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Rory R
5 months ago

The bad decisions on closing CG’s, are being made by misinformed politicians. They seem to think that everyone in a RV is on vacation. There should be a group like the FMCA (or what it previously was) that would advocate for RV’ers so these asinine decisions won’t be made. FMCA is simply a marketing organization these days.

Phsmith
5 months ago

Be safe

Phsmith
5 months ago
Joe
5 months ago

Wow, a dumb decision by Virginia’s governor? Imagine that!

larryc
5 months ago

This is a good time for RVer to put their heads together and come up with a plan which can be guidelines for states to have an idea of how to manage situations such as now. Things such as dump stations, water supply, and overnight stay etc… also emergency situations– not everyone has a home base. We are now seeing our government at work and it is not at all a well thought out situation. This type of events will surely happen again and we need to have some suitable solution for those who don’t have a clue of this type of lifestyle.

Toni Calzone
5 months ago

I have two friends that have called for advise to get home. My advise is stay put till late May early June and when you do get home self quarantine for14 days. Make all your overnight reservations before you leave and make sure vehicles are serviced. If you need something done at home we will take care of it for you. More states will be closing borders shortly. You are assured if you do get sick you have care where you are. Breakdown on the road can be a trying time. some shops will not touch a vehicle for five days. Campgrounds need to protect their long term residents. Should an outbreak occur the entire facility risks being closed long term. VA stay at home is until June 10 from what i understand. States are not in a position right now to take on traveling cases. Rightfully so folks are looking at travelers coming thru or returning to stay at home states as carriers and causes to increase the stay at home time line. as for staying in hotels ask for a room that has not been stayed in for four days if you must travel. as rvers full or part time we need to be responsible travelers and not become part of a larger problem.

Ronnie Flake
5 months ago

During these trying times we go out almost everyday to take pictures of wildflowers. It’s relaxing and people get encouraged by seeing them. We take water and have no contact with anyone. It’s safe and we get to enjoy nature. We love Texas!

Judy
5 months ago

Interestingly… I posted a comment and now I can’t seem to see it anywhere…
Did it get removed because I mentioned “God”?

Ellen l
5 months ago
Reply to  Judy

Probably not. I’ve seen comments in previous editions and sections of this newsletter that mention God in one context or another.

If you don’t mind taking a bit of advice from someone who used to do tech support for a living — review what you did when you tried to post earlier, and try again.

Irv
5 months ago

The link to send the Virginia gov an email, asked for my zip code. That sends the email to people in my state–not Virginia.

I agree with other poster’s that ask why you’re traveling and won’t stay put for at least 14 days. Most people are eventually going to get infected–what they’re trying to do is flatten the curve so as to spread out emergency room visits over a longer period of time.

jillie
5 months ago

Michigan is now on the anti campsite band wagon but yet hotels are still an option. I did get ours fixed last week and it is again sitting on our driveway waiting to be towed to our favorite campsite. I totally agree. Sitting in your RV is much better then on a cruise ship or a hotel room. Good luck to those who tow or heading home. It is becoming a draconian state.

Deborah Font
5 months ago

Where are those unmanned RV stays along the interstate now? The ones you pull in and swipe your card for the night, we could really use them right about now. We are traveling from AZ to AL and although we like rest areas we could use a refill of water at one of those stops.

Steve
5 months ago

I remember you being an “on the road” publisher from Grass Valley when we were full timers in the 80s and 90s. Enjoyed you then and am pleased that you’ve succeeded to this day.

retired (cop)
5 months ago

Instead of telling us about the campground problem in the editors corner why don’t you send it to the governor to read so he will understand better?

Ellen l
5 months ago
Reply to  retired (cop)

That’s a great idea! How about we ALL tell our public *servants*, who WE elect into office, whose salaries WE pay, that RV campgrounds and public parks with RV sites are essential services that allow those of us who are full-timers to shelter in place in our own homes, rather than forcing us out onto the road?

And to be fair, those states that have enacted quarantine/shelter-in-place guidelines think that they *are* acting for the safety of the public. But they need input from us, on the ground and dealing with the situation, to get more nuance and better information.

