table and put dishes in the sink without getting up. No couch or extra storage. I guess you can say it was “quaint.” We pulled it with a six-cylinder Toyota Tacoma, so weight was always a concern. … Continue reading about Sandi’s huge collection of books here.
There’s more to these common U.S. birds than you think (can you guess which is the most common?)
It really does not matter where you park that RV, there will be birds. Birds of different sizes, different colors, different calls, and different hangouts. A variety of common birds remain widespread across the United States. You know most, if not all, of them. Continue reading.
Bet you don’t know about the “flying monkeys” near Zion National Park
If you have ever entered Utah’s Zion National Park through the Springdale gate, you drove past Hurricane Mesa. The mesa played a very important role during the Cold War as an Air Force testing site. And that’s where the flying monkeys come in. Read all about it in this fascinating article.
Is this your RV?
If it’s yours and you can prove it to us (send a photo for comparison), tell us here by 9 p.m. Pacific time today, October 30, 2021. If it’s yours you’ll win a $25 Amazon gift certificate.
If this isn’t your RV, send us a photo of your RV (if you haven’t already) for a chance to win in future issues.
We’ll have another photo in tomorrow’s newsletter (sign up to receive an email alert so you don’t miss the issue or those that follow). Some of these photos are submitted by readers while others were taken by our editors and writers on their travels around the USA.
Popular articles from last week
MOST POPULAR:
• Industry analysts warn of propane “Armageddon” this winter. Be prepared.
PLUS:
• You can do way more with leaf blowers than you think! Here are 6 other ways to use them
• Ask Dave: Should a hitch ball be greased or not?
• Big money investors pursue RV parks, but not without conflict
• Campground Crowding: “I never set out to ‘camp.’ I set out to travel.”
• One of the best tips we’ve ever heard. Read this – It could save your life
• Young nomads follow their dreams in homemade RV. What they can teach us
• Winnebago order backlog now tops $4 billion; buyer wait-time likely extended
• RVelectricity: Everything you know is wrong (about circuit breakers)
• Ask Dave: Does trailer length matter when choosing a TPMS?
• RVs 10 years or older are being turned away from campgrounds. Should this be allowed?
• 5 easy ways to make your own campfire starters
• A popular lesson put into play: Don’t let first impressions fool you
Glug-glug … goes the toilet
I have worked on many RVs where the owner had a complaint of toilet and sink burping. I have seen toilets expel their contents when flushed, only to flush the rest down! Why, you ask? Because the tank ventilation system was plugged! Those little plumbing vents on the roof play an important part in allowing the dirty water to go down the drain, and if it’s plugged with wasp nests, the drain becomes the vent! It’s kind of like the old PET milk cans or juice cans where you would use the can opener to punch a pour spout on one side and a vent on the other. If you didn’t open the vent hole, it would glug-glug and barely come out. Same principle here – the system needs to breathe.
Chris Dougherty, Certified RV Technician, posted this tip while he was serving as RVtravel.com’s technical editor.
Cold weather camping tip
The first thing I do before a cold weather RV trip is make sure the LP gas cylinders or LP gas tank is full, and the battery(s) is serviced and fully charged. The RV furnace will consume more LP gas and deplete the battery quicker than other appliances, so these simple preventive maintenance checks are essential. From Mark Polk, RV Education 101®
Saturday Giveaway!
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Not only will this multi-purpose device warn you of approaching extreme weather, but it can serve as backup power for your phone, plus it’s an AM/FM radio. Charge it with its own solar panel or hand crank or use a battery. And it’s even got its own flashlight. And that’s not all. Learn more.
How to win
We’ll select a winner at random out of all entries we receive today (October 30, 2021) by 7 p.m. Pacific time. Remember, you can only enter once and after we notify you by email via RVcontests@gmail.com that you won, you have 24 hours to respond or we’ll give the prize to someone else.
Resources
“RVs: Who Makes What” – This is a new free directory from RVtravel.com which lists every U.S. RV manufacturer and their makes and models. Learn more and/or download a free PDF copy.
Stolen RVs — Help us recover these stolen RVs. The more eyes we have searching for them, the better chance of getting them back to their rightful owners, and maybe putting the crooks who stole them in the slammer! See the stolen RVs.
Great websites. Check out our favorite websites of the day! We compiled a list of (almost) all the websites we’ve ever posted, and we update it weekly.
Where to complain about bad RVs, dealers, service, RV parks. This is an ever-expanding list of resources where you can report, share or discuss your problems with RV manufacturers or dealers.
Best Club for RVers: Escapees. Click here to learn more or join. Endorsed by RVtravel.com.