You may have seen me post this in other articles, but it bears repeating; Escapees has a great resource, with all state representative information and even helpful suggested templates to use when mailing/calling them. It was a big help to me finding my state and federal representatives and in framing the emails I sent.

https://www.escapees.com/coronavirus/

Wallace Twigg
5 months ago

Don’t take your anger out on Virginia! You’re missing the point. STAY Home. Don’t travel from state to state. Stay where you are!!! Every time you gas up, every time you make a purchase, there is the risk of passing this virus on. We have NO experience with an event like this and there will be decisions made that on hind sight should have been done differently. The best way to protect yourself and the people you love is to STAY HOME

Alan Goldberg
5 months ago
Reply to  Wallace Twigg

Wallace if your home is an RV and you’re evicted from a campground how does “STAY HOME” apply? Not everything in this world is black and white.

Lawmakers are not considering the unintended effects of there short sited but well-intended knee jerk response to a very complicated problem.

Wolfe
5 months ago
Reply to  Alan Goldberg

I think you (all) may be muddying the issue. The intent is supposedly not to ban living in an RV, but to make you PARK it in place. You shouldn’t be “evicted” at all even under VA’s weird plan — just told to STAY whereever you are for longer, which should actually come out cheaper per night when on longer-term rates.

That said, I think campgrounds are going to catch a lot of undeserved flack for the incompetent actions of our “representatives” (ill-named, I know). To help keep the peace for campground owners, I plan to offer my security services for the bargain price of $5 a night. I will securely block anyone from parking in a designated site using my trailer as a blackade to any illegal camping. I also offer a $45 new customer discount for this overnight guard duty. I think if we ban together and blockade all the sites, we can stop this scourge of illegal campers flaunting the law…

Kenny
5 months ago
Reply to  Wallace Twigg

STAY AT HOME.
Nothing else needs to be said

Jim
5 months ago
Reply to  Wallace Twigg

Wallace, although I agree with you, you missed the point. It’s way safer to travel/sleep in an RV than it is to stay in hotels while traveling. Some folks dont have a sticks n bricks home. They are full time RVers. That’s the point. I definitely won’t be traveling anytime soon, but if I was a full timer, I wouldn’t really have a choice.

Walter Mycroft
5 months ago
Reply to  Wallace Twigg

You are missing the point. Why is it okay for people to travel and use a hotel but not a campground. If we are to agree with your position then close all of them, hotels and campgrounds. Picking on one is wrong.

Ray Zimmermann
5 months ago
Reply to  Wallace Twigg

Then if they are really serious, why didn’t they close the hotels?

Merl J Bell
5 months ago

Chuck, Your info in the editorial on campground closures in incorrect. Many states (Vermaint, PA, OR, and others) have closed all or some of the private campgrounds, or have restricted terms of usage. However, it should be noted that NY with the worst C-19 issue have maintained that the campgrounds are essential businesses. Go figure.

Ellen l
5 months ago
Reply to  Merl J Bell

Merl, some places are using those public campgrounds to house emergency personnel. Also, doesn’t it make sense to allow people in completely self-contained RVs to shelter in place without having to get back on the road, violating quarantining/shelter-in-place guidelines?

Steve flippo
5 months ago

Because his horse is named monday.

Ardy Mattox
5 months ago
Reply to  Steve flippo

bet you are right!

H.T. Pohlman
5 months ago

Governor Ralph “Black Face” Northam is typical of most politicians. They quickly make idiotic decisions but are slow to correct their mistakes which they rarely do. Northam is an *****!

Ellen l
5 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Pohlman

You’ll note that Andy’s article specifically says that it wasn’t Northam, though I agree he, along with many other governors, acted too hastily.