Directory of RV parks with storm shelters
In case you’re on the road with your RV and the weather report is showing a tornado headed your way, have this list handy.
RV Clubs
Check out our Directory of RV Clubs and Organizations.
What does financing an RV for 20 years REALLY mean?
In case you missed this article the first time around, here it is again. Important! Click here.
A sad story about how just touching an RV can kill you. We post this as a public service. Read this. And then be careful.
Stuck with a lemon RV? Contact Ron Burdge, America’s premier RV lemon law attorney.
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How many different makes and models of RVs are there in America? RVtravel.com has the answer in a new, free, comprehensive 105-page directory that lists every U.S. manufacturer and every brand and model it makes. “RVs: Who Makes What” is available free as a public service from RVtravel.com in PDF form. Learn more and/or download a free copy.
Ask Dave
Dave Solberg is a leading expert in the RV industry and author of the “RV Handbook” as well as the Managing Editor of the RV Repair Club.
Do I need supplemental brakes for my toad?
Dear Dave,
I have been advised that I do not need a supplemental braking system when towing my toad. What are your thoughts, please? —John
Other questions Dave answered this week:
• How do I check the drip tube on my Everchill fridge?
• Does trailer length matter when choosing a TPMS?
• We have an old woodbox-mounted TV. How do we upgrade it?
• Why does my RV’s toilet leak from the flush pedal?
• Why did my Blue Ox tow bar snap?
RV Gadgets and Gizmos
New $10k solar awning promises 1.2kW of power
People are all charged up about solar, but a company called Xponent Power may have one of the more unique solutions for solar in the RV industry – the Xpanse solar awning. It’s not just an awning powered by the sun, but an awning that captures the sun’s power and turns it into electricity for the RV to the tune of 1.2kW of solar power. Learn about it here. And if you’re interested, place your order today, October 30, and get $2,500 off!
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RVelectricity™
with Mike Sokol
Important 30-amp outlet voltage reminder
It seems like the number of emails I get about licensed electricians accidentally wiring 30-amp RV outlets for 2-pole 240 volts instead of 1-pole 120 volts is rapidly accelerating. Some of this is probably due to a huge influx of new RV buyers in the last year. And some is likely because RV owners want to use their RV trailer at home for an “outside” office or visitor’s bedroom. In any event, installing a dedicated 30- or 50-amp pedestal outlet on your house is a great idea. Just make sure your electrician wires it correctly. Find out how, and why, here.
This week’s J.A.M. (Just Ask Mike) Session
Can I charge my electric (EV) toad at a campground?
Dear Mike,
We’ve been anxiously following your GoGreenRV postings about EVs for towing (maybe a few years in the future) and EV toads (possibly sooner rather than later). So my husband and I are really thinking about some kind of small EV for towing behind our Class C RV. Do you have any info yet on possible candidates for an EV toad that can be towed 4-down? And what about charging them? Are any manufacturers designing them so your EV toad can be recharged while being towed? How about charging them at a campground? Can you simply plug an EV into a pedestal outlet overnight? Any info would be great! —Millie and Dan
RV Tire Safety
Tire air pressure, not the tire structure, supports the load
By Roger Marble
As part of a discussion on tire inflation and cold weather I spotted one special post. I’m publishing it here, with the permission of the author, Cushing Hamlen, who has a Ph.D. in engineering. He said his education translates into many, many classes in thermodynamics, including statistical thermodynamics, which is a real mind bender (conceptually and mathematically). Read what Dr. Hamlen said (in layman’s terms) about tire inflation supporting the load here.
RV Short Stop
Late Autumn Festivals offer fun-filled family RV Short Stops
By Julianne G. Crane
Only a few more weeks of late autumn festivals before your busy holiday season begins. With nature’s bursts of color fading rapidly as autumn leaves fall, it’s time to grab one last family getaway. Jump in your RV and head for the nearest harvest festival and a perfect RV Short Stop. Here are some excellent suggestions.
RV Fire Safety
Galley fire safety
In a compact galley, all combustibles – from paper towels to curtains – are apt to be closer to the stove, so use even more caution in your coach than you do at home. A box of baking soda – the ingredient in some powder extinguishers – can be used in lieu of a fire extinguisher for minor galley flare-ups.
Courtesy: Mac “The Fire Guy” McCoy
Recipe of the Day
Jack-O’-Lantern Cheese Ball
by Renee King from Battle Mountain, NV
This is a simple and cute Halloween cheese ball. We have had similar cheese balls but they’re coated with crushed cheese tortilla chips. Coating with finely shredded cheese is a much tastier method. It prevents the cheese ball from getting soggy. The only problem with this recipe is it’s so cute we didn’t want to eat it!
We wouldn’t want to eat this either… if it didn’t sound so good! Get the recipe.
Other recipes featured in this week’s Daily Tips Newsletters:
• Hearty Herb and Cabernet Beef Stew
• Cinnamon Chip Pumpkin Muffins
• Crock Pot Carmelized Onions, Beer & Cheese Bisque
• Mandarin Orange Strawberry Spinach Salad
• Halloween Crunch
Museum of the Week
American Writers Museum
Chicago, Illinois
If you find yourself in or near Chicago, it’s worth stopping for the American Writers Museum. There’s something here for every age group – from picture books to fiction novels. The interactive, immersive exhibits will delight any reader or writer. The museum hosts rotating temporary exhibits, but has many permanent exhibits too. You’ll step into the mind of a writer, a surprise bookshelf that delights all five senses, and a “word waterfall.” Learn more and plan your visit on the official museum website.
Readers’ Pet of the Day
“Bella is the best little love bug ever.” —Carl Patterson
Pets featured in this past week’s RV Daily Tips:
• Chai • Max • Dixie • Sam the bird and hungry pups • Nellie & Lucy
Vintage Postcard of the Week
Postcards owned by Colleen and Ed Weum, Pacific Northwest Postcard Club. Read more about their 90,000 postcard collection here.
Brain Teaser
There’s a red-eyed mummy among the others. Can you find it? Click the image to enlarge.
(Answer in tomorrow’s Sunday news newsletter. And please don’t spoil it for other readers by posting the answer in the comments.)
Do you have a brain teaser you think we should use? Send it to us here.
Trivia
Can you guess what the first fast food chain was in the U.S? If you guessed McDonald’s, Burger King or Dairy Queen, you’re wrong. It was White Castle! Walt A. Anderson, who had been running food stalls around the country at the time, and his partner, Edgar “Billy” Ingram, opened the first White Castle location in 1921 in Wichita, Kansas.
Word and Phrase Origins
From the book, Word and Phrase Origins by Robert Hendrickson:
cologne. “A scent that almost takes its name from a woman. The Roman emperor Claudius established a colony in what was then Oppidum Ubiorum in 50 A.D., renaming the place Colonia Agrippina (‘colony of Agrippina’) after his wife, Nero’s mother, who had been born there. This cumbersome name was later modified by the French to Cologne, which grew into the beautiful German cathedral city that we know today. Centuries later a resident Italian chemist, Johann Maria Farina, invented a perfume made with alcohol and aromatic citrus oils which was named eau de cologne or cologne water, for the city where he had settled in 1709. ‘Agrippina’ had been lost over the years and only a fragment of her colonia remained, but the perfume was unknowingly and obliquely named for her.”
Laugh of the Week
A few Halloween jokes to make you giggle:
How do French skeletons say hello?
Bone-jour!
Why didn’t the ghost dance at the Halloween party?
She had noBODY to dance with!
What product do witches use on their hair?
Scare spray!
Leave with a song from the past
Angel Baby by Rosie and the Originals
“Angel Baby” was a 1960 single by Rosie and the Originals. The song was recorded independently on a two-track machine in the small California farming community of San Marcos when lead singer Rosie Hamlin was only 15 years old. Initially unable to find a label because of its unpolished sound, the group convinced a San Diego department store to pipe their master through the listening booths in the record department. The response from listeners prompted Highland Records to sign the band. SOURCE: Wikipedia
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Chuck,
If you want to understand what Zuck is building read Ready Player One and Ready Player Two by Earnest Cline. If reading isn’t your thing Ready Player One is also a movie. Of course, the books are better.
I certainly wouldn’t trust zuck to create the Ready Player One metaverse. God help us.
FB is kind of like politics, Chuck: not really the realm of this newsletter.
Agreed. Unfortunately their politics is getting more noticeable. And I don’t think we need more campgrounds in federal land. I boondock so I don’t have neighbors with their noise and trash.
You missed the point – Rv Travel has a, or several, FB sites or forums or whatever they call them. So it most appropriate Chuck notifies the followers of this newsletter of their pending action. (An overdue action in my opinion!).
Rosie’s song was wonderful. Thank you.
I know you and I are in the same age group, Don. So you must know this version of Angle Baby is NOT the original. The original had a horrible sax solo – that made the song lovable to all us old farts. Why ‘they’ (whoever that was) thought it was a good idea to clean it up, have ruined the song for those of us who look forward to hearing that sax solo. I’ve read an account of how that solo came to be and why it was so bad. Great story. But I just DO NOT like the cleaned up version of the song.