As Andy wrote: “ENTER THE HYSTERICAL POLITICIAN — no, not Governor Northam, although he deserves a measure of opprobrium for his role in this sorry mess. Rather, the problem arose with a Virginia delegate who reportedly heard from a friend that there were too many people crowding into the state’s campgrounds on the Eastern Shore. ”

So….blame the hysterical state delegate who didn’t even bother to check whether there were “too many people” in the campgrounds (many of which don’t even open for the season until May, BTW). And write your own state governor and representatives as well as Congressional reps to urge them to designate public RV sites essential services, so that those of us in our fully self-contained homes on wheels have some place to shelter in place that won’t bankrupt us. Escapees has details and very helpful information here:

https://www.escapees.com/coronavirus/

Remember, legislators are supposed to work for US. We elect them and pay them to listen to us. Let’s l et them know

Christine
5 months ago

That video is hilarious, and I did watch it several times! 😂😂😂

Unknown
5 months ago

States closing RV Parks are trying to keep everyone from traveling. As your friend said, he can have people stay for at least 2 weeks. A lot of States have a mandatory quarantine for anyone out of State. Everyone needs to sit still until this is over. I do not understand everyone getting mad over a mandatory 2 week stay. I have seen where the hotels are under the same rules.

askedsvp
5 months ago
Reply to  Unknown

‘ I do not understand ‘? that is your problem

askedsvp
5 months ago
Reply to  askedsvp

you forget the services provided.
also with the rest areas being closed there will be some who will start dumping black water into storm drains, streams etc.

larryc
5 months ago
Reply to  Unknown

14 days? its more like 2 months or more and it will probably be that way until the fuel prices go up. we are dealing with some major issues 1. being an unknown situation for which the best brains have not foreseen, 2. many are pushing all the environment climate silliness 3. no one has faith that rules for the day use of bath and shower areas at parks will be observed by overnight stays. but you can go fishing at the beach.

Ellen l
5 months ago
Reply to  larryc

larryc, could you clarify #2? I’m confused, what part does that play into letting people in RVs stay in public parks where they’re safer and at far less risk of being exposed/exposing others to the virus?

Gray
5 months ago

This whole CV-19 situation is like a bad 1980’s apocalypse movie, except I step outside the house and I’ve never seen or heard the streets so empty.

The state, county, and town anti-RV discrimination is no surprise. Not really. Nor are the apparent illogical closures. I’ve a long memory, and it’s pure human nature when faced with a poorly understood but deadly threat to lash out, to distrust, and to raise the barricades against any outside threat, including strangers. The Rule of FUD* will be with us for a long, long time.

(FUD=fear, uncertainty, doubt)

How long will this national nightmare last? Certainly more than weeks. Scan the commentary of the medical and epidemiological professionals. Those not locked in thrall to the national authority have said we will, on our present course, see a very slow decrease from peak case rates and deaths, and we’ll likely see a resurgence this fall when the virus surges back from the southern hemisphere. Estimates range from one year to three years before we have contained and eliminated the threat to a level where people can gather in groups to shop and work, without threat of infection. Or… until all of us have survived exposure and developed herd immunity. Seriously, it will take at least a year before a vaccine can be deployed nationwide. And then it must be deployed globally before anyone is truly safe. Unless we ground the flights and close the borders.

Until then, I expect no one will be allowed to travel domestically without a health authority issued pass certifying immunity and non-infection status, nor to work in a public or group setting without a similar work certification. Otherwise, travel across any border–state or national–will require a 14-day quarantine in a monitored location.

Yeh, a 1980s B-grade apocalypse movie. Except fleeing to the hills in the old motor home is no longer an option.

Tumbleweed
5 months ago
Reply to  Gray

Just as PLANNED, your scenario will be the globalists’ paradise. We need to fight it, not go along with it. If they achieve what you have outlined, the rules will NEVER be lifted. We’ll be living 1984.

Pixdal
5 months ago
Reply to  Gray

Just as the flu season is a season and returns each year, so this virus will do the same. The USA is in for months of shelter-in-place and travel restrictions because the virus has begun in highly populated areas and is moving from the coasts to the middle of the country–except as middle states had travelers who brought it in first. Nomads who depend upon public lands are finding closures–even for dispersed camping. These circumstances are not going to get better anytime soon. But it’s probably not in the general public’s morale interest to proclaim this.