LOL.. true, that sax solo was horrible. The guitar intro is also very strange.
I agree. From an old crumudgen, I don’t remember her being so . . . . . wow!
While I felt the comments were a bit mean and off-topic (for this newsletter, anyway) regarding Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg, I am glad to hear you are coming up with a non-Facebook forum. I have no desire to use Facebook and have missed out on many good information sources and discussions because I refuse to get a Facebook account. Now I can be involved in an RV Travel forum! Yay!
Well said, though I think Zuck deserves all the scorn he gets. It’s not like FB is a harmless standalone business you can use or ignore as you choose. When they cut you off from your hobbies, clubs, and networking with people, and have far more control over society than they should have, it’s time for all of us to step back and refuse to be corralled and surveilled just so one company and its squillionaire can make some bucks off ad sales.
The most sinister thing now is we are being groomed to think FB, Twitter, and the like must be censoring organizations, ‘to protect us from false news’ and to prevent non-corporate approved speech. Soon the only thing available will be the party-approved red koolaid or blue koolaid, with invisible FB algorithms silencing anyone who doesn’t fit in.
I did not intend to imply FB and Mark Zuckerberg are harmless. There is a reason I avoid Facebook (and will continue to avoid them). We can convey people’s wrong-doing without being mean or resorting to name calling. He and the company rightly deserved to be called out and stopped from doing what they are doing.
RV Travel, keep up the good work.
Honest question?
Are you going to continue to have rvtravel pages on FB?
Glad FB is out of rvtravel. Unfortunately it will continue to hurt us and the rest of the world.
Facebook is ok with me, seems like you’re shooting the messenger here. And “$70 billion dollars” is 70 billion dollars dollars.
About damn time!
So, I don’t worry as much about FB as others. My world is small, only family, friends and the groups I have signed up for (mostly travel/rv forums). I don’t see all the rhetoric that gets everyone so excited. I have sold furniture, a car and advertised a yard sale through FB marketplace. As far as Zuckerberg tracking my every move, the minute you login to the internet, its like “oh there she is”. Example: I went on Wayfair looking for a convertable loveseat and within 30 minutes every ad on every website I’ve been on has different convertable loveseats. Even here, I don’t see the same ads as the next person.
This is our society, we’ve allowed its progression into our lives and the only way to stop it is to unplug. This is why I don’t worry about internet or wifi at campgrounds. I enjoy the time off from the world.
I feel the same way~ Love connecting with far away family and friends. If someone is too political or hateful I unfollow them.
Likewise. And I never put anything personal on that I wouldn’t want the world to know – not that I think many would be interested anyhow.
👍👍 Chuck!
Amen! After being put in FB jail twice in 8 days I left and never looked back, they didn’t like my conservative view points. From the first time I looked at FB I said it was an electronic version of the old fashioned gossip fence.
Will RV Travel shut down the variety of Facebook groups that RV Travel owns?
A suggestion if you plan on leaving Facebook ~ Make a final entry for just family & friends, tell them what day you plan on disconnecting. Give it a 30 day window so your loved ones can cycle through and see your notice. I posted my email and phone/text info so we can still stay connected.
All governments needs to stay out of the climate change issue. When they get involved it will be a waste of taxpayer dollars. If governments were a charity no one would give as their operating costs are too high.
That’s opposite of reality. Insurance companies operate around 25% costs, while most governments run at costs (Medicare has a 3-5% operating cost – A LOT lower than private insurance). As for climate change, it’s not an issue, it is here. The ‘Government’ bails out those for profit companies all the time, which means WE bail them out – so if WE don’t demand our Government demand the Corporations to meet OUR demands, then there is little incentive to make changes.
Reminds me of a 50s song, Dream On, Dream On Teen Age Queen! If you’re buying all that crap about climate change then you haven’t lived long enough to witness climate change.
All – META = “Make Everything Trump Again” food for thought.
This has something to do with Facebook?
Wow. Tell us how you really feel!
What a surprise.
I think it’s a hoot that “meta” means “death” in Hebrew.
I have never had an FB account, and I never will. One reason, the Las Vegas Police Department Cyber Crimes Unit says FB is the #1 way people get their identity stolen.
Only depends on what info you choose to upload. No need to upload personal info just to stay in contact with family and friends or follow group pages.
Amen to ending Facebook page..! I deleted my account couple of years ago. It is evident Zuck and his companies are all about greed at any cost, regardless of the harm they do to society in general, and more specifically to our younger generations. My donation today to RVTravel is in direct acknowledgement of this decision alone. Cheers, E.R.E.S. Camper RV Rentals in Weston, FL